@Amarel

you keep using the word legal and legally but laws are created by governments and governments are the opposite of freedom which is what you claim to promote. You cannot have power without corruption.

The final system will be based on unlimited resources.

There will always be scarcity in some capacity, but the thing is the necessities of life can be made available to everyone if we approach it on a technical basis rather than within the framework of our current system which creates artificial scarcity because even when there are resources you can't have them unless you can pay for them. The way that we use resources in capitalist societies is retarded because we are giving yachts to people like Kim Kardashian (who's very existence is proof that capital has nothing to do with merit or hard work in many cases) while children starve in the streets because they where born into poverty and people can't afford decent healthcare. If you think the rich kids are entitled to their yachts just for being born then why aren't poor children entitled to food and health care? Because capitalism has it's priorities entirely backwards and is fundamentally flawed.

Socialism might be great if we had unlimited resources and an infallable leader.

The thing you don't realize is that socialism doesn't require unlimited resources as I've just demonstrated and it doesn't require a leader. My philosophy is that ideally people themselves wouldn't actually be making decisions (meaning people in positions of authority or people making decisions democratically, on a personal level people would still be free to do what they want) but rather decisions would be arrived at through methodology. There would be no leader in my way of doing things, there would only be the method of coming to fair and logical conclusions. In that way we would be governed by reason itself, not by an institution or the opinions of individuals.

I understand BUILDINGS,

Wrong, people who understand architecture understand buildings, not businessmen and investors. Trump has a lot of buildings, but he's not the one who built them, he just profited off their existence and the work that others put into them.

wanna know WHO paid for it, and HOW they paid for it..

None of that matters without people who actually know how to BUILD buildings you fucking IDIOT. Or, maybe there's no buildings in your magic land where social constructs are more real than actual things and investors are the ones who produce things rather than the people who produce them for the investors.

My STRONG back is he capital??

The only thing that is strong about you is your strong tendency to say things that are completely fucking retarded.

I dunno if capitalism is the best system or not..

You just said it was the best system by saying "yes" when I asked you if it was the final and ultimate system.

if we didn't have capitalists, where does the capital come from???

That is literally a retarded question. It's like asking "if we didn't have dogs, where would we get our dog food?". Only it's even worse, because at least dog food is a real physical thing, whereas capital is a social construct which exists to fuel another social construct called capitalism.

Without capital, how does the gold come out of the ground and become "capital"?

Gold is for electrical devices, space craft and medical implants. Those are it's real scientific uses, what you are talking about is using it to represent a social construct. On top of that America's monetary system is not based on gold, it is based on fiat currency backed by debt and oil.

If the government has the capital, where did they get it??

There is no government or capital, those things where made up by humans. They cannot exist in the real final ultimate system because that system would be based on objective reason and scientific methodology.

@Nom

I wish I could upvote you ten times with one account right now.

Yes.

Now, fetch this stick..

Primitive fool. You think the ultimate system is something that was made up by people who derived it from a social context of tyranny and superstition. Why would a type one civilization use a system that was made up by dumb apes who believed in talking snakes and angels and where just barely starting to figure out that putting spoiled brats who where born into wealth and power merely due to being born into the right family into positions of dictatorial authority (monarchy) is not such a good idea? They wouldn't because it's unscientific and based in superstitious beliefs (social constructs).

@AlofRI

It's objectively true that the best system is basically a mixture between Marxism, Technocracy, Meritocracy and Anarcho-socialism AKA a Resource Based Economy.

Again, right on the money.

As in correct about the money when I say it's an anachronistic social construct that causes us to use our planet's resources in unwise ways which only benefit those who play the game of capitalism well (as opposed to those who play the game of actually producing things) or are given wealth by a lucky roll of the dice. We have a system that resembles a type of game that puts all the resources and decision making power in the hands of those who play the made up game well rather than those who actually understand the real world. Business men and politicians generally do not know anything real, everything they have been trained to deal with consists of the workings of a conceptual fabric of ideas which at it's core is designed to impress the values and interests of those who weaved them into society.

I don't believe that any economic system can be inherently evil in and of itself, but capitalism certainly incentivises and rewards the doing of evil by the very nature of its overemphasis on individual power and wealth.

Yes. Capitalism and the monetary system are not some kind of conspiracy or evil scheme, but a natural outgrowth of scarcity and the barter system. They are nonetheless inherently flawed both for the reason you stated and also because they are unscientific and there is often a conflict between what is best for the economy or business and what is best in the real physical world. Not to mention what Jacque Fresco said about his experience during the great depression. We still had all the resources, operational machines in the factory etc. but people where starving and production was halting all because of some conceptual point system that humans made up.

These people argue in defence of tyranny because the only definition they have ever been given of freedom was provided by tyrants.

Yes. I think that the whole idea that authority is necessary in the first place came about for similar reasons, but it is also somewhat of a self fulfilling prophesy because people are not conditioned to come to valid conclusions on their own in many instances. The problem arises from having a society where people make decisions rather than arriving at them through methodology and reason, thus we entrust certain people to make decisions rather than having a society where everyone is trained to be able to arrive at decisions that can be universally agreed on because they are objectively logical.

