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DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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Not to burst your bubble, but that wasn't your point. All you did was state that marijuana was being voted on in four states, not that Republicans were leading the drug war. So you're sort of jumping to an ill-defined conclusion on that part.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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Then you're simply looking to expel groups like Excon's. Because they are, by a majority, the ones who seem to be so adverse to having some form of integrated culture.

As I cannot speak for the rest of my race. I'd like it if the inner city areas, and those who feel so inclined could ditch the whole "thug" mentality, and total gang apparatus that keeps them down in the gutter. Doing so would allow them to not only improve themselves, but to help improve their communities as well. And I'm not going to act like whites are immune to this same thing. Because we've all seen those guys who do their best to emulate the gang/thug subculture, and it usually just comes off as being sad, or at the very least, irritating.

As it sits, I've got to side with Israel on this one. While they've had their own issues with keeping up with the demand of maintaining the region, and Palestine has apparently been doing their best to make it a difficult task.

It's just that we've seen Palestine commit so many horrible acts in all of this, and just how their media has turned anything, no matter how base, or even extreme Israel's people do. Into what appears to be some sort of world wrenching war-crime. But they've continued to do so, even after being caught in the act several times.

I've wondered just when they'll tempt fate and force Israel to start actually fighting an all out war with Palestine, because it didn't exactly go in their favor last time, and I doubt Israel will be so forgiving this time around.

The main issue here, is that you can't really take anything that Don says legitimately. He's one of the same far left sociopaths that been fine with people being dragged from their cars, and beaten in the streets. As well as being wholly racist on live TV, so he's nothing more than the exact same thing that he pretends to stand against.

This is the same man who stated that Donald Trump was a racist, claiming that it was fact and not opinion.

However when Biden made an obvious racist statement against blacks, one that drew him an intense amount of criticism from both parties. Lemon instead went to bat for Biden, much like he does now, and stated that he Understood what Joe was trying to say.. apparently gearing up for his daily defense of the man, in the years to come.

Don is nothing but a pretender at this point. He's racist, bigoted, corrupt, and more than willing to thumb his own morals so long as it keeps him in the good graces of those around him.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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This is excon you're talking to. So long as the big government mommy is willing to step on them, they seem rather submissive to the fact.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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Once again, nothing but projection at this point. One reason being that none of these people own plantations. So you're just doing nothing but biting your own tongue in the usual method. You're also just calling them racist, despite nothing they've said that actually qualifies as being a "racist" statement.

So once again, you're just screwing yourself over in all of this.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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That's a whole hell of a lot of projection in one single post.

This is nothing new, though I don't actually think the term white supremacist is a complete fit for them. Seeing as the term racist, just slides much more snuggly into place when concerning them.

I agree to the celebration, but this topic could actually use a body instead of just a title.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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Actually this is one of the last places that I've been able to find the image. I've seen it put up on twitter a few times, but it keeps getting taken down by twitter. So I was forced to look for a new source for the image in general.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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Still pushing lies I see.

Thanks for doing the same song and dance though. It's not like we haven't seen this story taken so widely out of context before, so you're doing nothing new at this point.

Supporting Evidence: Donald Trump's remarks on possible means to treat covid-19 (www.politifact.com)

Can people just put actual views to support here as a choice, instead of something like this whole "I like the 1930s Klan". Because this is nothing but detrimental to the conversation.

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As for the topic of critical race theory, it is a pretty disgusting aspect of the lefts ideology. They not only use it as a springboad to show just how racist that they actually are, but they use it as a means to espouse just how other races should be treated differently just for simply being a different race.

The same people who push such a morally bankrupt system are the same ones who believe that the very concept of keeping time, is a system of white supremacy. So that should be one of your larger red flags in that instance.

It's so much more worse when you see the mainstream media doing their best to run damage control for the man.

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But we all got to see Macron scold the old man, if only for a little bit.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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Go figure, excon still can't go several minutes without crying about Trump. On a topic that doesn't even concern the man.

