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I shall suspend disbelief to reply.

Your god created Adam as a fully grown individual.

Adam was therefore created with a full memory.

[the only way we know anything is by being able to recall it from memory]

Adam was therefore preprogrammed by your god.

Eve likewise.

Therefore every decision they made was based on knowledge and memories that had been put in place by your god.

God programmed them to sin.

Not a god I would choose to worship.

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The scientific method [ and simple logic] demolishes the holy books by proving that they are not the inerrant words of any being.

Once inerrancy is disproven, the book becomes irrelevant in any argument for the existence of a god.

The book is the only evidence for the existence of the god.

Therefore science can be used to disprove the evidence for the existence of the god.

Which means that anyone who proclaims the existence of any god must provide evidence outside their holy books.

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Justify your statement that religion is responsible for most progress.

It wasn't so long ago that everyone in the West believed in witches, and that slavery was ok, and that blacks were inferior human beings, and that rainbows were magical and that mental illness was due to evil spirits. What is your point?

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Of course wikipedia should not be relied upon. It should only ever be used as a starting point, and all citations should be carefully checked. But with that caviat it provides and excellent and growing repository of information because it is under constant review and improvement.

Alternatively you could use a 2,000 year old goat herder's manual as your only reference - and ignore reality.

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We well understand geology and plate tectonics now. We have a good idea how mountains form.

Therefore we can be certain that Mt Everest was little different 6,000 years than it is now.

So a proponent of the biblical flood would need to explain where the water required to raise sea levels by 5 miles came from and went to. And a couple of thousand other things of course :)

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Without religion: logic and reason must be used to defend a stated position.

With religion: religious dogma sets the position and there is no recourse to logic or reason because the big I AM has decreed.

And as it has been proven time and time again that the same holy words can be used to support polar opposite positions.

We did not stop burning witches because some god changed their mind.

We do not decry slavery because the bible was rewritten.



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