Anyone who supports capitalism doesn't understand capitalism, either that or they are a shortsighted sociopath who only cares about themselves. The only reason these ass holes say Marx didn't understand capitalism is because he pointed out how stupid and evil it is. Arguing against socialism and in favour of capitalism is no different than arguing against democracy in favour of monarchy, they are just retarded robots who want to keep things as they are allegedly "supposed to be" rather than improving society.

You cannot engineer a culture without a stronghold on media and influence on young schoolchildren via regulating public education.

I disagree, culture is emergent not something to be forced. People need to organically understand things in order to truly understand them, indoctrination and socially constructed codes of behaviour enforced by authority lead to a weak behavioural foundation which makes it easier for people to act destructively if they think they can get away with it. But when they understand based on objective reason why civility is rational, more productive and mutually beneficial they will have no desire to go against the fabric of society. Understanding is the fabric of society.

The Illuminati are necessary to achieve utopia

There is no utopia. Utopia implies stagnation and perfection, there is no such thing as perfection and stagnation will eventually lead to decline.

they are not the obstacle you think.

The Illuminati are a metaphor or an "umbrella term" for the people who take advantage of the masses ignorance instead of trying to mitigate it. They include extreme capitalists, hereditary nobility, intelligence agencies, and pretty much governments and large corporations and banks etc. in general. Anyone who claims to have power over others, to own industries or be inherently entitled to more than others by birthright is basically a manifestation of the Illuminati archetype.

In anarchy all are free to be as they are naturally without limitation or organisation, let alone conditioning.

conditioning comes from culture and environment. organisation comes from co-operation.

You can't condition them without oligarchy.

Wrong. It all comes down to having a truly sane culture and the proper education techniques. When you use force you are not uplifting humanity so it knows what it should do, you are forcing it to do what you think it should do, and even if you are right the public will just be robots following your command. That is no way to have an adaptable civilization where people are able to make good decisions on their own.

Thank you for pointing out how an-com defeats itself as long as it's humans in the system.It mostly just depends on the conditioning of the humans and the level of scarcity but there is always a fundamental risk and tendency for humans to do something evil and/or retarded.

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I am going to have bronto's baby.

Instead of dicking around with your alt accounts why don't you work on realizing that I'm not trying to plagiarise your shit and I just wanted to find your work.

Capitalist tribes wiped out communist ones and never again ever has 'true communism' existed since the original 'share everything' tribes were demolished by the superior ones.

It's not quite that simple. Rather than it being a matter of natural selection it was more a result of the entropic principle. That is, it is simply easier and more likely for corruption and ignorance to take hold then for societies to remain "innocent" as it where. It has much more to do with the social fabric rotting from the inside out and succumbing to a concentration and consolidation of information, wealth, and power in the hands of the few.The so called "communists" of the prehistoric world where usually those who lived in relative abundance and scarcity is a big part of why capitalism emerged.

I don't know that still.

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I think you meant to say "technological"

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He is a sociopath, he doesn't process honesty or trust.

Maybe you're right, because it's clearly illogical for me to plagiarise him (when he in fact probably plagiarised the material in the first place) just to show it off to him like some kind of idiot. The real and obvious reason I showed him is because I wanted to find out if it was his or not because I was looking for his material.

Right. And you found all these copies of my article by typing "British socialist journalism 9/11 inside job" into a search engine.

That was my first search, where I found the initial article. After I told you that I then pasted the whole damn article into a search engine and found the same exact article on several different sites.

Then stop being a lying prick and tell me how you found the article, why you messaged me about it, and how you knew I wrote it despite it not having a byline.

Dude, I am literally being completely honest with you I have found several other sites with the same article after I put the whole thing in the search engine (which I didn't do the first time). I already told you why I messaged you about it, I was trying to get you to confirm if it was yours. I did this by PM because if in fact it was yours, I knew you probably wouldn't want it revealed to the whole site. But I am under the impression you didn't write it originally because it is on several different sites.

I have found several more websites with the same exact article by the way. It's practically all over the internet.

And if you own the website I'll file a complaint with the DMCA. I can prove I wrote that content.

Don't be a retard.

OK cool. If you want to be a prick I'll just write to the website.

Whatever you say you tranny humping knob head.

Yes you are. There is no possible scenario in which you are not lying to me.

I really am telling the truth. What would I have to gain by lying about this? What I was trying to do was find something written by you on the internet, which is why I pmed you the link to confirm if it was yours or not.

This is impossible without knowing who I am.

Apparently not.

Don't make me lose the small amount of respect I have accumulated for you over recent days.

Don't make me search for more than just your journalism.

The only way you could have run any type of search is with the content itself, in which case you prove yourself halfway guilty (i.e. you copied the content).

Apparently not.

That's literally retarded. Shut up.

That's literally what happened. It was surprisingly easy to find that. I actually suspect that it isn't even your work and you actually plagiarised it.