Then again, Trump appearing to shove a prime minister still shows much of the same that we knew about the man. He's bombastic, and out there with how he presents himself. IN fact, Biden is much the polar opposite of everything that Trump appeared to be. He's weak, nearly senile, pathetic, and apparently unable to stand up to even the slightest opposition. While being completely incapable of projecting any strength whatsoever.

Hell, Biden has more issues falling out for him due to what happened at G7. And more keeps coming down the pipe as time goes on. So if all you can really be upset about is Trump appearing to shove someone, while letting Biden have a pass on actually fucking up. Is no real surprise to the rest of us.

And just for some eye candy, here. The president of the united states, being scolded by a frenchman. Their president no less.

Supporting Evidence: Biden being scolded by Macron (www.tigerdroppings.com)

I'd have to agree with this stance here. It's not like we haven't seen Excon completely disconnect with reality in the past, because several of us can just pull up multiple post where Excon does just what he being mentioned. Hell, at this point I believe that Excon has more than one account here, simply so they can act as racist as possible on one, and then act all morally bankrupt about it on another.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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So like every other time before this, you're just going to tuck your tail and hide from the topic at hand...

Nothing surprising there.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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You do realize that regurgitating such a lie, only works as a detriment to yourself and no one else, correct?

The concept is still that slavery is still practiced for us, as well as places like in china. Something that we would all participate in, and build production off of at that point.

As it pertains to today however, we're stuck standing there and pointing our fingers, telling these people to stop these practices. Something that we actually can't enforce, or even expect them to listen to us on the matter.

This wouldn't be a surprise if it turned out to be true. Though for the time being we don't actually know what race Excon is, nor can we really take anything they say for granted. However the same can be said of you in this exact case.

As for slavery today, that's somethin that one can easy site statistics for.

-As of 2018, the countries with the most slaves were: India (8 million), China (3.86 million), Pakistan (3.19 million), North Korea (2.64 million), Nigeria (1.39 million), Indonesia (1.22 million), Democratic Republic of the Congo (1 million), Russia (794,000) and the Philippines (784,000)- Garnered from Wikipedia.

To be honest, I don't really like getting statistics from Wikipedia. I was an editor for nearly seven years, and most of the people who run the site now are of questionable morals.

It wouldn't be the first time they've done as such. Hell, I remember when their members still openly called republicans like Condoleezza Rice, uncle tom, or even a coon. So them telling blacks how to think would be the least of what I've seen.

Well given the fact that in this hypothetical reality, slavery is legal. It would also mean that it's still widely accepted by the populace.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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I don't really watch Tucker and I haven't seen anything from Hannity in possibly over a decade. So there's another direct lie of yours shot down once again.

-As for the ACLED's study. There are more than a few issues any critical thinking person could come up with here.

1. Being the spotty nature of their findings. Seeing as it's also ignoring other violent acts, or even just their repercussion.

2. Which was what turned me off from the study the first time around, is the fact that not only the media turned to using this study as propaganda. Before the study was even completely finalized and when other credited individuals were still putting holes in it's findings. If you can actually call them findings.

3. The file reads more in tone with being pro-demonstration and anti-law enforcement. In fact it reads like it was written by someone on CNN, attempting to clear BLM members of blame. And doing their best to lay blame for the violence on police and right-wing militias. Despite the fact that such militias were not present in these circumstances.

Hell, the ACLED accounts for the CHOP in Seattle. Made up of both BLM and Antifa members. There were two murders, three attempted murders, an attempted rape, near mass vandalism, and physical assaults daily. And despite riots still going on at the time. The ACLED calls the CHOP a success, and only has "peaceful protest" recorded at that period.

That seems like a rather large hole in their "findings" already, don't you agree?

