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I don't like Trump.

Disparate outcomes have various, articulable causes. Systemic Racism is one of those causes only when the specifics of that racism can be articulated. It almost never can. Disparate outcomes are not sufficient evidence when those outcomes have so many other actual causes.

Amarel(5005) Clarified
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The Nazis were run by Hitler under a singular hierarchy. Police Departments are controlled by their city leadership. They have individual policies. Police are officers of the state in which they reside.

If you want to assert that something is the case, you have to provide evidence for your case. It cannot be assumed that the policies of the Baltimore PD have any impact on the actions of an officer with the Minneapolis PD. Not without evidence.

If you insist that a connection must be assumed unless there is evidence to the contrary, then you must also prove that you aren't secretly molesting puppies, which can be assumed.

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Systemic racism is the catch-all word for people who can't find any racism but want to blame racism. You provided an excellent example.

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You provided evidence that Baltimore has a problem in order to show that Minneapolis has a problem. The disconnect on paper is obvious. The disconnect in your brain is a mystery.

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The Boston tea party would be analogous if the colonists, in their anger at the crown, set fire to the colonies.

Protests work. Ask MLK. Rioting merely adds the benefit of more death, crushed dreams, and a few people getting a little loot.

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Looter mind

"First spot we hit it was my liquor store

I finally got all that alcohol I can't afford

With red lights flashin' time to retire

And then we turned that liquor store into a structure fire."

Sublime

Sublime provides the mindset of a looter
Amarel(5005) Clarified
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It's not immaterial to the charges in question.

I agree that the bigger issue is the perception of racism. That's what's led to the national catastrophe. But if there are a series of racially charged occurrences, like this one, with a lack of evidence of racism, like this one, then you will have a mass perception that is incorrect.

Nationwide studies that account for crime rates and types do not support the racist cop narrative. Yet that narrative is perpetuated by people with strong a belief in perceived racism.

Amarel(5005) Clarified
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I'll quote the headlights of your source. "Racist Police Practices Are Endemic in Baltimore".

Not only have you not shown how the officer was racially motivated, but you failed to show how his department is racist. You've failed to show that they have racist policies and practices. You've failed to show anything except for an article about a city a thousand miles away. A city with different policies and practices. Your best explanation is that they wear the same color clothing.

On the other hand, you also said that individual racism need not be precent for endemic racism to exist. Which essentially concedes the fact that nothing indicates racial motivation of the killer beyond his race and that of his victim.

Furthermore, when you see disparate outcomes between races, you have to find racist causes for it to actually be racist. Just saying "it's institutional", is not an explanation. It's not accurate. And it doesn't help. All it does it make ignorant people want to burn shit.

Amarel(5005) Clarified
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The change in the cash register? Not really. Multi racial crime against multi racial victims shouldn't give you a warm and fuzzy.

Amarel(5005) Clarified
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What???

I study of Baltimore policies says absolutely nothing about the motivations of a guy in Minneapolis.

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It wouldn't be the same action, obviously. But your reasoning is fundementally the same. It's not unique to Nazis. Commies had it for the Bourgeoisie, KKK has it for Blacks, and BLM has it for cops. It's called Collectivist thinking and you have a bad case of it.

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I understand now. You were mugged by a black guy so you joined the KKK. You are the fucking problem.

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You wanna fire people because they wear blue? Wtf? Does a star of david make a person greedy?

Amarel(5005) Clarified
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Everything you present demonstrates the probable cause for a murder charge but fails to logically connect to your last two sentences.

Amarel(5005) Clarified
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Those two cities are 1100 miles apart. But if Democrats tend to have racist city policies, then their may be a commonality of racism between Baltimore and Minneapolis.

Even so, unless you demonstrate that a study of Baltimore provides the cause of an individual's action in Minneapolis, your just blowing smoke. You might as well say that a black guy mugged you once to justify your white hood and cloak.

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Did you know that there are about as many civilians are shot by police each year as there are police arrested by police each year? But there are way more civilians than cops, which means police must be cracking down on cops at sky high rate. Right? That high arrest rate goes along with a higher than average conviction rate. That's some blue line they've got there. And if that cop criminality sounds horrific, consider that cops are arrested at about 1.7 per 100,000 while the general population is arrested at about 3,888 per 100,000

Supporting Evidence: Wapo report (www.washingtonpost.com)
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Air traffic controllers who already weren't working!

I said a few, and you said three. What does a few look like to you? There are close to a million cops in the country. When they victimize people, it's an outrage that goes viral. That's because it's rare.

Hey, if every Jewish business I ever encountered put the screws to me, would you stand by me telling you to go fuck yourself for being one of them? You are making the same logical error that fueled the holocaust. The same error that perpetuates racism. YOU are making that error, so stop it.

Amarel(5005) Clarified
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It's minnesota. There are tons of white people cashing in on the situation and looting. Racial cultural differences are not that large.

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I said I wanted a new TV from Target...but no one heard me.

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Firing everyone who refuses to work isn't the same as firing everyone of a given profession. The resemblance is in your elimination of an entire category of people based on the actions of a few. It is completely irrational to fire Joe Cop in Colorado because Officer Murderer killed a man in Minnesota.

It's the same kind of irrationality that has some folks saying "I got mugged by a black guy so I hate black guys" or "I got racially profiled by an asian clerk so I hate Asians" or "I specifically seek Youtube videos of cops appearing to act incorrectly so I hate cops". It's all the same logical fallacy that lies at the root of racism. Stop committing that fallacy.

Amarel(5005) Clarified
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Which aspect concerning the current murder case in Minneapolis let's you know that the murder was racially motivated?

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There should be a few questions for the City Government as well. The following is from the Minneapolis PD Use of Force Policy 5-311:

Neck Restraint: Non-deadly force option. Defined as compressing one or both sides of a person’s neck with an arm or leg, without applying direct pressure to the trachea or airway (front of the neck). Only sworn employees who have received training from the MPD Training Unit are authorized to use neck restraints. The MPD authorizes two types of neck restraints: Conscious Neck Restraint and Unconscious Neck Restraint. (04/16/12)

http://www.minneapolismn.gov/police/policy/mpdpolicy 5-3005-300?cfchljschltk=b42d474dd347c64a58a400d72b1f855bb2338d65-1590779617-0-AU5KB10TJq8MdeWjUYD5 H9yYRHDH3BCZ2zo13BeX0YFSuQ7ufi05Zdv9vE-sBUUK9Vz861qdK4gNkbAYrFtVU6BovOuSIuSmD7smEAyTIikxUWyXcLZyirSjQyPE0NNdWBDLWV shr5cGYSukzWKqInXz7wa8I2PrB8Ao5QqR3sJzgvF lBe9GWeVAk9wiyZuoW0K9hK2uhs9CZolRwPPpsx70z-HqocOJXDTu-hxgU-w0KauPvLm6J25Wxr9zBsN9a8UVgtxBCNEb mAaEDzBxPCwmLlBG8nugaTA6tTDBOE9Zr7NPBKUjlu269yQ

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Your solution of firing them all resembles a final solution I once heard about. You can't punish this individual for the actions of that individual. That's how we get racism, anti-Semitism, and all the other forms of collectivist bigotry. That's how we get so divided that cities burn. An actual start to an actual solution would be for you to stop being part of the problem.

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And then the mother of the murdered Charlottesville protestor thanked Trump. Makes sense.


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