Could you do me a favour and stop pretending you don't know how it got there? I'm not angry, just so long as nobody else tries to take credit for writing it.

I'm not lying to you. I was looking for your work, not posting it on websites just to lie to you and say I found your work. If I did post it myself then I would know that you automatically would know that it's not somewhere that you put it and that someone plagiarised it so it would be pointless to show it to you.

You copied it from this site and posted it on another one I'm guessing.

I literally typed "british socialist journalist 9/11 inside job" into my search engine and found that.

You don't even know my name. How could you be looking for my journalism?

By typing keywords into a search engine that might lead me to it.

Is it just one of those sites where anybody can upload content?

It doesn't appear that way.

No, I'm saying you plagiarised it.

How on earth did I do that?

I couldn't find much info about the website. What is it?

I don't know, I was searching on the internet to try and find your journalism and I came across that. It appears to just be a news/journalism site.

Not sure how I feel about having my content plagiarised though. You're supposed to ask permission first.

Are you saying that website plagiarised your material? Wow.

@Nom

I know you don't usually respond to PMs but this time you might want to. Check out what I found.

You're a walrus spooning spaktardicus. The US economy hit it's height by molesting third world countries for their resources. Second of all the opposite of what you say is true, humans naturally live in tribes and villages where they share resources and have no concept of money. All of this shit was socially constructed and made up as we went along.

But he was an intellectual though. But you sit in your moms basement jerking off to obese transexual midgets though while wearing your moms panties.

Shall we start taking things out of context again and chewing hard rice.

don't read or watch either. I know because they used to teach this thing called history.

You know who understood history? Marx. That's how he came up with the theory that societies become more socialist progressively as they advance.

Well, many of these so-called "building blocks" have been discovered by physicists already.

Yes, and when we get into the technical details of how these things work we are having a considerable amount of trouble. We end up with point particles that are waves when you're not looking at them and appear to be in multiple places at once. That of course, is a more simplified way of putting it but our understanding of subatomic particles is none the less confused. I think what we are missing is a unified field theory in the literal sense, as in a theory that views the universe as one unified field. When you no longer quantify everything as an independent body on the quantum level the particles will no longer appear to behave in paradoxical ways because when a particle would appear to telaport or travel along multiple trajectories simultaneously in the current standard model, we would understand that this is nothing more than the ebb and flow of the unified field causing certain frequencies of oscillation to pop up in certain places.

If memory serves, one dimensional strings are indeed theorised to oscillate.

Yes. I think it is more logical to view the universe in the context of fields being fundamental rather than the particles or strings themselves.

I don't understand what you mean by "different modalities". Can you explain further?

I mean that the field takes on certain sets of properties as it warps in various ways due to it's natural decline from uniformity resulting in the effects of the four fundamental forces and their respective sets of associated fields and particles.

@Conservanazi

You are right, but one thing I have brought up a few times is the fundamental assumption that physical reality consists of some form of quantifiable "building block" such as strings or particles. I suspect that these things are not separate and singular but merely oscillations in a field and that the universe consists of one fundamental field that is split into different modalities. If this is the case, then mathematics cannot ultimately describe our reality on a fundamental level.

How can you say I am "sucked in by capitalists" when I post AGAINST capitalism all the time!

You aren't against capitalism, you're for limiting it with state regulation.

This is an OPINION site

This is a debate site, and the mere use of the word opinion offends me. For me, debate is about arguing it out until both parties understand the actual truth, not about bickering back and forth with vacuous subjective opinions.

I have a right to my opinion.

When people say that all I hear is "I have the right to be objectively incorrect and try to justify it by personalizing and owning my stupidity with the word opinion".

My opinion is that capitalism has its place, capitalism CAN be good

Something either works or it doesn't in real life, if something is good then it's fucking good, if you knew what you where talking about you wouldn't be whining about opinions.

Capitalists and their lobbyists are destroying America WITH uncontrolled capitalism!

Then become a real socialist like me and Nom and stop supporting the system.

VOTE THEM OUT!

Voting will do you no good when it's the same uncontrolled capitalist activity that decides who gets into the fucking white house. The whole system needs to be uprooted.

t is already understood that the modern methods of Mathematics are superior in finding out what is "true" or "false"--however, unlike science, Math is entirely internal and not at all dependent on the external world

That's why I think our current understanding of things is skewed by an over-reliance on mathematics. Math can work well for solving physical problems but it can also lead one to contrive a system of physical mechanics based upon the false assumption that what you have factored into the equation physically exists. For example if you write an equation with the relative location of certain objects within 3 dimensional space, the 3 dimensions appear in the equation as X Y and Z, and thus they are just as "physical" as the objects themselves according to the math. But for all we know only the objects themselves exist in physical reality and the concept of space being an actual physical construct is contrived entirely from our reliance on math.

Amarel you are retarded. There is no legitimate left in American politics.

Well con. The Marxist socialists

But everything you've heard about Marxist Socialists you heard from Alex Jones and thefederalist.com so how can you possibly even know what they advocate?

What is bronto? What is nom?

Bronto is a religious nutjob and neo-con capitalist dickhead. He is also a liar and a zionist.