That is pretty much as far from the truth as you can get on the subject. BLM is nothing in any way comparable to begging for acceptance. If anything, it's a demand for recognition, and probably one being done in one of, if not the worst ways that one could go about it.

They've spent several years now building the base of their movement up upon a select set of lies, and notions that don't actually hold up to the slightest amount of scrutiny. Yet if you openly try to question them, or their actions. You're quickly lobbed into the same pit as those who they claim to be some form of monster. For which we've already told the world that we will not abide by.

I've been alive long enough, and see far more than enough to know that most of what they've built this movement on. Is a verifiable lie, or at the very least a mischaracterization of a small factoid.

As it pertains to the ex-prime minister, or whoever he is. He's doing nothing more than trying to bade points, or at the very least take a stand on his own personal soap box.

-As to the issue with developing countries like these. It's more compounded by a multitude of factors. They need to take responsibility for their own people, their own issues, and their own relations. Instead of counting on larger countries to come in and fix things for them.

-They need to move their own people out of such horrible conditions, as well as being constantly victimized by lawless groups, or even state funded militia groups, and everything else in between. Because this is exactly how we have a thing such as the blood diamond trade, or otherwise known as "conflict diamonds".

-Many of these people simply need to be uplifted, and brought into the 21 century. Along with everything that could benefit them in that same run.

These are just small references to a larger list of things that could be done to better these countries.

Even if you got into it, exon would ignore it because it's something that simply blows a nice fat hole in their own side of the argument.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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If you had any weight to throw around on this issue, you'd do so. But you're simply stuck at making personal insults, and missing the topic almost entirely.

So you're only doing more damage to yourself with each post, not the other way around.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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You're talking to excon, Amarel. The same person who does nothing but move the goalpost, insult, banter with straw-man arguments & fallacies. All while not directly addressing the topic of the discussion.

Seeing as you can't really debate anyone in general, or stay on topic for that matter. I find this a pretty terrible rabbit hole for you to go down at all.

But this is you trying to avoid a simple discussion. Something where a lie just tried to save someone face, and the other could cost people their lives.

I can only roll my eyes so hard at this point.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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-Biden is our president, for now. It's just four years and I'm a patient man. There is no cause for worry, unless he's really intent on screwing our debt up to such astronomical numbers as some have projected.

-As for the Maricopa audit, it all seems to be both legal and above board. This is just another highly politicized issue, so it's no wonder that so many are jumping on the bandwagon and calling out red flags. Though with a distinct lack of red flags, we have nothing else to go on. Maricopa's issue is possibly bridged in from what we could see popping up across the country when the calls for mass mail in voting happened. Larger numbers of fraud, inconsistency, and faults being brought to lite in our voting system. Hell, over the last few elections. A total of something like 22 million votes were just never counted, or never actually made it. So none of this is actually new to anyone who keeps an eye out for it.

Let them have their audit, and if it does turn into a legal issue then we side on the law. Plain and simple.

As it goes, it appears that the housing issues are mostly localized in larger areas.

I rent out and own my own property here, and I'm not really seeing any impact. Though that could all simply change with time, so who knows at this point.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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No, Biden's just just been completely fine with nearly all of the killing, rioting, destruction, and general lawlessness of his supporters for a few years now. Either defending them, or acting like they don't actually exist.

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As for Trump, his path to overturn the elections ruling was a legal one and even though it failed. He still did as such legally. And even if he does insult his opponents, they're pretty much getting what they've been giving this entire time. We also have no right to see his tax returns, and even after they were leaked to the media. We discovered that he not only paid his taxes, but that he also paid more in interest than his democrat opponents.

And not that it requires repeating, but he did not start, nor did he attempt to start a riot. Hell, the problems at the captial building were coming ahead even before his speech got off the ground. So that's just another falsification that needs to be put to rest.

Well this is the same guy that said "Well I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black."... So we do have some definitive proof about his views on race.

To be honest here, we're still figuring out who exactly stormed the capital and who was just let in by the guards to apparently take selfies, or wander around.

