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A direct quote from silaswash:

Yep. A master debater just used song lyrics to claim victory over his opponents. Obviously I'm out of my league.

Regina Belle- God Is Good Lyrics

I know that God my God.

God Is Good.

God my God.

God Is Good.

You know that He brought me out of darkness.

God Is Good.

You know that He saved my soul.

God Is Good.

Said He saved my soul.

God Is Good.

I said that He saved my soul, and then He brought me out of darkness.

God Is Good.

You know that He guides my every foot step.

God Is Good.

Said He guides my every foot step.

God Is Good.

You know that He guides my every foot step, then He saved my soul, and then He brought me out of darkness.

God Is Good.

And then He put shoes on my feet.

God Is Good.

Said He put shoes on my feet.

God is Good

You know He put shoes on my feet.

So He could guide my every footstep.

Jesus saved my soul, and then He brought me out of darkness.

God is Good.

And then He put food on my table.

God Is Good.

Said He put food on my table.

God Is Good.

Said He put food on my table, then He put shoes on my feet, so He could guide my every foot step, Jesus saved my soul, and then He brought me out of darkness.

God Is Good.

And then He made a way.

God Is Good.

Said He made a way.

God Is Good.

I said that He made a way, and then He put food on my table, then He put shoes on my feet, so He could guide my every foot step, Jesus saved my soul, and then He brought me out of darkness.

God Is Good.

And with no money in my pocket.

God is Good.

With no money in my pocket.

God is Good.

With no money in my pocket, He still made a way, Then put food on my table and he put shoes on my feet, So he could guide my every footstep, Jesus saved my soul and then he brought out of darkness.

God is Good.

You know that He healed my every sickness.

God is Good.

Said that He healed my every sickness.

God Is Good.

I said that He healed my every sickness, with no money in my pocket, He still made a way - out of no way. He still made a way - out of no way. He still made a way - out of no way.

And then he put food on my table, and then he put shoes on my feet, so he could guide my every footsteps, Jesus saved my soul, I know that he saved my soul, and he saved my soul, And then he brought me out of darkness.

God is Good.

hmmm

God is Good.

Yea, yea

God is Good.

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God is Good

1 point

I will rarely attack someone ad hominem, but your blatant disregard for the rules of logic and reasoning in an intellectual debate have constantly proven your comments completely devoid of worth. Please start using fair philosophical arguments to prove your position.

In an argument that calls God's existence into question, you, under no circumstance, can use the assumption that he exists to prove a point you have to make. It defeats the purpose.

Learn how to debate, then come back to this site. Soon, no one will take anything you say seriously, unless they are equally blinded by faith.

1 point

Actually... if God gave us "free will," but knows everything that we're going to do, decide, and think throughout our life, and still punish us eternally for it, doesn't that mean that God created us simply so He could send us to Hell?

1. God gives me "free will"

2. God knows everything I will do.

3. God takes away sacredness of life by not stopping me from condemning myself (odd for an all-loving, all-forgiving being?)

4. God turns "free will" into determinism by not stopping me. (when He created me, He knew I would fail.)

5. God creates me to sends me to Hell to convert others through fear.

Thank God he is so sovereign.

1 point

Christianity teaches that sin is "anything that displeases God."

By that definition, sin can be sin, regardless of whether or not the action itself is morally correct or not. Let's do a thought experiment considering the case of a woman who breaks into a pharmacy to steal meds for her child who is going to die without them... because she can't afford the medicine. While one would normally conclude that stealing is morally wrong, in this case, I think everyone can find it fairly easy to agree that a broken window is well worth saving a life.

So, might makes right. We are punished because God can punish us for displeasing him, regardless of where our actions stand on a true moral compass. There is no one to hold God accountable for the judgement he passes on us...

No one deserves eternal punishment. Especially when your capacity for "evil" was given to you by God himself.

keenEdge(23) Clarified
1 point

I seriously hope you're referring to the likes of me. If you should have anything serious to say, please consult the following flow chart.

Supporting Evidence: Reasonable Debate Flow Chart (3.bp.blogspot.com)
6 points

God's moral standing. Good or Evil? Well, here's something to think about:

Does God command us to do things that are morally correct because they are morally correct and He is holding us to a Universal code of ethics?

or

Does God command us, and his commands are morally correct because He is an omnipotent, omniscient being?

If the first question is what you believe, then that implies that a Universal code of ethics exists outside of religion, which ultimately means that God's actions must be held to the same standard.

If you believe the second question to be the truth, then you're implying that "might makes right." I'll elaborate.

Imagine that the Christian God is in a room with 100 people. God could easily say "Thou shalt not drink a glass of water, or you shall suffer eternally." Sure, 99 people in that room may not drink a glass of water, but what about the last man? God could certainly kill the individual and sentence them to eternal suffering because that person broke God's command. But the true question still remains... what drinking the glass of water morally wrong? No. It was wrong only because God says so. No one would hold God accountable for His actions.

In philosophy, this is called the Euthyphro Dilemma. It makes it much easier to understand that even if God does exist, he would need to be perfectly, amorally fair. The Bible, however, discounts this by his [wanton] punishment of the human race over and over again.

Supporting Evidence: A Short Table Outlining the "Quantitative" Killings of the Bible (dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com)
1 point

While I can't speak for certain because several scientific and mathematical ideas prevent me from doing so, I can say that you will probably have your CreateDebate account deleted, your computer somehow destroyed by dumb-searching robots, and every future idea you ever get will be inspected for lack of reason by the Universe for posting such a ridiculous question on a forum meant for intelligent discussion and debate.

I can only assume you're just barely old enough to imagine yourself clever so... go argue dumb stuff with your other teenage friends and leave the big questions to the adults.

Have a good night.

8 points

I'll bite.

Allow me to translate your post.

"Me! I am a Christian there are other Christians here. But there are a lot of atheists and agnostics on this site. If you say something about God they immediately go and attack you and even at the end of all the arguments when you tell them to have faith they just don't accept blind assertions. P.S. A lot of people hate me on this site. Plus they use actual logical models for thought and reasoning and I don't understand it so it's dumb. They also come up with really good points that my faith doesn't allow for me to ponder for even a moment or I will suffer eternally in a lake of fire.

PPS. I may have checked your spelling and grammar errors.

1 point

I agree wholeheartedly. In that spirit, humor me by answering my question to the best of your ability.

keenEdge(23) Clarified
2 points

Let me rephrase that. Tried to edit but it wouldn't allow me... (lol).

I'll humor you and assume that God is real (and benign).

Does God command us to do what is morally correct because it is morally correct?

or

Is what God commands us to do morally correct because He commands us to do it?

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