Nom is a person who isn't retarded.

Nom came from the Andramoda Galaxy, where males are the females in the relationship.

You arrived in a flying saucer from the interplanetary capitalist confederacy of insanely dishonest space Jews.

monopolizes the media with mass propaganda

Are you aware that monopolies are the direct result of capitalism and/or the state both of which Socialist Marxist wanker doodles like us want to eliminate?

Dorothy Day

W E B Du Bois

Amiri Baraka (formerly LeRoi Jones; poet, playwright)

Eugene V. Debs (union organizer, socialist organizer)

Norman Thomas

Mother Jones

John Dos Passos

Audre Lorde

Robert Owen (utopian)

Michael Harrington (author of "The Other America", preeminent socialist)

H G Wells

Frank Zeidler (former mayor of Milwaukee)

Darlington Hoopes

Alexander Cockburn (writer for the Nation, and formerly for the Wall

Street Journal)

Adolph Reed (writer for the Progressive, various others)

Harry Houdini

Doug Henwood ("Left Business Observer", radio commentator)

Manning Marable (professor of Afro-American studies at Columbia)

Angela Davis (professor of Philosophy at U Cal-Berkeley, a Reagan

frame-up survivor)

A Phillip Randolph (union leader)

Martin Buber (philosopher, "Paths in Utopia")

L Frank Baum (author, "The Wizard of Oz")

Cornel West

Jean-Paul Sartre (French existentialist)

Adrienne Rich

Kwame Toure (formerly Stokely Carmichael, SNCC dir., Black Panthers

founder)

E P Thompson

Raymond Williams

Rosa Luxemburg

Bill Veeck (former Chicago White Sox owner)

Art Spiegelman (author/illustrator of "Maus")

Stephen Jay Gould (scientist)

Malcom X

George Bernard Shaw

Dmitri Shostakovich (Soviet composer)

Marie Curie (French scientist)

Robert Oppenheimer

Al Lewis (Grandpa on "The Munsters")

C L R James

Richard Feynman

Ed Asner (American actor)

Antonio Gramsci (Italian intellectual)

Edward Bellamy (author of "Looking Backward")

Sinclair Lewis (American author)

John Lennon

Charlie Chaplin

Frances Fox Piven (American sociologist)

Lincoln Steffens

Lillian Hellman (American playwright)

Oscar Ameringer (author, lecturer)

Upton Sinclair

Dashiell Hammet (American author)

Barbara Ehrenreich (American essayist)

Irving Howe

Isaac Asimov

Ron Dellums

Woody Guthrie (folk singer)

Major Owens (US Representative)

Patrick Stewart (Captain Picard on "Star Trek: TNG")

Bernie Sanders (US Representative)

Dorothy Parker (American author)

Bayard Rustin

Karl Marx

Paul Robeson (American actor)

Pete Seeger (folk singer)

Freidrich Engels

John Stuart Mill

Georg Lucacs (Hungarian intellectual)

Juergen Habermas (German philosopher)

Coleman A. Young (former mayor of Detroit)

Nina Hartley (adult film actor)

Sid Peck (organizer during Vietnam War period)

Arthur Kinoy (civil rights attorney)

Dr George Wald

Howard Zinn (historian)

Dr Michio Kaku

Muhammad Ahmad (formerly Max Stanford)

Assata Shakur

Annette Rubenstein

Bogdan Denitch

Charlene Mitchell (a leader of the Committees of Correspondence)

J Quinn Brisben

Sam Friedman

Niilo Koponen (Alaskan public figure)

Staughton Lynd

Alice Lynd

Barbara Garson

Clancy Sigal (writer)

Dorothy Healey

John Reed (journalist, "Ten Days that Shook the World")

Gurley Flynn

Bertell Ollman

Kari Kubby

Sid Lens (labor organizer, writer, leader in peace movement)

Deborah Meier (well known in NYC area as a great school principal)

George Orwell (born Eric Blair, author of "1984", "Animal Farm", etc...)

Bertrand Russell

Michael Moore (professional prankster)

Carl Sandburg

Charles Steinmetz (American engineer)

Gil Green (a hero of the Spanish Civil War)

Herbert Aptheker

Grace Paley

William Morris (British poet, designer, essayist, critic, and organizer)

Oscar Wilde (British playwright, poet, essayist, satirist)

Vachel Lindsay (American poet)

Henry George (economist)

Will Geer (Grandpa on "The Waltons")

John Sayles (filmmaker)

James Farmer (CORE)

Max Eastman

Crystal Eastman

Abraham Cahan

I like having sex with animals

It's best to keep that kind of thing to yourself, Bronto.

I would tranquilize it and bring it to the vet after I put on some gloves and drag it into a cage. Then I would bring it home and keep it.

The leftists claiming to be poor have more and easier lives than kings of the past.

The right wingers of the present have more lies in stock than the egyptians had grain and the vikings had women tied up, waiting to be molested.

You mean you lean backwards towards pre-medeival mythology and superstition.

Same.