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Despite how bad any general riot is, I'd rather take the riot that we had at the capital. Then have to deal with what's been going on in places like Baltimore, and other democrat control areas. Hell, we had over 100 nearly continuous days of protest in Portland and a great measure of all of it was violent.

Hopefully our economy will start to bounce back.

But given what we're currently seeing with the housing market, the future of the national debt, and all of these plans for rolling our new relief funds. We could just be digging a bigger hole for ourselves in all of this.

We may have protest, especially if the evidence against Trump is highly suspect and they still chose to convict. Though if he's not convicted, then we'll most likely see several weeks of left wing fueled riots, destruction of private/federal property, and killings.

Which will no doubt affect the poor and/or minorities on a whole. Which means that the left in general just wont give a damn about the damage they'd actively be doing.

It's just another Tuesday at this point.

This is mainly because they've spent the last few years, shanking their own journalistic integrity in the side.

Many of these groups that reported such things as the idea that the virus came from a lab, as being racist. Were unfortunately going to have to own up to something sooner, or later. So much horrible crap just flowed freely out of the media in the last few years, and all of it was mostly for the sake of hating Trump and nothing more.

They may have to eat crow, but the people with the power to fix this wont do it, because they simply don't care. The money will flow either way.

Well it's the same kind of story here. Much as it is with the children being thrown back into holding facilities that so many people were adamant about having closed under Trump, that Biden apparently decided to reopen.

In the end, hating Trump was just a vehicle for things to move. And none of those things actually went anywhere.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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So long as you keep up this act, it doesn't really help anyone.

Though you're completely welcome to stand up on a corner in Minneapolis, and repeat the exact same things that you keep saying here. I'd even buy you a bullhorn to help spread the word.

Until then, you have no place in questioning if anyone else has any sort of courage to stand up for whatever values you believe are being damaged here.

Yeah, this kind of thing would have a certain outcome.

Though I think it's somewhat poor to take in the stats as they crop up across the country, and just pull the ones from those areas that have actively begun a process like this. Because we already know of a few cities that have taken part in this exact same message, and are now dealing with sizable increases in violent crime.

Given the amount of foreign business executives that he's met with either on his own, or through is son. I'd have to say that's a strong no in my opinion.

Well isn't this cute, you finally learned how to pull up a decent link. It only took several months of trying to repeatedly beat such a premise into you.

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Now as to what Wald can't put his own finger on, as to why Jews vote democrat to such a degree. He did mention something interesting. The conversation gave way to the exact same lie that had been told by the left, and unfortunately Wald should've called Shere on it.

Even prominent Jewish conservatives, such as William Kristol, the late Charles Krauthammer, and New York Times columnist Bret Stephens did not support Trump. In fact, they were at the vanguard of the Never Trump movement. As Wald notes, Trump's language about illegal immigrants from Mexico and his initial hesitancy to reject the support of white supremacist figures, such as David Duke, gave Jews serious pause.

Unfortunately, Wald was not on the ball at this point in the conversation. Which even goes on the mention Steve Bannon, who despite all of the things being said about him in the media. None of it was actually ever proven, nor did that ever make it more of an issue.

As for what I stated:

https://insidesources.com/as-attacks-continue-will-democrats-confront-their-anti-semitism-problem/

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https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/11/house-democrats-ilhan-omar-antisemitism- 1163728

Still, you did try so that does deserve some recognition. However you need to stay on the ball here. I did not say that the people voting for the democrats have the problem with anti-Semitism. It was the democrats who're in power themselves.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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And there goes excon, once again behaving like a scolded child.

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Let me know when you discover the difference between speaking fact, and opinion. Then you might be able to stand with everyone else here on that same ground of debate.

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But as it sits, you'd done barely little more than spew out the same repeated lies that keep getting you laughed at.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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So an occupying force did seize the capital building?

