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This is the same thing as being an Ewok claiming to be a part of the Galactic Empire. You should just admit that you are an Ewok.

Mr Trump? In what manner do you roll?

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-Not constructed of matter or energy

No one knows what he's constructed of, if anything. It's completely theoretical.

- Made the universe

Check.

-Controls/sets limits on the universe

Check.

Now, that is a pretty loose definition.

Of course this isn't nearly all of the definitive terms used to define God by creationists.

There is no "before" in theory. That's your first mistake, at least in terms of this model, IMO.

In the "4th dimension", time is points and can be moved through like 3 dimensional space. It's like looking at a map. There isn't technically a point on the map that is first. With this, you can move to any point at will. Yesterday is no further "back" than tomorrow.

I'll provide 2 links if you are interested in my perspective.

https://youtu.be/MN4KCzlW4g

https://youtu.be/GtTkcM9BfXM

We have to have some a priori assumptions as a starting point for any reasoning. Your a priori assumption is that God must have come first, before time and space, etc. and then created it all.

My personal assessment is that time is just points thst can be moved to and from at God's will. There is no before. There is no after.

Perhaps we've just studied it more than you have and don't deny where science leads. Are you familiar with the findings of James Gates?

https://youtu.be/bp4NkItgf0E

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I want to point out the significance of the term definition. Were god a thing with observed properties based on direct interaction, something for which we had evidence a, you would have used the word description. Instead, you went for a definition, indicating you were citing parameters of an abstract concept.

You are relying on the conceptualization that God is composed of anything within our universe. He is not. He created the universe and all of its properties. He isn't composed of properties that he had to invent.

No. You saying the conditions for God come from something God created is nonsensical. The comparison is perfectly apt. You don't come from your own creation. It comes from you. The point is that time does not produce God, but God produces time. Even according to science, there was no time prior to the big bang, but only after.

First off, are you meaning Oceania or Oceania from Orwell's 1984?

Second off, let's go at the obvious. How do you plan on disarming 350 million legal guns and 33,000 gangs with millions of members? Civil war? Race war? You'll get one or the other or both. Just disarming the Mexicans would be like disarming an entire European country. Disarming just the blacks would be like disarming Great Britain.

As for disarming the Whites, there are more whites in America than all of Russia. And America has a heavily "dare you to take my guns" culture. Good luck with that..

The media and race dividers have been running the Democrat Party for 200 years.

Saying time is necessary for god is nonsensical. It's like saying binary code must be in place prior to a computer programmer who creates binary code.

Name any denomination that doesn't agree that Jesus is the Son of God, or that Jesus is the only way to Heaven/salvation.

Now explain to us what they disagree on and why it would even matter.

Not actually. This gets pinnochios and "false" even on liberal fact checker sites.

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And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come. (Matthew 24:14)

http://biblehub.com/matthew/24-14.htm

I tell you, he will see that they get justice, and quickly. However, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on the earth?"

(Luke 18:8)

http://biblehub.com/luke/18-8.htm

Don't be fooled by what they say. For that day will not come until there is a great rebellion against God and the man of lawlessness is revealed--the one who brings destruction.

(2 Thessalonians 2:3)

http://biblehub.com/2thessalonians/2-3.htm

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"The second beast comes "out of the earth" and directs all peoples of the earth to worship the first beast (the Antichrist). The second beast is described in Revelation 13:11-18 and is also referred to as the false prophet. The two beasts are aligned with the dragon (Satan) in opposition to God."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TheBeast_(Revelation))

Allah Most High states, “We shall bring forth for them out of the earth a beast that shall speak unto them for they did not believe in our signs.” [Quran 27: 82]

http://www.discoveringislam.org/daabba.htm

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(Speaking of Jesus Christ)

On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written: king of kings and lord of lords.

(Revelation 19:16)

http://biblehub.com/revelation/19-16.htm

Allah's Apostle said, "The most awful name in Allah's sight on the Day of Resurrection, will be (that of) a man calling himself Malik Al-Amlak (the king of kings)."