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RAAAAAR I AM MAD THAT SOME PEOPLE THINK BEING STUPID IS OKAY

Yes we all know stupidity is a good thing. If we didn't accept the stupid there would be no room for people who believe the flat earth is made of numbers.

Stay mad, I'm superior in my calm.

How so? Calm does not make you correct, it doesn't make you superior, it makes you nothing. Anger on the other hand is what keeps people from succumbing to domestication.

You are a very emotional

Stopped reading after that. I knew from that point that it would be nothing but a string of adhoms and accusations based on nothing but your own personal disdain for people who aren't pussies and unscientific retards.

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In Origami.

Kajukenbo black belt. It's true.

Stupidity is a lesser evil to combat than laziness

It depends entirely on the context. Also if you are really stupid and not lazy it simply allows you to do stupid things more rapidly. The reason why you say this is because you are a Templar and you wouldn't mind having an unthinking, compliant hoard of zombies for a citizenry as long as they serve you well. Pretty much all the worlds problems are due to stupidity. It's why we elect shitty people who make shitty decisions, it's why the public allows your Templar brothers to manipulate and use them, and it's why we rely on social constructs and superstitions rather than reason.

Your issue with 'stupidity' is some personal issue

No, if you don't think stupidity is a problem then you are part of the problem.

the irony is that you get so emotional and 'oh disgusting I can't stand it' while preaching objectivity and reason.

It's better than being disgusted by freedom and science.

A very left-leaning but fundamentally capitalist society is the ideal

We don't need an unscientific social construct getting in the way of what is truly efficient and logical. There are countless ways that money can cause people to do things that make a lot of sense in a conceptual monetary economy but are really, really stupid in real life.

Your "meat" is just a little inch worm that wiggles back into it's hole when it gets cold.

Here we have another Marxist preaching Marxist concepts who is ashamed to say he's a Marxist. Hmmm..

Slavedevice is a National Socialist.

The ones that do that are not part of the OWO.

Are you referring to the Old World Order or did you make a mistake here?

Not all rich people are in the organisation.

I know that but all the ones at the very top are.

Fiora herself

I already explained why it's nonsensical to refer to this RNG as a female entity. Femaleness is not a creative property on it's own because it is part of a binary (for lack of a better word) system. The male and female can only create by interacting with eachother, so how the bloody wanker balls does this make any sense? If the RNG exists it's both male and female, or even more accurately it's neither because it's a quantum computer running an algorithm rather than a biological organism that needs to have gender or sexual reproduction.

you only win if you work with the system against those currently overpowering you within it.

But if you work within the system, the system will only consume your true agenda and shit out a mere heavily debased replica. That may work for shorter term goals which are not totally outside the matrix of bullshit but only a small shift in the incremental process of de-shitafying human society, but when you do that trying to change the whole world it's the whole world that will water you down into the depths of the primordial swamp of bullshit.

If you analyse Trump's temperament, it's almost identical to your own.

I disagree, I am like a vicious hyena that was born into a pool of liquid rabies, he is just a standard ass hole.

but 'we' do not hurt each other.

Yes you do, just in a passive aggressive polite way.

The one world order is the only group that never ever harms each other's interests

Yes they do, the multinational bankers and corporations and governments that are part of the NWO back stab and cheat each other.

one of your maniacs

Do you still not realize what side I'm on? I do not have any "maniacs" and I don't have a side to begin with. I am completely transcended above any of this, neither a nationalist nor a NWO agent. The only people who are on my "side" are people like Jacque Fresco and Nicola Tesla.

Now that I have realised that the alien demigods are Illuminati and not against them, a lot is becoming clearer to me.

Even if that where true, I cannot believe it, because I cannot believe anything. I can only know and speculate, it is irrational to have beliefs and opinions. There is no way to know objectively whether it is actually true, but I strongly suspect that it is not.

You are the one who said I should be cut up and fed to my family

I can only take so many passive aggressive insults, as you have said you are a "calm aggressive" type, I on the other hand am overtly aggressive. The only real difference is that I am honest about it and openly attack you instead of pretending I am innocent and trying to paint you as an evil bully whenever you are mean to me.

and whom tells Dana she's a fat walrus who should die.

She is fat and retarded, what use is there in her existence?

You are a toxic personality who stands against everything worthwhile

Fuck you, I stand FOR everything worthwhile. I stand for the advancement and freedom of the human species, I stand for truth and just because I am "toxic" to a bunch of fucking intellectually vacuous scumbag bastard alt right neo-nazis, superstitious retards and generally useless idiots who have given me nothing but toxicity to begin with you say I am against everything worthwhile? It is all of you who are toxic and against everything worthwhile, and I am the opposite.

You think you're the good guy

Hmm...lets see, who is the good guy? The guy who supports transcending all the things that enslave humanity or the guy who agrees with deep state mafia leader Hillary Clinton and thinks the fucking Illuminati are the good guys? The guy who values truth and wants to see humanity enlightened or the guy who thinks truth doesn't exist and humanity should be controlled and manipulated by interdimensional aliens? Fuck off you insufferable twit.

