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Ledger17-24(33) Clarified
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I don't want anarchy this has nothing to do with anarchy.

Ledger17-24(33) Clarified
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I hope you are not calling me buttercup as an offense, seriously.

Ledger17-24(33) Clarified
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People should have to right to leave whoever and whenever and no one should have the right to make up some arbitrary rules and force people to obey them. It just reeks of thinking you're superior to be so arrogant as to decide the way in which someone lives their life, even if it has nothing to do with you. end of the story

Ledger17-24(33) Clarified
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everything you say, I disagree with you completely. Its your opinion is just baseless. Brain is fully developed at 25 is just junk science in my opinion

Ledger17-24(33) Clarified
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that has nothing to do with the debate, and your reasoning is off topic

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I'm a 2000s baby we have different values and beliefs, just because you disagree with it, that does not mean everyone else is, you are making other youth inferior that is age 16-24. stop being such an ageist!

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I think grade 12 are more immature than grade 9, because the way school system treats 17 or 19 year old like a younger teenager. treating them like a child makes them think is okay to act immature. I met a lot of grade 12 and 5th year who do silly things and say silly things. They are worst than they were in grade 9. The statistic shows that young man take a gap year mainly for sports and immaturity.

Nowadays they are eliminating Victory Lap, reduce the maximum credit from 38 to 34. 5th year student can take 1 class in 1st semester and 1 class in second semester or 2 class only in 1st semester. Fortunately they are getting rid of 18 year old in high school.

The School cutoff age should be instead of December 31st, it should be March 1st. That way there be a lot less 18 year old in high school

Ledger17-24(33) Clarified
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In Canada grade 12 is age 17-18, but grade 13 is age 18-19. Which grade 13 is already removed in 2003. Now grade 13 is called a Victory Lap/5th year is for student who are not ready for to go to college/university/work for some reason

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I totally agree with you here, I think grade 12 is acting more silly than grade 9.

Ledger17-24(33) Clarified
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Grade 13 is fifth year of high school, there are few student take an extra year of high school after they are graduating. Is not college freshman, by the way its Canada https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victorylap(academia))

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I disagree, yelling is similar to spanking. Yelling hurts psychologically. This is a form of psychological abuse. Again if parents yells at their kids because their kids in danger that is the total different story. If parents yelling at their kids unnecessarily, they would frighten their children. A lot of teenager and children are scared of their parents. Parents brought fear and terror to the children. This is why teenager dislike their parent because of it. Parents are unjust in all history of humankind. Parents another job is to empower their kids, not making them feel inferior

By the time when children becomes older teen or young adult they may have conflict with their peers, other people. So you have yell at your child before. Probably this may be one of the reason why your children might be afraid of you. I don't know if you have kids or not, I do not need to know.

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Yelling and spanking at child is an abuse. If parents do it they are going to yell back and think is okay to yell and be rude. This will lower the teen self esteem.

[https://consumer.healthday.com/encyclopedia/children-s-health-10/child-development-news-124/yelling-at-children-verbal-abuse-648565.html]

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do you know 6 months old cat is like equivalent to human age of 7 years. There are many indigenous culture, outside of the western culture and eastern culture. class an adult at an early age, even younger than 17. would that standardize adult age 18 still infringe upon indigenous culture. Some indigenous cultures does not have contact with settlers

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But having learners permit is more dangerous than making school related decisions, voting, getting a credit card, open a bank account or withdrawing money from bank account. Most countries in the world have legal driving age to 18 also which makes more sense, why 16 year old can get drivers license while the adult age is 18. 16-17 year old can make healthcare medical related decisions, but 16-17 year old can't make school related decisions.

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How can teenager file an emancipation, it may be hard for them to do it, especially it is expensive to see the lawyer and not really many teen have money to afford the lawyer.

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The problem is the society ask 16-17 year old to make career decisions that is one of the big decision they can make, but they are still treated like kids, for example 17 year old raise their hand and ask the teacher if they can go to the washroom. 17 year old are forced to go to the assemblies, 17 year old has to ask their parents to call the school when 17 year old are feeling ill and not able to make it to school. They are capable of making phone calls for themselves.

How silly that is. High School system treated 17 year old like a 14 year old. 14 year old is different from a 17 year old. 14 and 17 is the big difference. Even 16 and 17 year old is the big difference.

16 year old is the age they can apply for driving license in English Speaking countries. They are taking risk.

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did you read the scenerio? There are some teenager grew up with abusive guardians.

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I'm alone here who's on my side. Why am I an only person on the yes side.

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heres a scenario What if a 16 year old guy grew up with his mental ill parent. His parents and guardians are so abusive of him making his life miserable. He move out at this age. nobody wanted to hire him or give him place because of it. He has good grades, volunteer, but cannot find work and homeless. He scrubs floors doing dishes for hours to make a living. He wants to be self sufficient, successful instead of live off with other people. He wants to move on with his life. School lunches may be the only places he can get food. He work hard for it, but he deserve less than he should deserve. The only way he can get emancipated is by court, which teenager cannot afford Why should someone unable to take care of themselves have responsibility over the children. Teenager can work as hard as anybody else, who will give youth a chance, no one.

Why should someone unable to take care of themselves have responsibility over the children. There are so many youth suffering like him. No one knows about it until they are in that situation. There got to be exception like him.

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At 17 you can donate blood. They can donate organs too to save people's life. That is one of a big thing for late teens to do. 16 year old is different to the 17 year old, because 16 year old are mid teens, while 17 is late teens. Age of consent is 16 in majority of countries in the world.

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If its a dangerous or life threatening situation is okay to yell. I'm not saying that parent should be friends with their kid. This is the reason why older teenagers are depressed nowadays because they are forced to be treated like kids. Every animals become an adult when they reach puberty. Age restriction only exist in humans seems to be unnatural. Age restriction does not exist in animals. I'm saying that 17 year old need to class as an adult to have control of their life and have responsibilities. Parents are not perfect and no one is perfect. Yes that is one of the reason why I like 17 year old to be classified as an adult.

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if you're German you shouldn't be strict on your child. You should not yell or scream at your child.

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are you saying that the only way 17 year old can be treated like an adult is to commit serious crime then go to prison, good 17 year old is treated like children, which good 17 year old are oppressed. It is not fair.

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Do you realize that Germany's voting age is 16 in some elections, however 18 in federal elections.

So lowering the age of majority will increase power an individual has, which empowers them. They can have control of their lives. If we expect 17 year old to act as an adult, then they will behave like an adult as long as we give them adult treatment. 16 year old is a drop out of school age in most countries. When they drop out they will have jobs and support their family.

The reason to class as an adult at earlier age is we expect 17 year old to be act mature, but we treat them like a child is subhuman. Youth are oppressed. there are too many conflicts and rebellions between parents and child this has taken its toll both parent and teen/young adult child's lives. 17 year old can decide what to wear have an ability to express themselves. But younger children is difference they need guidance from their parents. And stop being adultism.


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