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RuSure(9) Clarified
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Well seeing that you do believe in God, you should chose your words very carefully next time and please don't make controversial statements to draw an argument and you won't be taken on by the wrong people who should be standing with you instead of opposing you.

Sorry that you feel so offended but I was thought by BIBLE STUDY by Paul the Apostle, let them be an Anathema Maranatha who chooses to deny Christ.

Sorry but no offense, one can never befriend the world but one should try by any means to gain them and not to bring confusion the your own camp.......

RuSure(9) Clarified
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Thanks for your compliment but the fact of the matter is that science denies God and I know that I just proved that nothing can just explode, happen by chance and be ever so perfect as it is.

And just by the way, I believe that by God's grace that I explained that God does exist WITHOUT using the BIBLE as you requested.

I'm actually thinking of writing another book, in line of my posting but with greater detail.

RuSure(9) Clarified
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Now after reading my post, I want you to proove in light of that which I wrote that there is no God according to you...

RuSure(9) Clarified
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Your request is quite admirable.

You must follow everything I wrote diligently otherwise you will lose me close to the end. I pray that God gives you the revelation on this subject.

So here we go...

You asked:"Now i have challenge for you.

Ready? Prove without the use of holy scriptures that a god any god will do exists".

I will try my absolute best to do this and I commend you on your genuine Spirit at heart...

I'm sure that I can use you as an example right.

Now I know that you don't know me and that I don't know you from a bar of soap but it is remarkable how we as humans yearn for the truth.

When you were small, very small, in fact microscopically small. Two became one. Two sells that came from two totally different backgrounds, homes bloodlines and sometimes even cultures got together at conception.

A miracle happened as the two fused together and became one single living sell.

Who did that? Mom or dad?

Who divided this one perfect sell into two, four, eight, sixteen, thirty two etc. etc. etc...

Every time they divided they became more perfect until one day your feet, hands, organs, arms, legs and everything was formed just right.

Then the most amaizing thing happened. Finally the sells that was covering your eyes, split and in the innermost parts a life was unveiled and the final organ in your body became perfect and the bonus is that you received your sight...

You were now perfect and it was time...

This is only on the surface that I'm touching now because your eyes are one of the most scientifically advances devices known to man. On the back of your eye there is a place about the size smaller the head of a needle that is the contact point for about 1 000 000 nerves that comes together and it gives you the ability to separate light from darkness. It makes your eyes move and your eyelids blink whenever they have to. Even in the event that something comes to close to your eyeball and this happens so fast that you only become aware of it when it is over...

You discern colours, depth, size, shape, speed, beauty, danger, direction, and everything which is good and bad in life.

Here is the sad part about your eyes...

Because you see good, you don't recognise from where it comes and because you see bad, you utterly refuse to see the good in things and life. This is true for every human being and also to life.

What you see, you will focus on and whatever you focus on you will perceive. What you Perceive is what you choose to meditate one and what you meditate on is what you become.......

What do you choose to see?

What do you meditate on?

What do you want to become?

What are you doing in life?

What are you living for?

What are you standing for?

Nothing other than God has got the ability to create something like a humanbeing.

It is sad to say that science tries to imitate God by creating life but all they are able to do is to take something which is ment to be perfect and they are changing it into an abomination. Animals with two heads, mixed creatures (half dog half human and crap like that) and so on.

The question why God allow it?

There is a saying that I learned to be the truth and yes it is in the BIBLE. The saying goes "be not deceived, God is not mocked. Whatsoever man soweth, he shall reap". And that is why humans even are born with deformity because God will not be messed with.

I'm sure that this would service but let me use another example in creation...

At what speed does the sun travel through space?

The velocity of the sun is ± 220 km/s.

Is this fast?

How much does the sun weigh?

1.9891×10to the power of thirty 30 to get the weight in kg's.

Is this heavy?

It only weighs:

1'98'910'000'000'000'000'000'000'000'000'000'000 kg.

333,000 × the weight of the Earth... That's all.

Now if this is nothing...

How far does the earth travel in one lunar cycle?

One cycle is one around the sun in the year is HOW FAR IN DISTANCE and the earth travels at 30 km/s (108,000 km/h), which is fast enough to cover the oplanet's diameter (about 12,700 km) in seven minutes. If this is not enough to convince you, the earth spins around its axle tilted at 7 degrees and it is spinning at a speed of 1038 miles per hour at the equator.

See this...

The earth spins at a speed of 1600 km/s around its own axes and it takes the earth 1 day to accomplish this.

Now you do the math.

60 Seconds in one minute.

60 minutes in one hour.

24 hours in a day.

One day = how many seconds? The answer 86'400 x 1600 km = ? Me, I cannot do that math...