You either have it or you're born to be against it.

Wrong, there is a lot more nuance than that. As I explained in the debate description my "heart is in the right place" so to speak but everyone is my enemy and has misunderstood me all throughout my life, and the more truth I present the more the common human assaults me with the fictitiously idiotic garbage that has been programmed into their mind, responding with hostility due to the very fact that I am against all that which is holding humanity back, all that which you take to be "progress" in the pursuit of slavery and "normalization" and which they have been programmed to obey. You think you understand me and that I'm just an asshole but you don't and I'm not, I was born and raised a diamond in the toilet bowl of human society, surrounded by nothing but lies and wickedness and poverty. I am a finely cut jewel that has been coated and uglified by the fecal matter of my life and my environment, but underneath the hostility and the anger I am more pure than you, or any other human on this fucking planet and I will never betray my will to see a Resource Based Economy on earth despite the fact that I will almost assuredly fail and everyone is against me.

There are no types of civilisation

That depends on if the earth is flat and whether or not space exists...I am referring to the kardashev scale if you didn't know.

there is the one world order, the only civilisation.

There is a big difference between a one world civilisation and a one world government. You are speaking of a one world government, a type one civilisation is a global resource based economy.

You haven't realised it yet but you are one of us. All geniuses end up joining us.

Are you calling me a genius? I don't see myself as such. I am someone with average raw intelligence who is only special due to my instincts remaining intact enough to resist the programming of society, and due to the fact that I have come across the right sources of ideas and information.

You already have worked out that globalisation is the goal and the very opposite of this is what Trump stands for.

And yet you say I stand against everything worthwhile, but as you know I stand against Trump and for globalisation (albeit a different kind of globalisation than you Illuminati scum)

There are no borders in reality and laws are made up as people go along... The only real laws there are would be the laws of physics that we can't think our way out of

This is (or should be, if the average human wasn't a brainwashed mentally enslaved halfwit) common sense. All of these things are social constructs, it doesn't take a genius to figure that out.

Human greed is the only, single reliable motive to make people work with

You are wrong, and it is through statements like this that you reveal your true nature and why YOU are the one who is scum, not me.

without killing their bosses when given the chance.

There should be no bosses, only people who know better than others guiding them without authority or tyranny. All things can be achieved through reason and education, no one needs to stand above others forcing them into action, because when we are civilised we will be able to impart reason into the human brain and alter those brains which are incompatible with it due to retardation before they are even developed enough to know what's going on. Without scarcity to create greed or resentment and with a mutual understanding between beings with a sufficient level of reason, there is no need for authority.

appreciate the inevitable truth of capitalism.

Capitalism is a primitive type zero construct based on scarcity, superstitious belief in the monetary system and base greed. It breeds inefficiency and is incompatible with an advanced global civilisation.

You will realise later that you're one of us. It's not your fault you didn't know, it was the coding.

I disagree, I stand for the advancement and freedom of the human species, and the pursuit of truth. You stand against everything worthwhile.

I'm not reading all that.

Why even bother to reply here then other than to express your profound laziness which won't even allow you to read a single paragraph? You don't belong on a debate site because you are a simpleton without an intellectual fibre in your entire being.

ANYWHERE on the political spectrum

Do you realize that whether you are authoritarian or libertarian is also part of the political spectrum?

So, what do you think about somebody deciding to change YOU, regardless of your feelings on the matter?

That's what our current society does, your whole life you are conditioned and programmed, not for your own good or the good of anything larger for yourself, but merely to serve the establishment. I am sure if I was a murderer or a rapist I would much rather be brainwashed into not killing or raping people then to be shot or locked in a cage for over a decade.

Also, people do not just spontaneously form these tendencies, there is a cause for every act of evil. Once you let go of the illusion of free will and learn what causes destructive behaviour in the mechanistic neuro-chemical apparatus of the human brain it becomes possible to socially engineer society so that these things do not happen in the first place.

Eric Arthur Blair (25 June 1903 – 21 January 1950),[1] better known by his pen name George Orwell, was an English novelist, essayist, journalist and critic whose work is marked by lucid prose, awareness of social injustice, opposition to totalitarianism and outspoken support of democratic socialism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Orwell

You are the one retreating from this you incessant neo-nazi troll.

Capitalism is the source of all woe and deception. For it is profit that drives the rainforests back into the abyss, that fills the seas with oil, that funds the corrupt media as it advertises pharmaceuticals which suppress a few symptoms yet bring about the manifestalizationatoriating of a thousand more. Surely if you cannot see this, you are a specklet of spicy hot sauce in my flaming hydrogenated dick hole which is compressing helium out of my balls like an uncle fucking hockey stick in Billl Nye's arse hole. Marx was assuredly a man of sapiosexually alluring wisdom and I masturbate to his broad forehead inwhich be incased a most wise cerebral of vast magnitude. Praise Marx.

lycrial merit

lol

it requires something you lact

lol

I know you said bu5

Okay...this is getting old.

Yes I detest cop killing , rapist , looting “niggers “

Wow, you really are a piece of work.

