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Time to see beyond the spoon.

Stop giving money to liars,

and stop being spoonfed . .

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This is why the god that was left for believers to bet their lives in has nothing to do with the living word that I Am,

because if the character or spirit that the believers consider to be a god was really interested in saving or forgiving anyone, then such character or spirit would simply forgive a lot of people, which means, their account would be cleared up, no debts nor credits any longer, and people would be just forgiven,

and 'forgiven' has an opposite meaning of talking about payment of ransom or killing a firstborn son or a sheep, or any other cattle, or paying with innocent blood for the sins.

But the corrupted version of sacred bible says that everybody died, which means that the god of the believers did not forgive anyone,

and the only explanation found in your version of sacred bible, for not forgiving anyone, or for saying that everyone died is because the god of the believers wanted to make a deal,

and the god simply decided it was time for a deal that the believers called covenant.

Such covenant or deal has its demonic nature which is proper of the father of the beliefs, the devil and god of the nations,

and the demonic nature of the deal is self-evident,

just like any other deal made with the devil, the deal that is said to be sacred prescribes a price paid with blood, which means killing someone as payment of an alleged ransom,

rather than solely forgive.

that is why the god of the believers is not different from any devil, because he does not forgive without killing or promoting the fable called passion of christ with the death of a

firstborn son.

Therefore such god demonstrates to be a liar for saying that everyone died,

just like any god or idol which has proven to be very interested in making a deal with the World.

But what is puzzling You is the nature in such deal, the devil or god of the believers would have made a covenant which implied killing someone for the sins of the World,

which means a price of ransom that is paid to himself or to the devil, rather than simply forgive.

So the god of the believers does demonstrate that its nature is even more demonic than the devils or spirits that only required the killing of sheep, cats and other animals.

And half of the World has accepted the deal made with human blood,

a liar deal that has been added or inserted in the corrupted versions of new testament, that was made to deceive even the chosen ones, if it was possible for them to be deceived with so many flaws and mistranslations by re'Legion, the devil father of the beliefs or lies and god elohim of the believers.

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That the original version of your sacred bible was substituted with a demonic nature is evident because redemption is payment of ransom which only makes sense:

1. if people could not be forgiven

2. if the devil belonged to himself

3. if people belonged to the devil

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Existence has shown all things as fifty percent good and the other half as evil, and that is how your sacred bible is,

because it was made for re'Legion

and Religion is business, it always makes an offer to the World,

an alleged free package called salvation with a price already paid for your sins, that is the foundation of the Vatican and all so called christianisms,

because the belief is founded in a lie

and the lie is the statement that in order for you to be forgiven a sheep had to die, a cat had to die, someone had to be killed or sacrificed . . and the so called believers have no excuse for such lie, they are simply wrong for believing in a lie. And that is why they would go to hell, for trusting in their ministers and for putting their lives in the hands of blind that are leading the blind and their theologicians.

And the World has accepted the free offer made by re'Legion

for not caring about the following flaws,

The alleged price for the sins would have been paid at the cost of innocent blood, and the alleged payment of ransom would have been paid by the means of human sacrifice with torture or crucifixion. Ain't that a demonic lie of the father of the beliefs and lies . .

Because You just know that the means for people to be saved or forgiven is solely forgive which has nothing to do with payment of ransom.

Actually forgiveness and payment-of-ransom has opposite meanings, proving once and for all the the god of the believers does not forgive nor save anyone, it is a god that was made by order for religions, which has nothing to do with the living word that I Am.

Another proof of the mistakes and flaws in your sacred bible that was mixed with demonic statements is the belief or lie that the ransom for the sins and souls would have been paid allegedly to the devil or to the god himself or to none of the above

celestial(47) Clarified
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Whenever the arguments being presented are attacking the poster rather than the object\subjet of the debate, that is how one demonstrates that his theory\belief is in a very bad situation

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Re'Legion and beliefs have become so fake that even the truth bothers them.

Can you say there is nothing demonic about offering to the World a price already paid for the sins at the cost of innocent blood by human sacrifice which is against heavenly justice and against all laws . .

