ha. we won the debate. (not here) i will be closing this off now.. i don't need it anymore.. i will still leave it open but nothign more from me.. by then!

still, i don't get what you mean by 2nd amendment. THE POINT IS THEY DO NOT GET GUNS. ANYOEN CAUGHT WITH GUNS WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO SHOW VALID PROOF THAT THEY CAN BE ARMED WITH A GUN WOUDL BE SENT TO PRISON, OR WORSE, FOR LIFE/KILLED. YOU GET IT NOW???? YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO SUPPORT ME, I WILL BE DEBATING FOR YES I AGREE IN MY DEBATE. WOUDL YOU PLEASE HELP ME OUT A BIT MORE THEN THIS!!!!!!

as a brit you understand.

in the U.K. there are no guns sold over the counter. this means are crime rate is slightly lower then the U.S. i'm sure if you came and lived in the U.K. you would see what i mean. now imagine if no criminals could get hold of a gun, you wouldn't need a protection, as no criminals have guns. if no citizen had guns, just the forces who know how to properly use it, then we would need to guns for protection, just for war. if no guns can be sold over the counter, less are going to be sold, less are going to be made, and we will be saving millions. not to also be saving materials for what we really need. special modified guns could be given to animal hunters and fishermen, maybe so they only work on certain animals, so they wouldn't be able to kill anything other then that animal. but imagine, if not so many animals were killed with guns, those animals have a right to live. selling guns over the counter means that ANYONE can have guns to just display, kill animals or 'protect themselves'. think like the U.K. snd you will soon see what i mean..... and if you are not a women, or more, still in school, change how you think for this debate, and think how i think, and debate. NO GUSN SHOUDL BE SOLD OVER THE COUNTER IN AMERICA. SEE THE U.K.'S CRIME RATE GO DOWN!

imagine you had to make the decision, what would you chose? i don't get what you mean in your second point, could you clarify? here in the U.K. we think very differently. here nobody would say they could be sold over the counter. i think if you thought from this perspective you would agree.

well, first, they wouldn't. you are killling harmless creatures. and if you had to you coudl have a special shop selling animal guns.

yes, this is a good point, although i think they should not be sold in dark alleys for criminals, just for the military forces and police

well, imagine you were the person making the decision, what would you chose?

they would get arrested if they didn't, then get killed if they didn't.

they wouldn't. that is the point. you could not buy a gun unless you had like a special license. only navy/force or police woudl be able to get them.

if nobody had guns, nobody could kill people. no guns should be able to be sold over the counter to anybody. if there are to be any guns, then only to police and the navy/force. even this, people should have approved licenses.