Strange, one would think that such an occurrence would be prime time news, but all we got was a riot and nothing more.

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Attempting to push lies that can easily be debunked by a simple google search will only get you laughed at, excon.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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Let's all hope that excon eventually realizes that today's leftist are very much like the Nazis, save for some small caveats.

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But as it goes, we can just look at places like New York and the kind of political practices that have hit the Jewish community, run by the likes of Bill de Blasio. Jewish communities were being targeted for discrimination during much of the pandemic, and now they're being openly beaten in the streets.

So most of us just rolled our eyes when he came out with that whole "hate does not belong here" speech, in response to these attacks.

Once again, this is just another instance where the left is more hypocritical on it's own terms.

This is just something that they don't care for, nor do they really intend to let it stop. Mainly being that it helps with their own reasons for supplying war in the east, and we already know that under Biden. It's most likely going to be the case that the US is funneling support into to both sides of this conflict.

This also isn't helped by the fact that many of the left's most prominent figures, or even just some of the most verdant members in their base. Are all insanely fervent anti-Semites. Much like when we discovered most of the women's march leaders back in 2017 had all been guilty of posting some rather disgusting material on social media. As well as the likes of AOC, Ilhan Omar, and many more.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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But, Israel's indiscriminate bombing of Gaza is killing indiscriminately..

Good to see that you're just as prominent with the lies here, as you were in your last few attempts. Hell, one of their methods for warning civilians of imminent bombings is literally called roof knocking.

So your attempted lie at calling it "indiscriminate" is already found out to be just that, a lie.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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Given the fact that one could barely call it a Jewish state, surrounded on nearly all sides by entities that would rather see them destroyed. I highly doubt you have any idea what "history" actually entails here, or else you would've actually taken the time to try and mention it in your post. Yet all you can apparently do is belittle someone as being wrong, without actually proving them to be wrong, and then proceed to keep your tail tucked in the topic at hand.

So here's your chance excon. What history are you actually going to try and bring up here?

We did examine it, Antifa did their best to try and take over a federal courthouse. And even with the acceptance of the local democrats, they still failed miserably.

Though one could barely call it a coup.

Unfortunately, I've got to point out that this is nothing but a racist move on her part. It's something that we see and a universal truth, that if you discriminate against someone based on something as simple as their race, that we can easily call it out. Point of interest being is that she called out some sort of racial inequality. Yet she did not seem to notice that the office had multiple female, and even non-white female reporters already.

So it looks more like she's doing something that's just abhorrently racist, and attempting to hide that fact behind some other measure.

One only wishes that some of these countries would experience their own cultural revolutions. Toss out their dictators, and go back to some form of civility/normalcy.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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Telling it straight?

So what's it like being caught in yet another lie?

Change is inevitable, just as was stated before. But this indication from your OP makes it seem like the US is doing nothing at all. Which is an illogical stance to take, all things considered. Seeing as the US is doing more than enough in most instances. That, or we're simply stuck asking that some of these other countries that keep crying for handouts from us. To simply take responsibility and fix these issues themselves.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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So you're content to simple remain behaving like a child?

First and foremost this is nothing new. We already knew that Biden was prone to this sort of thing from back when he was still going through office, on Obama's ticket. Now he's just front and center on the stage and it's going to be a lot harder for his people/supporters to hide.

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This comes along with the same hearsay that any public figure attracts, but in instances like this. It's something that we know to be true, all things considered.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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You would have to supply proof that those people are in fact fascist. Something that Trump's opponents failed to do, on a constant basis.

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As for someone's supporters on the other hand, it's already a fallacy to someone lob them into the mix on even a slight justification. Because no political figure actually has the power to dictate who follows, or even fully supports them.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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Once again, trying to spread lies that you have no proof of actually happening. Is only a good approach when want others to view you as a joke.