So the earth not only spins but the moon that weighs about 81 billion tons is orbiting the earth once in 29 days I think (one lunar cycle).

The distance between the moon and the earth is about 384 000 km away.

If you have a rope that is 1m long and you rotate once, the distance the rope travels to make one revolution is = to about 6,2m

The radius of the earth is about 4035.333 meter plus the distance of the earth = 388'035,333.

Now if the the rope in your hand is 388'035,333m and you are travelling at a speed well over 3'880'353'330km in one month (lunar cycle) then you better hope that there is a clear cut path before you.

NOW if the earth and the moon is doing this, travelling about 586,920,000 miles around the sun in a year at a speed of 108'000km/s.

I thank God that for the past 37 years of my life He kept making a way for the earth to orbit the sun at this speed while we spin at 1'600km/second.

If you in anyway could grasp what I'm talking about...

I would be getting on my knees tonight, praying to this very same God, thanking Him for making a way for you to travel His galaxy; Let alone all the other things that He does for you every day.

The worst part of it all is that up and till today, You denied His very existence...

Repent and except Him as your personal Lord and Saviour today.

His name is Jesus...

From:

Evangelist Cornelius H. Müller.

Contact me on:

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+27 81 852 3322.

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Galatians 6:2 (KJV).

2. Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.

Luke 22:32 (KJV).

32. But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.

Never hesitate, to reply...

Ο ΘΕΌΣ ΝΑ ΣΑΣ ΕΥΛΟΓΕΊ ...

(O THEÓS NA SAS EV̱LOGEÍ) ...

GOD BLESS YOU....

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in todays world everything needs proof

if god created us where's da proof????????????

If man created God, who made that lovely little baby on your profile pick? Did your husband do it? Did you do it?

Are you sure...?! GENUINE...!!!

Did your husband use a scissors to cut the two sells in two after they became ONE? Two complete sells became one right? So after becoming one he cut the one into two identical sells and both remained whole and not two halves or one sell that was destroyed. Right...?

Or did you do that?

And either one of you's did this until the was just enough sells like there should have been according to your baby was genetically structured 100% perfect.

Do you really think that you or your husband has the ability to perform such miraculous wonders.

So how did you and your husband get it right?!

Common, out with it... Why don't you share with us your secret on evolution because I'm very sure that the most brilliant minds in the scientific world would pay you billions to know!!!

Do you want proof that there is a God out there?

DO YOU REALLY?!!!

Can I proove it to you by just asking you only one question.......?

Ready?

Do you own a mirror?

Romans 10:1-10 (KJV).

1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. 2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. 3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. 4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. 5 For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them. 6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:) 7 Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.) 8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

You should never doubt that there is a God.

The voice of creation is shouting to you through God's perfection and grace.

The only question is, will you listen to its voice and change your mind...?

God loves you so much that He made His Son come to earth so that those who believe that seeing is believing would accept Him but the sad story is that they did not so they crusified Jesus and God's plan became manifest so that Jesus payed the price once and for all so that you don't have to pay for your own sins.

All you have to do is to confess with your mouth and believe with your heart that Jesus is the Son of God that came to earth to die so that you can Live.

Now change your mind and confess Him and live.

1 John 1:8-10 (KJV).

8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

Deuteronomy 30:19-20 (KJV).

19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live: 20 That thou mayest love the Lord thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the Lord sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.

For the rest of your questions you can mail me...

From:

Evangelist Cornelius H. Müller.

Contact me on:

[email protected]

or

+27 81 852 3322.

+27 74 585 3311.

Fax2 E-mail:

+2786-571-4054.

Galatians 6:2 (KJV).

2. Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.

Luke 22:32 (KJV).

32. But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.

Never hesitate, to reply...

Ο ΘΕΌΣ ΝΑ ΣΑΣ ΕΥΛΟΓΕΊ ...

(O THEÓS NA SAS EV̱LOGEÍ) ...

GOD BLESS YOU....

RuSure(9) Clarified
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Here is an interesting question... for those who believe God was once a man (I know you're out there!)

If God was once a man, and the God of that man was once a man, who was the first man to become a God?

Come and let us analyse this for a moment because I know that this is not what you ment to say...

At first you said and I quote "for those who believe God was once a man (I know you're out there!)".

Ok so here I am...

First of all God was never a man before He became God.

That is what your statement is saying right...

"for those who believe God was once a man"...

God created man in His image and in His likeness and that also proves that God existed before man. In actual fact God created the heavens, the earth, day, night, separated seas from land, all the plants etc. the sun moon and stars, the birds the fish and everything in the seas, all the animals and on the final day that He actually worked (the sixth day) He created man in His likeness and image.