Another evidence is that the alleged price of ramson would have been paid to whom . .

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You simply know the truth from what is not, by elimination, that is how people can ascertain what has been corrupted because

the truth would never be egocentric nor command people to accept or love, because true love is spontaneous, which means Love can't be commanded.

Also the Truth would never utilize a common generic designation for deities, god or elohim, as if it was a holy name, much less in reference to him or her self.

And the real I Am, being the Truth and Fidelity, would never declare or judge anyone righteous for his belief, which is evidence proving that there is a demonic nature in your sacred bible, that is the part that came from the lying pen of scribes and from the fathers of the beliefs or lies, and from re'Legion the devil himself who was made to be a specialist on camouflages that are made to make believe or simply not let You know what the truth is.

That is why there is a good purpose in the existence of a demonic nature in your sacred bible, because people are given a chance to think by themselves, or think by their own heads, and even forget about paying reverence and money to ministers, elders, reverends and fathers of the beliefs or lies.

Also because in heavenly justice, it is like election with free spontaneous will, people are given the chance to set apart the light from the gloom, all by themselves, without religion or any external influence, and then choose the good and reject the evil

the following was quoted from Writings and Subtitles of the upcoming video called SEE WHAT IS PUZZLING YOU,

(re)Legion's biggest and most demonic lie told in your sacred bible was to convince the World that the means for them to be forgiven implied killing or sacrificing a person or a firstborn son, rather than just forgive. For the World so loved the god(s) to the point of killing a first-born son

so that everyone who believed the price for their sins had been paid should believe also in the god.

. . . . .

. .

Actually the only thing You can do for You to become friends with heaven is help the poor who live in your farm, town or cityYet, people loved the dark of the beliefs in exchange for having the price for their sins paid at the cost of innocent blood because their deeds were evil

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You simply know the truth from what is not, by elimination, that is how people can ascertain what has been corrupted because

the truth would never be egocentric nor command people to accept or love, because true love is spontaneous, which means Love can't be commanded.

Also the Truth would never utilize a common generic designation for deities, god or elohim, as if it was a holy name, much less in reference to him or her self.

That is why there is a good purpose in the existence of a demonic nature in your sacred bible, because people are given a chance to think by themselves, or think by their own heads, and even forget about ministers, elders, reverends and fathers of the beliefs or lies.

Also because in heavenly justice, it is like election with free spontaneous will, people are given the chance to set apart the light from the gloom, all by themselves, without religion or any external influence, and then choose the good and reject the evil

the following was quoted from Writings and Subtitles of the upcoming video called SEE WHAT IS PUZZLING YOU,

(re)Legion's biggest and most demonic lie ever told in your sacred bible was to convince the World that the means for them to be forgiven implied killing or sacrificing a person or a firstborn son, rather than just forgive. For the World so loved the god(s) to the point of killing a first-born son

so that everyone who believed the price for their sins had been paid should believe also in the god. . . . .

. . All You need for You to become friends with heaven is help the poor who live in your farm, town or cityYet, people loved the dark of the beliefs in exchange for having the price for their sins paid at the cost of innocent blood because their deeds were evil

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quote: . . you have to believe God's word cannot be ascertained.

If the god's word cannot be ascertained that only demonstrates that such god is not able to speak loud and clear

Actually when You start to find the pure word that is set apart then You will realize that the word is within You

because the kingdom of heaven is within all people who have the understanding of times and seasons.

However, when a person realizes that the kingdom is within him or her then he or she will become One with I Am,

and s\he will stop giving money to ministers and fathers of the beliefs or lies, and s\he will not pay reverence to them any longer,

and the World will know that yahweh is not a god but living light that gives life, and people will remember the first commandment as originally written is that you shall have not god at all - So the meaning: no god, no religion, no ministers, no elders, and no human supervision when you help the poor who live close to you, not by sight,

and people will stay in the light

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One of 7 questions I'm often asked,

Why the hell the god as presented by religion is egoistical, egocentric and does not really forgive nor save anyone without the story about paying ransom to the devil or to himself?

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