So right. I guess this has a lot of lovely religious connotations, but for people who aren't religious, just replace 'sinners' with 'human.'

Alright. I'm not really imaginative enough to explain why we'd find the creator or have infallible proof that he's just a man in a single paragraph without someone poking holes in it, so let's just say that we, the human race, find either the creator himself, or irrefutable proof of his existence and his work. And he's just a man. Someone you can y'know, shoot in the chest and bam. Dead. He's not overly intelligent either. His explanation, too, for creating us, isn't exactly sagacious either. Something like, "I was bored," or "I wanted to," or, "I'm not really sure." Are you satisfied with this conclusion? (As a side note, if you say, 'this can't happen' and proceed to argue against the proposed situation or something equally tangential I'm kicking you out of the debate for being a killjoy.)

Before I go any further, I should just say fuck how welfare is being handled. I don't approve. It's sloppy. That being said, from my base understanding, socialsm is just a less hardcore communism. You know. People help eachother out and we support people who aren't on their feet right now. We're missing the really important actual rehabilitation bit and our current 'socialist' policies are y'know. Stupid. More like 'give out free money to morons so they can keep being morons.' BUT! That being said. As we move closer to a more technological era, and more and more things are growing automated,(Some things already should be automated) you're going to find that there's going to be less and less secondary jobs. Most of the essential jobs are going to be in the farming and mining and refining industries. And there's going to be even more automation in these industries, too.   But to the point. As business models change(And they will, despite being incredibly stubborn) There's... just going to be less real work. Labor's going to be pointless, menial tasks for people that they only really do to say that they actually have a job. It's eventually going to get to a point where we're going to have to share the wealth and start exploring more artistic and scientific endeavors. But. Honestly. Not giving people basic needs is going to be more of like a dick thing that you do just because you want to fold your arms and say, "If they're not doing their part, they're jerks and I hate them and they should work for a livin'. Hrmph." Which yes. I think people should be productive members of society and not crazy drug-addled fiends, but we are going to reach a point, and probably already have where most of the laboring people do is going to be pointless. Please, if you're going to come in here swinging, rage-laden and grumbly, don't bother posting. I'm actually curious as to the intelligent arguments against moving towards more socialistic policies.

So there's a weird sort of problem we run into whenever we look at our concepts of freedom and compare it to all of our governments. Even as a child growing up here in the GOOD 'OL USA, we're made to believe that this the land of the free. I don't necessarily disagree. I mean, I'm pretty thankful to have all of the opportunities and choices that I do. But freedom isn't exactly well, something that you can just give people. You have to take it. And that's the thing -- our societies and governments are literally the things that consume freedom. We fear the loss of control so much, but we give it up every day. Whether or not you think that's bad is up to you. Sometimes it's great, I think. But let me get to the point:   If you've read books like Anthem and The Giver(I had to, and I didn't exactly like it), then you know where this is going. But I want you to really reflect on this instead of just giving your opinion straight from the hip; because this is supposed to make you think. There's nothing like grinding your gears on some moral question like this. Assuming at some point in the future, the technology and science is available: You're given the option to give up all of your freedoms utterly, but in exchange, you'll be given absolute peace of mind and happiness. You'll be so drugged up and out of your mind that you won't care a bit. Your life will pass by like a summer breeze and you'll never know pain again.   Would you, at some juncture in your life, highs and lows included, take this option? And if you can answer that, would you condone it, if not giving in yourself?

Now, before you get all uppity and in arms or whatever, I've got to clarify here so you don't crawl up my butt. I was raised Baptist, and my mother is Baptist. I had a crisis of faith at about twelve, and when I sort of realized that maybe reading a book that men wrote was a bad idea, I dropped it, and started going with what logic had taught me. What we can percieve is about as real as it gets, and since there's no personal evidence for a divine, why in the world would I believe in anything? For the longest time, I was athiest. Then agnostic. And now I'm starting to think that there's something to this machination. I don't really consider myself a philosopher, no, but whenever I start to ponder on exostential nonsense, I keep finding things either ending with a zero-sum(or nothing. Not like contemporary nothing. Literal nothing.) or infinity. Time is the real punk in all of this too, considering it's a human construct and kind of hard to uh, break, in terms of thought. In any event, with our current knowledge, our best bet at what the 'beginning' was was the big bang. And if you don't know what that is, you should probably be slapped. Right. So. The big bang. The creation of uh, everything. What happened before that? And what happened before that? And what happened before that? And what happened before that? And so forth. See where I'm goin' with this? So look, sure, there's probably an explanation for that too, but it all comes down to there being at least some form of greater power to something. And I'm not just talking out of my ass. At least, really hope I'm not. I'm using a keyboard right now. That'd be... awkward. In so many ways. And I'm not insisting that whatever it is has benevolence, or is even capable of benevolence, but nothing doesn't just become something and play out like it has without that something being an audacious fuck. So let's go back to that big bang point. The whole creation of the universe there. Let's assume, for argument, that this was indeed the initial point of creation. That this is where existance began. Now, the opposite of the universe existing is it not existing. And if the universe doesn't exist, by that logic, then nothing exists. And if nothing exists, then why would it suddenly spawn something? Not to mention a something that's so dirty and complex that it doesn't even make sense anymore. We can see, at some points or another that there are connections. Building blocks. Orbits. Mathematical equations for figuring things out, but everything is still, when taken from a different angle, complete and utter chaos. Now only something with a mind to, as simple or complex as it is, could ruin the perfection that nothing had going on so well. And let's say the big bang isn't the point of origin anyways. We can find another point of origin. And another.   Right so, my biggest flaw with this whole logic train I had here is mostly that uh, I do not understand the 'fourth dimension' or how quantum physics work at all. What with the whole infinity zen loop nonsense n' all. That might play in, I'm sure.

