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EITHER JESUS DIED BEFORE ASCENSION OR “ALLAH” HAS MADE MISTAKE AGAIN IN THE FOLLOWING VERSE THIS:

Nur el Masih Ben Haq

In the Quran, Surah 3:144

"And Muhammad is only an apostle; all the [other] apostles have passed away before him:..."

So, since Jesus came before Muhammad, either Jesus indeed died before ascension or “Allah” has made mistake again.

5 points

ARE THERE INCONSISTENCIES AND CONTRADICTIONS IN THE HOLY BIBLE?

By Nur el Masih Ben Haq

Unlike the Qur'an, the Bible did not come from one person. Pathetically, the Muslims mistakenly see the Bible as the Christian equivalent of their Qur'an. So, like I said earlier, they cite wrong parts of the Bible to prove that the Christian Word of God is contradictory.

Even then, logically, the seeming inconsistencies and contradictions in the Bible are what confirm its genuineness. Such parts of the Holy Bible were observations and writings of VARIOUS INDIVIDUALS and under VARIOUS CONDITIONS. Scientifically, such reports are subject to INDIVIDUALITY and CONDITIONALITY unless they are edited. Therefore, this existence of 'INDIVIDUALNESS' and 'CONDITIONALITY' is logically a strong proof that the individual Biblical account have never been edited; and are not fictions in which case they would have been identically written by all the collaborators, but are true and historical events writen independently by various individuals.

Example of CONDITIONALITY Mark (10:46-52) says that Jesus healed while LEAVING Jericho. But Luke (18:35-43) says while ENTERING Jericho. This, as a Western Reverend writer observes in his book, had been thought to be (as it is apparently) a sharp contradiction until the excavation of Earnest Sellen of the German Oriental Society (citing 'Archeology and Bible History page 295), when it was discovered that the Jericho of Jesus' time was a double city--Jewish (old) Jericho and Roman (modern) Jericho, such that LEAVING one could as well mean ENTERING the other.

Therefore both Mark and Luke are perfectly right. Their various versions were caused by the CONDITION of the then Jericho namely, its double-city nature.

Example of INDIVIDUALITY Because Mark and Luke (as in the case above) did not collaborate but rather independently wrote, INDIVIDUALITY became obvious in their judgments. Thus while one of them 'conservatorially' regarded regarded the original (Jewish) Jericho as the (actual) Jericho, the other 'modernly' regarded the administrative (Roman) Jericho as (currently) the Jericho.

Other Examples i. Mark (1:6) says, "John's food was ONLY locust and honey", while Mathew (11:18) says, "John came NEITHER eating nor drinking.

Here, while Mark considered the 'exact aspect' of John's feeding, Mathew on the other hand considered the 'comparative' or 'metaphorical' aspect .

ii. According to John (19:17) Jesus bore his cross up to the Golgotha. But according to Luke (23:26), one Simon was later on forced to carry the cross to follow Jesus. 'A clear contradiction!! ', Muslims would exclaim. But the fact is that the then Jerusalem was a large and walled city and Golgotha was a place just outside Jerusalem. Normally, Jesus most have bore his cross from the Pilate's Court to as far as outside the Jerusalem Wall and within the premises of the Golgotha before the Simon, who was not even an accused, was nevertheless forced to just take over form the apparently too fatigued Jesus to the exact crucifixion spot.

Therefore, while John ignored the 'negligible' contribution of Simon, Luke on the other hand, recognized it, perhaps for historical record.

Naturally, 'INDIVIDUALITY' and 'CONDITIONALITY' variously manifest any time a historical event is independently reported by different individuals and or when there is a difference of condition.

These types of situations are what Muslims simplistically referred to as contradictions in the Bible.

iii. Matthew 20:29-34 says two blind persons, Mark 10:46 and Luke 18:35-38 say one blind person.

It just means that there were two blind persons. One is active in asking Jesus, the other was barely involved. So, while Mark and Luke ignore the “insignificant” involvement of the reluctant blind man, Matthew felt it was important to acknowledge his inconsequential involvement. In other words, while Mark and Luke recognize only active presence, Matthew acknowledges non active presence. This was because there was no collaboration. Each of them wrote independently with different emphasis and different intended message. If the event was fictitious, the versions would have collaboratively looked very identical.

It should be noted, however, that the contradictions and inconsistencies in the Qur'an can not be explained in terms of 'CONDITIONALTY' and 'INDIVIDUALITY' because the Qur'an as a whole was supposedly uttered by one person (God). Of course if there exist contradictions in the direct words of God in the Bible, they likewise can not be explained in that ways. But there is non in actual sense.

