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What about the woman (or man) in the womb who cannot make decisions?

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Biology informs us that, as do some religions, that a unique living thing with its own genes is an individual. If those genes came from human beings then it the individual is a human being.

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What about born people without brain activity? Can we kill them too, because they are costing us a lot of money.

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target the root causes of unwanted pregnancies: poverty, lack of education, poor sexual education, etc.

- Agreed.

The primary difference is whether the practice is driven underground and left wholly unregulated, which opens up room for black market abuses of women, or not.

- If the fetus is a human being, then why would we make it safer for a person to kill it? Perhaps this analogy would help:

If you murder a pregnant woman you are charged with the death of two people. That is a dirty business, murdering people. It isn't safe. A person who does that is often mixed up in the black market of untraceable guns which is very dangerous and a person is likely to be taken advantage of or abused, aside from becoming acquainted with all kinds of undesirable people.

We shouldn't make it safer for that person or for those who are getting abortions.

What we should do is make pregnancy as safe and as comfortable for pregnant women as possible.

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Biology informs us that a living thing with a unique set of genes is an individual. If it comes from a giraffe, it is an individual of that species. If it comes from a human, it is of the human species.

We shouldn't permit the killing of innocent members of the human species.

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Let's not throw around big words like "honest, accurate, prolific, and productive" with science. Science is a set of tools. Do scientists not lie, disagree, or become counterproductive simply because they using these tools?

The best system to remove human error is to combine reason and faith. Science is clearly limited to the realm of reason. Science does not speak to love, justice, or virtue. It is helpful by revealing how things work, but it cannot tell us how to live well.

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In order for "should"s to be futile you must be willing to admit that no thing or act has objective value over another.

If teaching someone to cultivate their own food supply holds no objective value over consuming as many Twinkies as possible then perhaps there is no morality.

Since, as you note, we all have value systems, and since truth is objective, there must be some values which are better than others.


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