Sahih-Al-Bukhari Bk 73; Num 224

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Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised?

(2 Peter 3:3-6)

As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. "Tell us," they said, "when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?"

(Matthew 24:3)

Jesus said, "At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other."

(Matthew 24:10)

Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold.

(Matthew 24:12)

But the one who stands firm to the end will be saved.

(Matthew 24:13)

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They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law."

(Luke 12:53)

"Families divided by Brexit: 'Part of me just wants to avoid my dad completely ..."

https://amp.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/dec/21/families-divided-brexit-rifts-arguments-avoid-dad

"Families divided in the Trump era: 'I didn't talk to my parents for weeks ..."

http://m.startribune.com/families-divided-in-the-trump-era-i-didn-t-talk-to-my-parents-for-weeks/415957734/

"Once more, American families face seemingly unresolvable differences. The election of Donald Trump has divided my own tight-knit family to the point of ..."

https://www.google.com/amp/www.independent.co.uk/voices/donald-trump-election-hillary-clinton-half-my-family-torn-apart-hatred-animosity-between-racism-a7424651.html?amp

"I haven't spoken to my family since they elected Trump as President..."

https://www.google.com/amp/www.independent.co.uk/voices/donald-trump-us-election-win-one-year-white-nationalists-nazis-racism-torn-apart-a8043451.html?amp

"Recent polls have confirmed that Americans are feeling bitterly split. A Gallup poll conducted just after the 2016 presidential election found 77 percent of ..."

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.history.com/news/just-how-divided-are-americans-since-trumps-election

"Donald Trump Is Tearing Families Apart, It's Irreversible"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.elitedaily.com/news/donald-trump-tore-family-apart-damage-irreparable/1765379/amp

"Now you can get unfriended for not hating Trump enough" | New York Post

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/ 2016/12/15/now-you-can-get-unfriended-for-not-hating-trump-enough/amp/

The point?

The beast system (Islam, according to itself), and much of Atheism unite at the exact time against Christianity at a time when Syria is reduced to ruins. And this happens at a time when Jerusalem is divided into thirds (it is). And this all happens when Christians are mass genocided and beheaded (happening). This all according to the end times claim of the Bible. That is exactly what is happening now.

Well we'd be happy to demonize whoever...but the Democrats who ARE demonizing...can't provide even a candy bar wrapper worth of evidence of...anything...

Should we just start demonizing people because the media is butthurt? What is wrong with you people?

Good thing the media's not after you ming. You'd be everything in the book right now whether you did it or not.

That's because the concept of God bothers you, so you must ignore it.

There is nothing immoral about loving the flag and the country, keeping terrorists and cartels out, and protecting the Constitution. It's "immoral" not to. Otherwise, the Commies won.

But they can't refuse to do business with gays. The Christians have lost these cases. Was it not you claiming the people on here were uninformed?

The Christians were forced to bake the gay cake by the courts. Correction. The Christians were sued for not baking the gay cake and had to pay up, so probably no help there, except that there is. The bar that refused to serve the man simply for wearing a MAGA hat was judged not guilty.

The literal judgement was that you can't discriminate by orientation, sex, race, or religion, but can by politics. Seriously.

Trump has put more sanctions on Russia than any other President

Next, the leftist media and Mueller have dropped the Russia narrative for obvious reasons. When it comes to the news, do keep up.

It's false logic. A congregation would open their mouths. The preacher would open their mouth. There would be a sermon. And they would all preach the same path to salvation.

It doesn't matter what they disagree on because the things they disagree on aren't doctrinal, meaning of little importance. You also haven't provided us any of these "disagreements".

The disagreements are:

1)Should the leaders wear robes, suits, or casual.

2)Should we hunt Easter eggs?

3)Should we do the Santa Claus thing.

Notice, the disagreements aren't:

1)Who is Jesus

2)Are there multiple paths to salvation

3)Etc

Actually he didn't. If you watch the actual clip, he was referring to the statue protesters and statue defenders, none of which were known to be from hate groups. Flat out using a blatant lie makes you look like you're sick in the head, and can't discern truth from fiction.


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