Contradictions or Lazy and Mischievous Scholarship

Being the oldest surviving book in the World, contemporary intervening factors need to be taken into account when dealing with apparent inconsistencies in the Bible.

A Cambridge University scientist, Professor Colins Humphreys tackled the biblical seeming inconsistency in which while Matthew, Mark and Luke all say the Last Super coincided with the start of Jewish feast of Passover, John implies it was before Passover.( http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110418/wl_uk_afp/britainreligionchristianseaster) )

The scientist believes it was due to a calendar mix-up between the one (a conservative Jewish calendar) used by Jesus – along with Matthew, Mark and Luke on one hand and the one (official lunar calendar) used by John on the other.

Professor Humphreys, who used a combination of biblical, historical and astronomical research, then noted, "Many biblical scholars say that, for this reason, you can't trust the Gospels at all. But if we use science and the Gospels hand in hand, we can actually prove that there was no contradiction."

Other claims of contradictions in the Bible are mere mischief of the Muslims and their paid agents, the normally greedy, materialistic and corrupt Western atheists.

May the Almighty Yahweh open the eyes.

Nur360Masih(11) Clarified
2 points

It matters because it questions the credibility of the Quran.

Nur360Masih(11) Clarified
1 point

Muslims should not see Christ's human disposition as a proof of his being really human.

2 points

IT IS CUSTOMARY FOR SPIRITUAL BEINGS TO ASSUME HUMAN NATURE WHEN ON MISSION TO HUMAN BEINGS.

Nur el Masih Ben Haq

Says Allah according to Qur'an 6:9, "Had We appointed an ANGEL our messenger, We ASSUREDLY had made him LIKE A MAN SO THAT HE MIGHT SPEAK TO (associate with) MEN....."

So, Muslims should understand the INCARNATION of Jesus.

2 points

WHY DOES THE KORAN APPEAR CONFUSED AND INCONCLUSIVE ABOUT THE NATURE OF JESUS?

By Nur el Masih Ben Haq

The Koran (19:30-35) reported Jesus prophesying blessings on him on:

i. The day of his birth

ii. The day of his DEATH and

iii. The day of his resurrection

Similarly, Allah is reported in the Koran (3:55) to have said that He would:

i. Make Jesus to DIE and then

ii. Take him up unto Himself

But another verse in the Koran (4:158) says Allah took Jesus up onto Himself without Jesus dying first.

Perhaps, as a way out of this embarrassing contradiction, Muslims probably fabricated or adopted from Christians, the idea of the Second Coming of Jesus and modified it to mean he would come back to: Marry, bear children, die naturally and be raised from the dead at the end of time like every one.

But some Islamic Scholars reject these Hadiths of Jesus’ Second Coming because as big as the revelation is, it is not traceable to any verse of the Koran. “ If it was actually Allah who foretold it, why is it not even slightly in the Koran?; And would that not affect the ‘SEAL OF THE PROPHET ‘ status of Prophet Muhammad? etc etc etc “ So why all these confusions?

2 points

THE CHIEF AUTHORITY ON THE QUR’AN, PROPHET MUHAMMAD, CLAIMED THAT THE LIGHT WAS CREATED ON WEDNESDAY AFTER THE CREATION OF THE MOUNTAINS AND TRESS etc (AN OBVIOUS BLUNDERS!!!).

Nur el Masih Ben Haq

Sahih Muslim, Chapter MCLV, The beginning of creation and the creation of Adam, Hadith No. 6707:

Abu Huraira reported that Allah's Messenger (mpbuh) took hold of my hands and said: Allah the Exalted and Glorious, created the clay on Saturday and He created the mountains on Sunday and He created the trees on Monday and He created the things entailing labour on Tuesday and created light on Wednesday and He caused animals to spread on Thursday and created Adam (pbuh) after 'Asr on Friday; the last creation at the last hour of the hours of Friday, ie. Between afternoon and night.

Ambiguities.

On the other hand:

THE SUN IS THE SOURCE OF THE FIRST LIGHT ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE

Contrary to what liars like Dr. Bucaille said, the Bible has clearly and correctly stated that the sun is the source of the first light (which separate the day from the night)

According to the Bible (GENESIS CHAPTER 1):

Then God said, “Let their be light”; and there was light. (V 3-4)

God saw that the light was good: and God SEPERATED the light from darkness ( V 4 ).

