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1 point

That doesnt make sense. 52%+67% is not 100%. And gay black males and black females are not overlapping demographics.

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Because if they do stop the people from investing wherever they please, then its pushing the religion down the employee's throat. That wont sit right with anyone.

I think the contraceptive case is different because they aren't forcing you to d what they want, they just don't want to be a part of it.

The dealings with china are the same.

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For the last time I don't live in America, your jargons and constitutional rights mean absolutely nothing to me. However, you are to an extent right. In the past as far as I know, Christians and Muslims cracked down on non-binary marriages and call you names, but I do believe that their is mutual understanding between the life you want to live and the life we want to live now. Some of us disagree and draw lines in the sand without calling you degenerate names but at the same time I can't speak for everyone. I respect you as an individual, I respect your decision to do as you please with your life, but when I say I don't agree, for some reason I am a homophobe. That is what I meant. And that is my stance.

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I don't know but you do have a point. She should avoid those too.

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The England church lawsuit was months ago, i don't know how it's going. The florist doesn't care if they sin, that isn't why she refused to do it. she just never wanted to feel like an active participant in the sin. She wasn't discriminating against sinners, she just never wanted to sin herself. that is what she translated it as.

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I personally believe that disagreements is confused as hate all the time. You see us, then you expect us to conform to every lifestyle you have and if we say we don't disagree, we are assholes and bigots. Yeah, we don't know how to disagree, but when we do it politely, there is no escaping labeling.

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the Civil Right's movement is not exclusive to America; the parameters of the debate is not exclusive to America. I don't know what the first amendment is and i am not American. I don't care either. Moving on.

The florist stated she would not be the florist for their wedding because she did not support gays getting married. She isn't picking which sins to deny services to, she is drawing a line in the sand between her and her customers. It is obvious that selling flowers to somebody isn't a sin, however being an active participant in their wedding can be considered one. And who are you to tell her if she is practicing discrimination or her religion.

timber113(796) Clarified
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It was? Sorry, lemme go again.

A florist (not a bakery) who is a Christian is being forced to participate in a wedding which is against her beliefs. It's not a church, but let us move from semantics so you can understand my point.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/ 2013/04/10/WA-State-Sues-Florist-for-Refusing-to-Service-Gay-Wedding

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Now this is about a gay couple sueing a church for not allowing them to have a wedding in said church.

‘I am still not getting what I want’: Gay couple suing church for refusing ‘wedding’

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/i-am-still-not-getting-what-i-want-gay-couple-suing-church-for-refusing-wed

That is the link.

You can completely disregard the first article because a florist isn't a church (even though I do believe it is synonymous because forcing a church is similar to forcing Christians and vice versa), but the second one is obvious.

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I agree we should proclaim it but sometimes I think moving through a man made system to proclaim spiritual things is a little silly. we can teach the people, not force the government.

timber113(796) Clarified
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3) No one is forcing churches to marry them.

That is what it was in reference to man. churches do get forced to marry them and Christians get forced to participate.

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