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First of all, I would like to point out that by asking "If God doesn't exist, where did we come from?" you are simply adding another step to the answer to the classic question "how did we get here." Science is in the process of discovering the origins of our universe (although I suspect we may never fully understand it). In response to your question, I have one thing to ask: where did your God come from? You argue that the universe could not have been created without a God, yet this still leaves the question of where God came from. You refuse to believe that the universe itself could have began without "divine intervention" but you seem to have no problem with accepting the fact that God was just always there; end of story.
Another point I would like to make is that you made no reference to where you got your probability argument from. If you want me to take you seriously don't just quote a number you found on AnswersInGenesis.com and use a reputable source.
Furthermore, your argument concerning Newton's First Law of Motion is, in my opinion, irrelevant and redundant. If you were to correctly employ logic in your reasoning, you basically argue that nothing should exist, because, using your logic (" it is impossible by the laws of nature for the world to have come into being without some sort of triggering force") then the existence of God is unreasonable as well. That is, of course, unless you have "faith."
Now, about your next argument. You state "who on earth are you, a human being, to question what God does? God is omnipotent and therefore knows exactly what to do, when to do it, and why to do it, while until the end of his life a human can live in denial of basic facts." Unfortunately this is not a live debate, so I will give you something to think about instead of respond to immediately. How do you know all of this? Perhaps the question we should be asking is who are you to assume that God is all of those things? It seems that religious people are rather skilled at knowing exactly what God wants, despite the fact that according to you he is an infinitely more advanced and omnipotent being. And, all of this is based on a few religious books such as the Qu'ran and the Bible ,which have both been translated and rewritten hundreds of times over thousands of years. Does that sound like a reliable source of information to you? You also state that " while until the end of his life a human can live in denial of basic facts." I would like to point out that religious people are infamous of doing this; they deny things science has proven and simply state "we must have faith."
In response to your point that you said is irrelevant to the debate, I agree for the most part. People can find enlightenment and comfort through religion and I am in no way saying that it is evil or useless. it is just that my morals lie in the truth, logic and the furthering of human knowledge, which religion (in my opinion) does nothing to propagate.
Finally, I hope that you find the time to reply to my reply (lol) and thank you for the book recommendation. I am curious as to the other side of the argument and like to see what my "opponents" believe and think in order to have more empathy and understanding. (Instead of just butting heads on the topic endlessly).
Thank you
By the way, if I would have to guess, I'd say that you belong to Christianity as you referred to God as "God" and not "Allah." Also, you may live in the Caribbean as your profile picture may suggest, and I know that the Caribbean is rife with Christianity.
I am probably a good person but I haven't taken the time to fill out my profile, so you'll never know! |