God called the light day, and the darkness He called night. And there was evening and there was morning, day one ( V 5 ).

{Verse 14 explicitly confirms that the light referred to here actually came from the Sun ( and stars ) that God had earlier created (as we will see later)}.

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Then God said, “Let there be lights in the expance of the heavens to SEPARATE the DAY from the NIGTH, and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years ( 14 ).

God made the two great lights, the greater light to govern the day, and the lesser light to govern the night; He made the stars also….and to SEPARATE the LIGHT from DARKNESS…Day Four( 14-19 ).

( Here the Bible has made it clear that the hitherto young stars--and specifically the Sun--were the source of the ‘FIRST lights’ meant for SEPARATING the DAY from the NIGHT and the DARKNESS from the LIGHT referred to in verses 4 and 5 ).

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MUSLIMS, DO YOU KNOW WHY PROPHET MUHAMMAD ADMITTED NOT KNOWING WHO THE HOLY SPIRIT IS (Quran 17:85)? DO YOU KNOW WHY HE SAID ONLY ALLAH KWOWS WHO THE HOLY SPIRIT IS? BELOW IS THE ANSWER:

  By Nur el Masih Ben Haq

 

Baqara

002.253 “Those apostles We endowed with gifts, some above others: to one of them God spoke; others He raised to degrees (of honor); to Jesus the son of Mary We gave clear (Signs), and strengthened him with the Holy Spirit.................”

So, the Holy Spirit given to Jesus was an EXCLUSIVE one. In fact according to a Hadith,

Al-Baqara

002.087 “We gave Moses the Book and followed him up with a succession of apostles; We gave Jesus the son of Mary Clear (Signs) and strengthened him with the Holy Spirit.......”

Again, the Holy Spirit given to Jesus was a unique one.

 

Nahl

016.102 Say, the Holy Spirit has brought the revelation from thy Lord in Truth, in order to strengthen those who believe, and as a Guide and Glad Tidings to Muslims.

Al-Ma’ida

005.110 “Then will God say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Recount My favour to thee and to thy mother. Behold! I strengthened thee with the Holy Spirit, so that thou didst speak to the people in childhood and in maturity........”

Again the Holy Spirit is clearly NOT Angel Gabriel.

Al-Naba

078.038 “The Day that the Spirit and the angels will stand forth in ranks, none shall speak except any who is permitted by (God) Most Gracious, and He will say what is right.”

Again, the Qur’an said “The Spirit and the angels” So the Spirit is different from the angels.

 

Al-Ma’arij

070.004 “The angels and the spirit ascend unto him in a Day the measure whereof is (as) fifty thousand years.”

Again, The Spirit is Quranically not referring to any angel.

 

Al-Qadr

097.004 “Therein come down the angels and the Spirit by God's permission, on every errand.”

So, we can see that the Spirit is NOT an angel.

An-Nisa

004.171 “...Christ Jesus the son of Mary was... a Messenger of God, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a Spirit proceeding from Him....”

 

Al-Mujadilah

058.022 “....For such He has written Faith in their hearts, and strengthened them with a spirit from Himself.....”

Al-Anbiya

021.091 “And (remember) her who guarded her chastity: We breathed into her of Our spirit, and We made her and her son a sign for all peoples.”

Obviously Allah did not breath angel Gabriel (jibril) into Mary.

 

 

The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) prayed to Allah to strengthen the famous poet Hassan ibn Thabit with the Holy Spirit in composing poems in defense of Islam: “O Allah! Strengthen him with the Holy Spirit.” (Reported by al-Bukhari)

 

The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) later on said about Hassan: “Verily Allah, the Glorious and Mighty, is strengthening Hassan with the Holy Spirit.” (Reported by at-Tirmidhi and Ahmad) “The Holy Spirit is with Hassan in his work!” (Reported by Abu Dawud)

 

  

If the Holy Spirit referred to in the Qur’an means Angel Gabriel, why then has the Qur’an distinguished between THE ANGELS and THE SPIRIT?

The Qur’an categorically says:

(a) The ANGELS ( that is, inclusive of Angel Gabriel ) and

(b) The SPIRIT ( that is, in addition to Gabriel and his fellow Angels )

Al-Naba

078.038 The Day that THE SPIRIT and THE ANGELS will stand forth in ranks, none shall speak except any who is permitted by (God) Most Gracious, and He will say what is right.

