your destiny/fate cannot be predetermined.

the word fate implies that the things you do are because an unknown force controls your actions/choices, for some already planned purpose or reason which takes place in the future. nothing can happen for a 'reason' because if predetermination doesnt exist, then the ideas of reason,purpose,destiny,fate,and future-all a form of predetermination-don't exist either.

if you have the power to make choices in life, even just 1, then that would mean that nothing can be predetermined. you either have all the power or none of the power.every statement has connotations and implied undertones, which make finite truths. because of this, all statements also imply that because these connotations and undertones exist, certain things do not exist as well. similar to you can't be moving forwards and backwards at the same time.

the events the happen in your life are determined by the choices you make. and 'fate', or destiny, is not predetermined.

the word fate implies that the things you do are because an unknown force controls your actions/choices, for some already planned purpose or reason which takes place in the future. nothing can happen for a 'reason' because if predetermination doesnt exist, then the ideas of reason,purpose,destiny,fate,and future-all a form of predetermination-don't exist either.

if you have the power to make choices in life, even just 1, then that would mean that nothing can be predetermined. you either have all the power or none of the power.every statement has connotations and implied undertones, which make finite truths. because of this, all statements also imply that because these connotations and undertones exist, certain things do not exist as well.you can't be moving forwards and backwards at the same time.

"People will act to the maxim of what they see as satisfying to their needs mentally and physically. What one sees as satisfying depends on past experiences [and future goals]"-grandpa for pro fate

when someone experiences something they enjoy, they think that 'because i feel good, and i'd like to feel good all the time, this is right.' or, 'it must be fate.' this is because as self centered beings we think that the rest of the world cares about our happiness and even strives for it. and, if i am happy, that must mean that the world is achieving their goals. the definition of fate is not things going the way that you hoped they would go. fate is a force controllling/deciding what takes place in order for an event to happen, not in order for you to feel like the world is in balance. even though that event may make you feel a certain way, the event isn't happening in order to effect you.

so basically, you are saying something you don't actually mean. you are fate the wrong definition, or you are defining something other than fate. its like you say 'this is unbelievable!' no it's not, because then you wouldnt be mentally capable of comprehending it' you actually mean 'this is very impressive or enjoyable!' so, based on the supporting arguments, you are just using the wrong term

because the argument "I do believe in fate if you're speaking of destiny being a factor in your life."-kuklapolitcan, supporting argument is not a valid point. by saying destiny is a factor in your life, you are combining two opposing forces that cannot exist together. fate/destiny implies that everything happens for a reason. this means that nothing can't happen for a reason so factor would not exist. choices are a type of factor. both cannot exist at the same time. all outcomes are affeccted by the choices you make each moment, so you can attempt to make choices that will guide you towards a desired outcome, but the outcome is never known.

every present moment is affected by the past choices,but you don't know where each choice coud take you. so you can only guess/hope that the choice you make will lead you to the next choice which leads only to the next one, and 'finally' onto 'the right choice', also known as a goal. the future does not exist. only the past and the present. because if you change the past, you change the future, in turn, eliminating fate.

you can make choices based on a goal. based on past experience, you hypothesize that by making certain choices, you will be more likely to be able to complete that goal. though, no choice is ever guaranteed to bring you to the next desired choice. you would want some milk so you make a goal to go to the kitchen. based on when you last went to the store, you hypothesize that theres a likely chance you can complete that goal. so you choose to walk down the hall. you choose NOT to wear shoes to the kitchen because based on the other hundred times you've gone to the kitchen, you wer barefoot and everything went smoothly. you suddenly snag your toe on the carpet and end up dying before you reach the kitchen.

you can also reverse this logic. if you made it to the fridge by choosing to take every step and opened it, drank the milk, put it back, and you felt good because you achieved your goal. you wanted to drink the milk, it turned out to be in the fridge, so it's fate! right? wrong. you chose to drink the milk once u saw it in the fridge, instead of choosing to pee inside the milk jug. so you controlled that event and that's why it happened. not all choices are obvious. and you make the same choices everytime in the same situation so having a choice sometimes seems irrelevant.

the milk is still in the fridge. and just because you didn't drink it, doesn't mean it's suddenly gone. if you hadn't died, the milk would have been there for you to drink. and because you didn't drink it, it remains in the fridge until someone finds your dumb dead body 3 weeks later. the milk stands tall, with or without you.

just because you meet a goal doesn't mean it was planned. or that 'it was meant to happen' it just means that your rational thinking skills aren't completely broken. you made choices based on setting a goal that you felt had a good chance at achieving. so of course it worked out just like you thought it would. you wouldn't try to sky dive without a parachute, because based on what you know, not dying would be hard to achieve.

fate doesn't exist. the ability to make decisions in the hopes of achieving a goal is possible, and it's called knowledge. being satisfied and happy about achieving that goal is called pride. when you feel like there is a reason, or a purpose, for your satisfaction towards an event, it is not because of fate. but because you are a human who has the ability to learn and experience in order to make choices based on knowlege and are very satisfied and proud of yourself when you successfully complete a plan.