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But by all means, you do you.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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Apparently you're the only one who things Trump is still in office. Seeing as you keep attempting to remind people of something that is largely public knowledge. Maybe you should take it easy on your own brand of Kool-Aid at this point.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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Once again, you're blaming someone who's not even in the drivers seat, and you're doing so with no evidence to support your harebrained claims. Seeing as the group that's done this is only based somewhere in, or even near Russia. Was more than enough information to make you start spitting out the same canned nonsense.

Unfortunately, I do have to point out that some colleges most likely do propose this in their critical race theory courses.

It's profoundly idiotic yes, but it's something that such people are going to do.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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Same ill spread misinformation, is still nothing more than just that.

No, seeing as the act itself is more akin to overacting, and making a show of things. Than even being disgusted/upset by something for that matter.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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Seeing as Cuomo himself is responsible for what appears to be over 15k deaths due to his own personal actions.

I'd have to argue that you're wrong on the whole "They're stopping deaths" argument.

You're also bringing up the same irresponsible media, while forgetting just how much they've been allied with the democrats all through the pandemic.

So I don't think you have any right in calling anyone an idiot at this point.

Speaking as a black man, I would have to agree with you on that one. There are still places where tribesmen kill bald me, and search their heads for gold. Because that is where bald men are said to hide it.. (rubs head)..

I like my head being intact thank you very much.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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It's rather cute that you're calling my opinion misguided and worthless, when your opinion does not mesh with reality. Such as I've already pointed out. You stated clearly untrue views about the black community. Now the aspect of them being a malicious lie, or just an aspect of you not knowing. Is something that is most likely going to remain unknown to the rest of us here.

As to the topic at hand, neither group owes the other anything other then the common curtseys that everyone is to be afforded.

There have been several suggestions here.

One could believe that it's because they are just too scared to attempt the move forward. While others think it could be their way of keeping control for their part, just like what we've seen in some places like California & New York.

Well I admit that being high sort of makes some actions better, but I doubt that it's a requirement.

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On a serious note, one should not take advice from a book like the bible.. any version of it for that matter. We're talking about a text that is mostly claimed to be the word of god, and it declares that when the end times arrives. The stars shall fall from the heavens and physically land on the earth.. just by writing that. That person proved that they did not know what stars actually were. That and the vast multitude of other issues the bible has are a definite reason to not take anything it says, all that seriously.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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Pointing out just how incorrect your viewpoint is, does not make for an "unhealthy obsession". It must means that I'm pointing out a viewpoint that is blatantly incorrect.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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Not really, seeing as this is the first time Mongele's even used that phrase and I find it highly suspect that they just so happen to come out of the blue and do so, after you mention it. Especially with the lack of such a phrase in all of the previous interactions I've had with them, as well as the the other post I've seen.

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So now I'm starting to suspect that Mongele is just an alt account for you, and given the activity rating that would be highly probable.

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Now are you done cowering away from the actual topic of the thread, or are you still intent on continuing this idiotic game?

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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Not really a viewpoint that served anything constructive on your part. Seeing as the country has a workforce of those in the black community, who apply themselves and contribute their share daily. So you're opinion that they somehow weren't ready is pretty much just an opinion and nothing more.

You also have no room in describing anyone else as sanctimonious.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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Something tells me that this account is just a parody of someone at this point. That, or you take yourself far too seriously.

We saw more than a fair amount of this in the early days of the pandemic. These people may be experts, but their decision/suggestions are still adjusted by the opinions that each of them might not even share. It was the same when Fauci was stuck flipping in between supporting the use of mask as a standard practice, but ultimately as just a secondary item. To outright stating that mask should always be worn at all times when you were out of your house.

In the most simplest of measures, no. No one really owes anyone in this instance.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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If you can't point him out, then that most likely means that such a poster doesn't exist, or you can't actually sell this kind of story reliably with avoiding the necessary caveats.

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And that still doesn't help the fact that you are doing your best to avoid the actual topic at hand, and deflect to something else that has no standing on the here and now.