Al-Ma’arij

070.004 THE ANGELS and THE SPIRIT ascend unto him in a Day the measure whereof is (as) fifty thousand years:

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EVEN ISLAMICALLY ONLY JESUS IS SINLESS SINCE BIRTH

ACCORDING TO SAHIHS, AT BIRTH ONLY JESUS & HIS MOTHER ARE IMMUNNED FROM SATAN

By Nur el Masih ben Haq

Sahih Muslim, Book 030, No 5837

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: No child is born but he is pricked by the satan and he begins to weep because of the PRICKING OF THE SATAN EXCEPT THE SON OF MARY AND HIS MOTHER….”

Sahih Muslim, Book 030, No 5838

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The satan touches every son of Adam on the day when his mother gives birth to him WITH THE EXCEPTION OF MARY AND HER SON

Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 55, No 641

Narrated Said bin Al-Musaiyab:

Abu Huraira said, "I heard Allah's Apostle saying, 'There is none born among the off-spring of Adam, but Satan touches it. A child therefore, cries loudly at the time of birth because of the TOUCH OF SATAN, EXCEPT MARY AND HER CHILD." Then Abu Huraira recited: "And I seek refuge with You for her and for her offspring from the outcast Satan"

Sahih Bukhari 4.506:

Narrated Abu Huraira:The Prophet said, "When any human being is born. Satan touches him at both sides of the body with his two fingers, EXCEPT JESUS SON OF MARY, whom Satan tried to touch but failed, for he touched the placenta-cover instead.

Qur'an 19:19

"He (Archangel Gabriel) said (to Mary): I am only a messenger of thy Lord, that I may bestow on thee a faultless son" (Qur'an 19:19). The Hadith (traditions of Islam) also says that all the children of Adam are touched by Satan at their birth, except Jesus, son of Mary.

2 points

CHRIST’S DIVINITY: The Inference from Adam

Nur el Masih Ben Haq

Muslims are fond of saying that it was not only Jesus that had spirit (ruh) from God; that Adam too got his spirit directly from God. Why was Adam not more than an ordinary human being etc?

The Original Adam was not Ordinary. He Was Likened to Jesus ln Some Ways

The Holy Bible reveals relationship between Adam and Jesus thus, "The FIRST Adam became a LIVING SOUL, the LAST Adam (Jesus) a QUICKENING SPIRIT", 1 Cor. 15:45. Therefore, to understand the nature of Jesus more, we must go back to the Adam's case.

Understanding Jesus from the Nature of Adam

As Muslims observe, Adam too got his ruh directly from God. But the important question Muslims fail to ask themselves is “When God breathed His Ruh into Adam what then followed? Was that followed by an unusual recognition or not? Let us see:

Allah’s Instruction: Allah commanded his angels that once he breathes (something of) his spirit (ruh) into Adam all of them should honor Adam with prostration, which is an act of ibadah that is Islamically reserved for Allah alone. In fact, the reason why Allah coursed Iblis to became Satan was his refusal to prostrate to Adam as instructed by Allah himself.

QUR’AN 15:28-31

Your Lord said to the angels, "I am about to create a man from aged mud, like the potter's clay.

"Once I perfect him, and blow into him from My spirit, you shall fall prostrate before him."

The angels fell prostrate; all of them,

except Iblis (Satan). He refused to be with the prostrators

He said, "O Iblis (Satan), why are you not with the prostrators?"

He said, "I am not to prostrate before a human being, whom You created from aged mud, like the potter's clay."

He said, "Therefore, you must get out; you are banished.

"You have incurred My condemnation until the Day of Judgment."

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QUR’AN 2:34

When we said to the angels, "Fall prostrate before Adam," they fell prostrate, except Satan; he refused, was too arrogant, and a disbeliever.

QUR’AN 17:61-62

When we said to the angels, "Fall prostrate before Adam," they fell prostrate, except Satan. He said, "Shall I prostrate to one You created from mud?"

He said, "Since You have honored him over me, if You respite me till the Day of Resurrection, I will possess all his descendants, except a few."

QUR’AN 7:11-12

And We created you then fashioned you, then told the angels: Fall ye prostrate before Adam! And they fell prostrate, all save Iblis, who was not of those who make prostration.

He said: What hindered thee that thou didst not fall prostrate when I bade thee ? (Iblis) said: I am better than him. Thou createdst me of fire while him Thou didst create of mud.

These Concur With the Bible

BIBLE (HEB.) 1:6

But when he (God) again brings his firstborn (Adam) into the world, he says, “Let all the angels of God worship him!”