You’re possibly the dumbest Fuchs on C D

You can't type gtfo.

I say that happens you a lot

Dude, do you need some rest or are you just illiterate?

You not shallow

Me not shallow, you is dumb.

She couldn’t even do that the dumb ho

I am too good at defending myself. She tried to stab me and I disarmed her, then another time she jumped on me and bit my neck like a ravenous hyena and I used jujitsu to restrain her.

You cannot

Try me .

This from the guy who thinks gangsta rap is the epitome of artistic genius

Show me the most lyrically intricate and meaningful song you can think of, I guarantee I can send you a rap that has more intelligent lyrics.

But I’m not a gangsta rapper

The fact that you think all rap is gangsta rap invalidates in and of itself any opinion you might have pertaining to rap. You can rap about literally anything. Rap is a genre of music which is meant to emphasize the lyrics, making it the best form of music for lyrical poetry and conveying a message rather than just making pretty sounds.

Into kids I see ....ooookay

I was in junior high too at the time wise guy.

Probably had a massive dick as well

You're right, she had a massive dick inside of her which was protruding from my loins.

How much did it cost you ?

I had to deal with her annoying, uptight catholic parents trying to brainwash her into thinking I was an agent of Satan.

Possibly the intellect to match Kardashians genius as well

Wrong, I know your racist ass will have trouble believing this, but she was a fucking genius...in fact, she was just like me in that regard.

Did you retain your cock or did you feast on it

The first time I met her, she punched me in the face. It was fun, but she realized that I am not a shallow idiot like most people after I talked to her for a while. She only tried to kill me twice, but she never cut my dick off.

Get the typo police

Capitalist. If you had messed up one letter I might believe it was a typo but you spelled the word capitalist as capatilist. This is obviously due to stupidity, the I and the A are nowhere near each other on the keyboard so how can you claim you hit the wrong key on accident?

capatilist

Learn how to spell you daft wank.

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I believe that , I pointed out corrrectly ( again ) the type of “birds” that are into your type

I know you are only interested in being a wanker faced baboon, but I will still tell you this since I am bored enough to even talk to you. I have had 3 girlfriends in my life, and none of them are the type of "bird" that you think. My first was in junior high, she had massive breasts for her age and her facial features where similar to Daenarys from game of thrones despite her darker complexion. My second was in high school, a cute asian girl who I lost my virginity to when I was 16. The last girlfriend I had was a black girl, she had a Kim Kardashian body shape but the thing I liked about her most was her personality, she was a real vicious bitch. She was the type of chick who would cut your cock off and feed it to you, damn I miss her.

Real meaning , a fat lentil eating hairy “bird” gave you the “ eye “ at a recent meeeting of the Marxist appreciation society

Believe it or not, I am quite popular with the ladies until they actually talk to me and find out I'm not exactly "normal".

That was way too easy

Yes, it's very easy to make a series of cerebrally inept remarks without backing up anything you say with evidence. Where is the bloody proof that Marx raped anyone or caused his kids to commit suicide?

@Dermot

Bitch titty cunt tard fanny face faggot anal whore.

How can you blame Jacque for making money in a society where you need money to have any resources or get anything done? How does that make him a hypocrite or invalidate anything he says? You can't even do anything without money in this society you ignoramus.

As for Marx the same applies, liking fine things is not hypocrisy because it's only a product of society that you need money to have fine things.

You are a pathologically duplicitous wankenstein burger, lying about Marx. Where is the proof that he raped anyone, drove anyone to suicide or was a racist? You are the one who joins in Antrim's "bongo" bashing and talks a load of bollocks about black people. DIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIE

Depends what you mean by man made. Where they created in a lab? Probably not, but they can probably be blamed on the unsanitary environments that humans create, especially in places like Africa.

Nope.

Nope nope.

The right accepts reality and thinks and acts accordingly based on what they are really looking at in real life. The left creates a false reality and acts based on said fake reality.

Assertion does not an argument make.

Example. Socialism doesn't work.

Trying to blend capitalism with socialism doesn't work, real socialism does work.

even though it is not reality.

Says the man who thinks reality was generated out of nothing by a magic causeless quantum computer God.

the right accepts there are bad guys and that we need the police. The left says that in a perfect, nonexistent utopia, cops are not needed, nor guns, and they act on that fake reality.

Humans are primitive, when we grow out of infancy as a civilization, we will understand how to change people rather than lock them in cages or shoot them :)

I agree. The right goes along with corruption and accepts the flaws in a man made system as if they are universal laws written in stone. The left wants to change things for the better.

@Mingiwuwu

I see, so the NWO is about transforming the global socioeconomic playing field from a vicious and chaotic power struggle to a smooth, calculated power struggle. Thus taming the insanity and destructiveness of human society while not denying the supposed inescapable core nature of it.

But we CAN escape the supposed core nature of it, because all of this manifests from a lack of reason.

@Mingiwuwu

When you put it like that it doesn't sound as insane. Why didn't you just clarify that before?

Either way though, to me "truth" basically means reality.