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Actually give the correct name for this poster, or supply a link to their face page. If not then you're kindly invited to take these idiotic deflections and fuck off.

This is a bit disingenuous, seeing as the point of having a debate forum for this kind of thing. Is supposed to be representative of two separate views. One supporting the stance of the OP, and the other offering some form of opposition to it's stance.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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Who is Bongo Boy, because I can't find anyone matching that name on the site.

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So yes, you're completely fine with inhumane atrocities being committed on a people. Who've actually done nothing to warrant this kind of treatment, save for just "being" Muslim.

That's pretty sick of you to admit to such a thing.

I honestly hope no one pops up in your home with the same validation, and takes that same ignorance out on your family.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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Yet you've already excused China's government, and agreed with their treatment of these people. As dealing with a problem or some other trite excuse that suits your fancy.

But now you actually want proof, despite revealing yourself to be complicit.

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You should have done that from the beginning and not risked revealing yourself in the process.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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You're willing to allow such inhumane treatment of innocent people, all because of what a fraction of their population does.. and you have the balls to tell someone else to stick to facts.

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That's absolutely laughable.

But here, you wanted something at the very least.

http://www.muhajabah.com/otherscondemn.php

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Then again, it's obvious that you're completely fine with such gross mistreatment of both women and children, because of your anti-Muslim tendencies.

On their free time, yes. However when it comes time for class, then the teacher needs to ensure that all of their students are accounted for, and paying attention.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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So that is a yes.

You completely support the rape, butchering, and other outright atrocities. Forced upon a people who have done nothing to deserve it, aside from being a minority.

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You're also wrong on the topic of Muslims doing nothing, as many have come up from both Asia and even the UK, to protest this kind of thing.

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All you're doing is using the actions performed by a fraction of one group, to justify the horrible actions taken against those who have done nothing of the sort. For which many of them have tried to fight back, or at least challenge the system that is oppressing them.

But I think you can guess how difficult it is the challenge a system as oppressive as China's, can't you?

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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So let's get this straight. You're okay with committing acts of inhumane abuse, on a people who have done nothing and are as of now still innocent. All because they share a racial trait, and not even an ideological one?

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Because these people are not Islamic terrorist.

And here are with China forcibly sterilizing males, raping females, forcibly harvesting organs for profit. And who know what else they're doing to the children of these people, other then putting them through forced loyalty programs and ripping them away from their parents.

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Is this really the horse you want to bet on?

I don't think you've gotten the message that you're the primary one saying stupid things about immigration.

If that person wants to move to the country in which you live and just so happens to want to live in your house, they're still seeking their own life and their own freedom. Something that you supposedly support, despite how little you know about the concept of borders, boundaries, and national sovereignty.

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If you don't believe in boundaries, or even the simple concept of having borders remain closed in this manner. Then how can you expect someone to respect the concept of you having your own home, and not attempting to take it from you.

Hell given the political climate, we've seen the government move American citizens from their own living areas in places like New Mexico and use it for the housing of newer immigrants. So at any moment the government could just say fuck you, and toss you out of your own home. Despite how rare of an instance this might be.

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You're also forgetting that these people are looking for new lives and new opportunities. Which means they will take such a job as smuggling, because it will get them the money that they require for that new life. So they are still immigrating here to the states, despite committing a crime in the process.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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It's rather funny that you're calling someone else out for responding with some stupidity.

I take it that you have no idea what irony actually is at this point.

Now this is somewhat of a obtuse matter, but it goes to show you that Florida's government probably had a better method of care. While they also didn't have to deal with some of the same cramped conditions that NY's inner city areas did.

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But we already know that both NY's mayor and governor, apparently did what they could to make the issue worse. When the pandemic was just starting they told their people to ignore the current administrations guidelines, and Cuomo did his best to ship as many Covid+ individuals into situations where they could infect the most people. And these people turned out to be senior citizens, so you already know how that was going to end.