The Apocryphal Jewish Source Also Concurs

Apocryphal (The Life of Adam and Eve) 141:143

“ Then Michael (Angel Jibril) came; he summoned all the troops of angels and told them, "Bow down before the likeness and the image of the divinity." And then, when Michael summoned them and all had bowed down to you, he summoned me [Satan] also. And I told him, "Go away from me, for I shall not bow down to him who is younger than me; indeed, I am master prior to him and it is proper for him to bow down to me. ”

Allah Also Declares Adam as His Deputy on Earth on Earth (Qur’an 2:30). And what many Muslims don’t know, like it is in Christianity (Gen. 2:7), Islamically:

ALLAH CREATED ADAM IN HIS OWN IMAGE (Surah)

Al-Bukhaari (6227)

Narrated from Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Allah created Adam in His image, and he was sixty cubits tall. When he created him….”

Muslim (2612)

Narrated that Abu Hurayrah said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "When any one of fights his brother, let him avoid the face, for Allah created Adam in His image."

Ibn Abi 'Aasim, al-Sunnah (517)

Ibn Abi 'Aasim narrated in al-Sunnah (517) that Ibn 'Umar said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Do not say 'May Allah deform your face' for the son of Adam was created in the image of the Most Merciful."……..

Ibn Abi 'Aasim, (516)

Ibn Abi 'Aasim also narrated (516) that Abu Hurayrah said: The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "When any one of you fights let him avoid the face, for Allaah created Adam in the image of His Face."

Logical Conclusion

Therefore, Biblically and Qur'anically Adam, whose flesh was made from just the sand (Gen. 2:7, Qur'an 28:72), was notwithstanding such GLORIOUS initially. And, logically, the glorious qualification came from what God breathed in him (something of God’s spirit).

Jesus

Jesus is Ruh’Allah (Spirit or Soul of God) and his Word: John 1:1, 14:8:23, Phl. 2:5-8; and the Qur'an 4:171, 2:252 etc; Jesus is PERFECT IMAGE of God (Heb. 1:1-3); the woman scheduled to born him had to be promoted above ALL THE WOMEN OF THE WORLD: See Luke 1:28, 30:34, 41-44, 48-49, and 54-55. Also says Qur'an 3:42, “O Mary! Allah has CHOSEN thee, and PURIFIED thee, and PREFERRED thee ABOVE ALL THE WOMEN OF CREATION."

Final Logical Comparison

However, Adam did not pass Satanic test but sinned (that shows some relative weakness in him), thereby lost his INITIAL STATUS and therefore he was ordered out of MOST EXALTED DWELLING, the Garden of Eden(Qur'an 7:19-24, Gen. 3:1-24). But Jesus passed all the Satanic tests (Mt.4:1-11, Heb. 4:15; Qur'an 19:19; 3: 46; 6: 86;), which logically implies comparative superiority of the Divine Spirit in him (Jesus).

Therefore, the fact that SOIL is the comparative parent of Adam, who, again, could not pass Satanic test, sinned and was demoted; and Mary, the SUPERIOR among all women (Luke 1:28, 30:34, 41-44, 48-49, 54-55. and Qur'an 3:42), is the comparative parent of Jesus, who again, passed all the Satanic tests, did not sin and therefore was NEVER demoted; given that both Adam and Jesus got their souls from God directly; it follows that whatever type of soul God gave Adam was originally INFERIOR to the one He gave Jesus. Thus Jesus would still have been superior to Adam even if he (Adam) had been able to defend his INITIAL STATUS, (and thus Jesus was, by the way, very superior to the demoted Adam, and extremely superior to the descendants of Adam).

Divinity of Jesus Logically Proved

So if initially Adam, made from soil, was inter-alia, QUALIFIED to be God's IMAGE/LIKENESS or GOD's VICEROY and WORTHY OF A WORSHIP BY THE ANGELS OF GOD, all because his soul was God-breathed, then Jesus, who has much greater of these qualifications is logically divine.

That was why when Jesus was asked to disclose God he said, "Have I been with you so long and yet you do not know me...? He who has seen me has seen the Father (God); how can you say, 'show us the Father?..I do not speak on my (the human) authority, but the Father who DWELLS IN ME DOES HIS WORKS", John 14:8-10.

And, that is why when Jesus accomplished his mission on the Earth, he went back to where he came from, Qur'an 4:158, "God has raised him up unto HIMSELF". See also John 6:28, 62, and Mk. 16:19. John 8:23.

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