Now this shouldn't be a shock to you.

There was only one incident where God took upon Himself the form of man.

Why would a God do this?

Here is something I wrote in another post here on CreateDebate and I trust that this would be the beginning of a new ideology if you could grasp it...

[And you did not believe because you cannot see God].

So God had a plan:

John 3:16 So this God sent His only son for mankind to see because man claims that seeing is believing and He died for you all men so that they may be saved and live with Him forever after time is fulfilled because He LOVES YOU SO MUCH.

He is the author and the finisher of your faith (Heb. 12:2) if you will allow Him.

All that you have to do:

Romans10:8-10 (KJV).

8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Take a step of faith:

Romans 12:3 (KJV).

3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.

[this faith is just enough for you to accept Him]

2 Corinthians 10:15 (KJV).

15 Not boasting of things without our measure, that is, of other men's labours; but having hope, when your faith is increased, that we shall be enlarged by you according to our rule abundantly.

[your faith will grow]

Ephesians 4:13 (KJV).

13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ.

It was predestinated by God for you to read this and the question to you is this... Do you accept Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Saviour...?

Before you answer this I have one last scripture for you...

Deuteronomy 30:19 (KJV).

19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live.

It will not be easy. Do not let anybody lie to you.

The BIBLE doesn't call it the narrow road for nothing...

From:

Evangelist Cornelius H. Müller.

Contact me on:

[email protected]

or

+27 81 852 3322.

+27 74 585 3311.

Fax2 E-mail:

+2786-571-4054.

Galatians 6:2 (KJV).

2. Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.

Luke 22:32 (KJV).

32. But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.

Never hesitate, to reply...

Ο ΘΕΌΣ ΝΑ ΣΑΣ ΕΥΛΟΓΕΊ ...

(O THEÓS NA SAS EV̱LOGEÍ) ...

GOD BLESS YOU....

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Let us analyse this quickly...

Your very first statement:

1.) You make your whole argument look stupid.

The BIBLE has got one verse for this (actually way more)...

Psalms 14:1 (KJV).

1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

2.) The quote is "Did god create man, or did man create god" "Did man create god" IS NOT the literal definition as "God create man", it means men invented god in their mind. There is no god, billions of people believed in different gods.

The emphasises is not on a mindset but on the word create. The word create literally means to make SOMETHING from NOTHING. The word make defines the action of taking SOMETHING and turning it into SOMETHING ELLS. So this idea of create being the very concept of God is flawed in itself.

However I must admit that before something can be created, there must be an idea or a concept.

Including the idea of trying to proove that there is no God. The reason for people making believe that there is no God is purely because of the fact that they want to rule their own world and will not bow to the need to be obedient or subjected to a Higher Power such as a God.

There is a saying that goes that you are a slave of the one whom you subject yourself to.

Now this is very true when you think about this logically, isn't it...?!

Now I ask you this, do you work? Whose slave are you?

Repeat it after me..."My Bosses Slave I am".

Now imagine that...

3.) Gods are a children's explanation for things they can't understand.

This is very true come to think about it. Do you know why children accept God WAY easier than you? Because there minds are not polluted.

» Things that pollute our minds are things like:

Un forgiveness.

Bitterness.

Oppressed childhood.

I'm pretty sure that a persons history speaks volumes,... don't you think.

Romans 12:1-2 (KJV).

1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. 2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

4.) If there is god, who created god?

God means supreme and if you are supreme then you are the first and the last, the beginning and the end and also the author of faith.

The first and the last beginning and the end...

Revelation 22:13 (KJV).

13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

The author and the finisher of your faith...

Hebrew 12:2 (KJV).

2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

No other "so called god" ever made these statements...

Amassing isn't it?!

5.) Who created god's creator?

The term God is associated with creator because that is what even you would agree to, am I correct?

That is why God is the source of everything and nothing came to be without His will and purpose. God does not need man but man needs God in order to exist. If you proclaim that you do not need God, then it is as good as you saying that as fallible as you are as man, you are superior to He who holds everything together.

Look up the word Laminin and you will see what I meen.

In the deepest reaches of space there is a galaxy called the sumbrero galaxy in in the middle of it there is a black hole and inside this black hole there is something called the x-structure... look it up.

6.) The idea of god is not logical, its just an idea, a business, a lie to explain things you dint know.

The only lie is the fact that you are not willing to try it for yourself because you are to afraid to admit that you were wrong all along.

Look at a rose and you see the perfection.

Look at the sky, how beautiful it is and you will see a canvas that is not only beautiful but ever changing and pure.

Look at the human eye and you will be marvelled at the fact that there are about 1 000 000 nerve endings in it. Who could have joined them together I wonder?