@Mingiwuwu

They are normalising the world and ensuring we stay tamer than our former, hostile ape-like selves in the past.

You are right about this part, and the way you put it, it sounds better than it really is. It's called slavery, and transforming the wild yet prolific and eclectic heart and mind that humanity was originally built to have by the forces of evolution into a sheep like, passive robot monkey without a mind of it's own that serves it's masters willingly, believing the social constructs that socially engineer them are more real than reality itself.

They are cunning and the good guys.

No, they are cunning and manipulative bastards who only care about their own power, and I will not submit to them.

They are the alien demigods

No, they are humans who want to become Gods, they want to become immortal transhuman God's and transform humanity into a race of slave monkeys to be replaced with AI machines and exterminated.

You cannot fight it

Yes I can, I will die and suffer a thousand deaths before I submit to anything or anyone.

it is coded start-to-end. This simulation shall occur

But isn't reality subjective? If that's so, then you are choosing that to be your reality, my reality is coded differently.

we shall obey.

Never.

I don't want to reproduce either for the following reasons...

1) I hate kids

2) I will probably never find a woman that I can actually love or live with despite the fact that I find many of them attractive physically.

3) I would rather focus on my own goals than have a family to take care of.

4)I will probably never find a woman that can actually love me or live with me despite the fact that many of them find me attractive physically.

@mingi

What does ws4l stand for?

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Illuminati are actually the good guys

The "Illuminati" (Illuminati was only one sect, and they don't go by that name anymore) is the zionist multinational banking cartel that owns the west. They are not the good guys at all, and the name "Illuminati" is not accurate either for them or what you think the Illuminati is.

@Amarel

In other words you're an idiot and you don't know anything?

Go ahead and tell me how Jacque is a quack and I will be happy to bitch slap your puny brain.

Am I meant to explain how there's many elements to the rap game and we recycle this?

Am I meant to explain how "the rap game" as a business is much different from the rap game as a sport or an artform and we recycle this? I am only talking about skill, not a successful business model based on appealing to the common rabble. Do you want to discuss rap or business?

@Mingi

Get over it and don't take it so personally. Instead just focus on my actual point which is that most people are stupid and mass appeal has nothing to do with skill. Most people not being able to understand him is absolutely 100% meaningless and if you where a genius like you say you would understand that.

You're wrong.

But I can't be wrong if everything is subjective.

The fact you have to pull out a dictionary to follow K-Rino is itself a god damn alienation issue with 90% of rap listeners, minimum.

That doesn't matter, I never once had to pull out a dictionary to understand him, the fact that most people are too stupid to understand him doesn't mean he's not good. Mass appeal has absolutely NOTHING to do with how good a rapper is, otherwise one could say that Lil' Wayne is better than Webby. We are talking about ability as a rapper here, not how many fans they have or how nice they are. How can you honestly think him being too advanced for most people has anything to do with how good he is? I would go so far as to say that if you're NOT too advanced for most people then your raps are simple minded because that's exactly what the average person is. Mass appeal actually has an INVERSE relationship with how good a rapper is, almost ALL mainstream artists SUCK and have basic ass lyrics.

Canibus

His raps are "technical" in his own words (you probably saw/heard his battle with Dizaster) Canibus is a great lyricist but a mediocre vocalist. Although, he has fallen off considerably at this point and at his current level I wouldn't place him anywhere near a top ten list.

Flow is when you make the words that don't rhyme so perfectly stretched in syllable length and consonant tongue/lip muscularity that when it rolls of your tongue you are able to get really LoooOOuuDD and SSSsssofffft when you need to.

That's only part of what flow is. flow is also rhythm, tempo control and making your rhyme schemes connect smoothly with each rhyme and with the beat.

Eminem and Anilyst do not have true flow they have extremely intricate rhyme schemes and read it at a good tempo to make it sound as if it is complex flow.

But that's half of what a rap flow is, like I've said a million times a flow is not only enhanced by but also dependent on intricate rhyme schemes.

Paz is phenomenal to inhuman degrees at delivering the rap and knows EXACTLY how to write the rhymes so that he can pace his breathing and match the music tempo and 'feel'.

So you think Canibus has good delivery?

Webby is my love and I can't love a rapper more, nothing you say could make me even think he isn't the kingpin of the rap game.

I can see why you think that, but there are plenty of rappers who have more complex rhymes, better flow, better puns similes and metaphors etc. and use them to express a more intelligent message. If you personally prefer Webby that's on you, but technically he is not better than the ones on my list.

@Amarel

I don't usually agree with you but in this instance I couldn't have said it better myself, you are absolutely right about Hillary.

@brontoraptor

I used to be more into gangsta rap then I am now, I prefer lyrically complex intellectual rap like this:

@Obamasgoblin

You know what's funny? Not only is what Mingi said true (and like I said there is a huge variety in rap so there's no way you can make any blanket statement about rap fans) but other than rap my favorite type of music is classical music. So what if someone's two favorite genre's are the ones that are at opposite sides of the supposed spectrum you present?

@Wormpod

DMX and Tupac can't compete with anyone on my list.