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Hell the mayor apparently did his best to target minority communities with his own lockdown practices. So he hasn't garnered much support from them in the past two years.

https://www.reuters.com/article/china-cotton-forced-labour-trfn/china-accused-of-forcing-570000-people-to-pick-cotton-in-xinjiang-idUSKBN28P2CM

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/nz0g306v8c/china-tainted-cotton

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We already know that China has been performing some rather disgusting treatments on the Uighur community. Anything and everything from sterilization of the men, to forced breeding (aka. Rape) of their females, so they could introduce Chinese genetics into their communities.

We've seen drone footage of them being blindfolded, loaded onto trains, and then shipped off to god knows where.

Are you really going to sit there and agree with this kind of thing?

You do realize that a good reason why these people are being forced into this kind of slave labor, is because of their race and not because they've actually done anything wrong, correct?

Not to mention that it's a definite possibility that many of these people are going to be worked to death, because Chines government has already shown that they don't actually care for these people's lives.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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I've been meaning to ask this by the way, and I know that excon isn't going to give an answer.

Who the hell is Bongo Boy?

The issue here is that excon isn't going to do it anyway. This is the same person who can't even be asked to answer a simple question, and who can't even address a single topic without playing at their own idiotic games.

Unfortunately for the left, this is just another window into how they truly feel about those that they perceive as less than themselves. They only condemn racism and discrimination, but when the light is all green. They quickly jump on the exact same kind of actions and tirades that they seem to hate from the right.

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This is the exact kind of thing that we saw in Portland and Kenosha. Rioters came out in protest of police and what did we see when the majority of those officers were none white. We got to see crowds of left-wing protestors from both Antifa and BLM flinging everything from racial slurs to obscenities at them for most of the night.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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Yet instead of actually condemning what has happened, which would actually be part of the discussion at hand. You decided to deflect to someone who I'm not even sure is actually on this site anymore, nor really has a connection to anyone else. Which going by your fever in avoiding it, you must actually have some stance that closely realms on agreeing on him being the target of a racial slur for nearly two full days. By in large by a vast majority of people just like yourself.

People who would outwardly say that they condemn bad actions done against another person, but rationalize clearly racist attacks against a state senator as justified...

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In all honesty, you shouldn've addressed the topic of the discussion and not attempted to deflect in such a poor manner.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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I don't see anyone here named bongo boy, so this is just another instance of you avoiding the actual topic of the debate.

Well the prospect on it's face alone does not denote being anti immigrant, it just means that you most likely value the upholding up this law's standard use. It just means that you want whoever comes into the country, to do so by the standards set forward by our government, as our right in being a sovereign country.

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Many people sought that same measure over the last decade. Though it would not be incorrect to suspect a small minority of people who actually were anti-immigrant. Such deviation from the norm is typically normal despite being such a small number.

It was interesting to see that many of the people who were so vocal about this issue, were in fact immigrants themselves. Though you'll find a lack of their representation in regional/national media on this issue, for obvious reasons.

So, every country that requires you to enter through a legal point of entry is kinda xenophobic?

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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It's good to see that you support things like the child sex trade.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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I think Portland went over 100 days with near continuous rioting, back when they were attacking the federal building.

DrChamberlin(145) Clarified
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You know, I should laugh at the hypocrisy of this. After several weeks of asking you for your own evidence, and you repeatedly tucking your tail in response to them. Then again this is you that I'm talking about, so it should be no real surprise to anyone who's aware of you're previous behavior. - But okay, lets see you tuck tail again. Either way, I'll be merciful and start off small for your sake.

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/31/americans-killed-protests-political-unrest-acled

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https://fee.org/articles/george-floyd-riots-caused-record-setting-2-billion-in-damage-new-report-says-here-s-why-the-true-cost-is-even-higher/

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/06/01/george-floyd-protests-riots-minneapolis- small-businesses/5300736002/


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