Look at a children when they is born. How pure, how innocent, how caring, how loving and how fragile they are. Isn't it sad to think what happened to that very same child when grown-up.......

Creation is perfect until man inter fears and it has got the loudest voice, shouting from all directions to us as humans the Vrase, "CAN YOU NOT SEE THE MANIFESTATION OF POWER?"

Can you not see the hand of a power that far surpasses our mere understanding...

Can you not see how precise He is in everything He does.

Do not look at humans but look at what they are able to make.

Architecture...Cars...Aeroplanes...Cities, towns suburbs and everything they make and when you compare this to creation it is evident as daylight that there is something way more Superior than man out there.

I don't even have to continue with the rest of your post as I rest my case by the following...

Genesis 1:1 in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth...

[And you did not believe because you cannot see God].

So God had a plan:

John 3:16 So this God sent His only son for mankind to see because man claims that seeing is believing and He died for you all men so that they may be saved and live with Him forever after time is fulfilled because He LOVES YOU SO MUCH.

He is the author and the finisher of your faith (Heb. 12:2) if you will allow Him.

All that you have to do:

Romans10:8-10 (KJV).

8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Take a step of faith:

Romans 12:3 (KJV).

3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.

[this faith is just enough to accept Him]

2 Corinthians 10:15 (KJV).

15 Not boasting of things without our measure, that is, of other men's labours; but having hope, when your faith is increased, that we shall be enlarged by you according to our rule abundantly.

[your faith will grow]

Ephesians 4:13 (KJV).

13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ.

It was predestinated by God for you to read this and the question to you is this... Do you accept Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Saviour...?

Before you answer this I have one last scripture for you...

Deuteronomy 30:19 (KJV).

19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live.

It will not be easy. Do not let anybody lie to you.

The BIBLE doesn't call it the narrow road for nothing...

From:

Evangelist Cornelius H. Müller.

Contact me on:

[email protected]

or

+27 81 852 3322.

+27 74 585 3311.

Fax2 E-mail:

+2786-571-4054.

Galatians 6:2 (KJV).

2. Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.

Luke 22:32 (KJV).

32. But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.

Never hesitate, to reply...

Ο ΘΕΌΣ ΝΑ ΣΑΣ ΕΥΛΟΓΕΊ ...

(O THEÓS NA SAS EV̱LOGEÍ) ...

GOD BLESS YOU....

0 points

Let us look at your statements one by one...

1.) You said "man created god".

This is an insult to your opinion of humanity if this is what you believe because, if man created God, then man is God, by your statement and if man created God (and God is man the creator of God) then who created You...?!

Now let's look at the logic behind this statement...

If you as a human cannot create a tree, a bird or a bee; who created man (the human, you and I) wasn't it perhaps God...?

Here is what the Oxford dictionary has got to say about man:"These are the characteristics of people, as opposed to God, ... (especially in being susceptible to weaknesses):

they are only human and therefore mistakes do occur. This my dear friend is called "the risk of human error".

I guess you made a huge error in your first statement?

2.) You claimed that man created god "not only as a way to gain rulership and power but also as a scapegoat for the benefit of their own conscience".

If man had the ability to create God, it would be my guess that man was ruler from the beginning and was powerful already. This statement has got nothing to do with a scapegoat but has got rather to do with your conscience that condemns you when you think about God.

3.) As far as the bible goes, it is just another book . This applies to all religions.

As for this "common book" as you alleged it to be, is the ONE book that has got no flaw in its contents, as far as History, the present or the future is concerned. By the way, everything that is written up in this Book is being fulfilled as time goes by... Making it not only the most accurate History Book of all times but also the most trusted futuristic Book ever written as well as the most accurate History Book ever written as History unfolds word for word, title for title and line for line as it grows older by the minute. IT IS ALSO A FACT THAT THE BIBLE IS THE MOST SOLD BOOK IN THE HISTORY OF ALL BOOKS EVER WRITTEN and yearly millions of BIBLES are given away for free...!!!

As for the most interesting part of it all...

The word History is a compound word that consists of two basic words and when looked at individually yet spoken together, it does not change the meaning of the Word.

Because it has been, still is and will always be about "His Story" and not about that of a man.

Jerimiah 29:11-14 (KJV).

11 For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the Lord, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end.[s] 12 Then shall ye call upon me, and ye shall go and pray unto me, and I will hearken unto you. 13 And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart. 14 And I will be found of you, saith the Lord: and I will turn away your captivity, and I will gather you from all the nations, and from all the places whither I have driven you, saith the Lord; and I will bring you again into the place whence I caused you to be carried away captive.

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