From the Wiktionary: 1. (religion) Apathy towards the existence of a god; belief that the question of the existence of a god is unimportant.

Pornography doesn't actually hurt anyone. The actors all realize what they're doing beforehand, the viewers all want some sort of release, and everyone is happy in the end. However, sexuality is frowned upon in most modern societies as something gross or scarring. So that leads me to question. What does CD think? Is pornography immoral?

Simple enough.

Qymosabi seems to think that Skin Color is more important when handling a person than who they are. I beg to differ. In a world where people are starting to rise together in a world community, should we look back on what has already happened and let the rage fester? Come on Qymosabi. If you want to debate, we'll debate. Who do you think has the highground? The racists who are fueled by what has happened far in the past, or those who don't see skin tone as a factor anymore? Edit: Changed to should. Maybe that'll clarify some things. Edit 2: Fixed Definitive. Man that's embarrasing.

Well, I can let you guys figure this one out for yourselves. What do you think? Is fear the root of all evil?

"United we stand, divided we fall[...]" - Patrick Henry(March 4th, 1799) "Freedom is indivisible, and when one man is enslaved, all are not free." - John F. Kennedy(June 26th, 1963) With all of the debate on homosexuality, sex, racism, religion, and terrorism, I have but to ask: Are We United?

Please look at the pictures in this link. I... don't think I can comment on this right now. My faith in humanity has just died.

This issue is of the utmost importantce. To beard, or not to beard. That is the question: I used to have a beard. You may or may not see it to the right of you. Should I grow another beard or remain beardless? THIS IS IMPORTANT PEOPLE. MY FACIAL HAIR CONFIGURATION RELIES ON YOU.

Not a lot of people like to talk about the USA's terrible terrible past and what we did to the Native Americans. Everyone kind of just files it under "Oh it happened, lets just forget about it." But loads of people talk about the Hallucast. In my opinion, what we did to the Natives was far worse than what Hilter did to the Jews. Well, we didn't do the concentration camps but disease infested blankets, forcing them to convert to Christianity or DIE, and stealing all of their land just seems like they got a pretty raw deal to me. So, who suffered more? The Jewish community during WWII or the Native Americans during the 'taming' of North America and the erecting of the USA?

This my friends, is it. Ireland has done it. They have passed a law that makes blasphemy in any form completely and utterly illegal. That means cartoons of Muhammid, 'insulting' oppinions about christianity, and saying the guy who founded Scientology was completely insane are all considered illegal acts and can land you a hefty 25,000 euro fine. As a way to start off this party, Ireland has also given permission to police forces around the country to break into houses without warrants if they suspect they might have any blasphemous material. All blasphemous material is to be removed from Ireland and possession of 'blasphemous' material can land you a 25,000 euro fine as well.   So to the question What do you think about this law?   Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/libertycentral/2009/jul/09/ireland-blasphemy-laws

I've been picking through a couple of the newest debates and some of the stuff that's been going on. (I.E. the downvoting and upvoting craze in the debate about pot... by completely new members. Seems kind of odd to me?) Not to mention the dumb debates that serve no purpose. That or the debates for ego stroking. I mean, I don't want CD to turn into an elitist community, but I sure as hell don't want it to turn into a trollsite.

Say there's a corrupt government thats starving and slaving its people. You hear about it on the news and get your friends together, buy some weapons from the black market and smuggle them into the country... Successfully. The government is creating grave injustices and trampling on human rights. In this case, is it right to terrorize the government of that country?

Just... just look at the intro to this website. ICCM

I don't know if there already are childrens shows that have homosexual characters and what have you, but the idea popped into my head. I thought the debate might be a little more heated since it involves the children and some people have backwards morals when it comes to dealing with children, which is fine. Of course, in most children's television, there's not much about relationships. Well, from what I've seen. But there's the whole projections and overtones and all that fun stuff. Just 'gestures' if you will... Of course, to the question. Should Homosexual characters be allowed in television shows for Early Childhood?(3-8)

Welp, it's official, they tagged the guys who started up pirate bay. It's one of the most infamous torrenting sites on the high seas. They're to spend a year in Sweedish jail and pay a fine of Four point five million USA dollars.   ... Is that a fair judgement? I mean, how in the hell are they going to afford that?   Source

    The founding fathers based the USA on the basis of splitting off of a power which, at that time, was corrupt to some level. The war that ensued would be a major turning point in the history of the western world. They won. They actually WON. Well, lets not forget the french and the spanish were both entirely pissed off with Britain at the time, but that's not the point.   If it ever came down to it, if the USA itself became the enemy of every single one of the moral fibers in your body and you felt that everything was wrong, would you fight against it? It IS the duty of the people to right the wrongs of their government.

The Big Bang Theory is widely accepted as the most logical creation of everything since we really don't have all that much to go on. There's been observation in trajectory and the like that leads towards some sort of outward explosion from what we can see.   Though, once again, it's the most widely accepted theory only because we have evidence supporting it. But not enough to prove it.   Even if you do believe in creationism, I think it might still be possible to believe in the big bang but have a totally different reason behind it happening. Whatever works for you.

Are 'lowlives' who... seem to be genuinely happy with the way they're living terrible people? When I say lowlives I mean people who do drugs frequently, sleep around, squander their potential, take the easiest road out, and generally live in a way that's frowned upon.   What do you think?   Edit: See I ask because I seem to have a problem where as long as someone is happy with their life and they aren't murdering anyone or making anyone else totally miserable, they're good in my eyes. Not that I'd want to meet a coke head.