Well, you are asking for proof of the existence of The Truth which in itself is evidence that you believe in truth.
If you actually believe in truth, you by necessity believe in The Truth, because if The Truth doesn't exist, there can be no truth.
So really it looks to me like you are having a hard time admitting that you actually do believe The Truth exists.
If you were totally ignorant of the laws of mathematics, would that mean that these laws are not true?
If no one knew these laws, would that mean they are not true?
Truths are discovered, they don't pop into existence only when they are known. They existed beforehand.
Knowledge is not truth.
You got it.
Knowledge is inherently subjective.
So there is a difference between a known truth and an unknown truth, but an unknown truth isn't untrue simply because it is not known.
The Truth itself is something that absolutely cannot be known, because it wouldn't be what it is if it was known. That said, we can at least know that it exists.
I don't know or care about Deepak Chopra, but if he is saying what I am saying, how does that make what I'm saying any less true?
You say my words are gibberish like someone who only knows English might call Korean gibberish.
It isn't that what I'm saying is gibberish to you, it is that you either don't understand or refuse to understand.
It's very simple
What you know to be The Truth is not the same thing as what The Truth is in actuality.
If you can't see that, there are children with more insight than you, and you should be ashamed of your haughtiness.
But I think more highly of you than that, and I believe that you are capable of believing The Truth with sincerity.
If I said, "The sky is blue", a blind person could say, "that makes no sense"
If I said, "the number 5 comes after 4" a mathematical fool might say, "that makes no sense."
You saying I make no sense is not an argument. You are only saying that you can't make sense of what I am saying.
So what exactly are you having trouble comprehending? What do you find confusing about what I just said?
What is in accordance with fact or reality is that we are all wrong and don't see things as they truly are.
To admit this is to admit sin.
God is That Which Truly Is.
The Truth is eternal always existing
A truth in contrast is contingent in relative things like circumstance and and perceptions. A truth was not always true and will not always be true, but is only true for a season.
If there is a truth though, it could only be so if The Truth was somewhere in it. Killing a truth doesn't kill The Truth.
It is nonsense to you because you can't make sense of it.
What is nonsense to you is not nonsense to me.
You do after all say I have my truth, and you have your truth.
If you deny The Truth, which is greater than your personal truth or my personal truth, it stands to reason that you lack good sense.
But of course, you wouldn't be so foolish as to deny truth greater than your truth? You are of course, a man of reason who doesn't hold the truth in arbitrariness, right?
The Truth must exist, otherwise there could be no facts. Facts do not support The Truth, it is the other way around.
I am asserting that because you believe in facts, you by necessity also believe in The Truth.
I am also asserting that The Truth is God, so if you accept The Truth as being existent, you also believe that God exists whether or not you acknowledge God as being God.
I would like to point out that proof has to do with whether or not someone changes their mind. Proof to one is not proof to all.
If I present you all the evidences for something in the world, even evidence that convinces every other person except you... you can still arbitrarily declare, "Ha ha, but you have shown me no proof!"
In other words, if someone stubbornly ignores all evidencd they can declare that there is no proof and not be lying, because something isn't proof to you unless you change your mind.
That snippet you took had to do with accepting Christianity. What is the point in arguing for Christianity when the person you are talking with doesn't even accept the very first premise? If you don't believe in The Truth, if you don't believe in God, nothing else makes sense.
The name of Jesus means, "God Saves" or "God is Salvation". How can you believe on that name if you don't believe God exists?
Well, children can have faith in their parents before they know, as can students or disciples to their teacher.
When we accept God as The Good Teacher, we don't presume to know what we are going to learn. Just as a scientist must have faith in the method before they can perform the experiments to know, so is faith often a prerequisite to knowledge.
In a world where pride is glorified, it can be hard to humble oneself, but sincere humility comes from an awareness of ones own shortcomings.
Context is everything.
The Truth is the God that I believe in. That is not debatable.
But rest assured, this is what the word God with a capital G means. Even if you were to literally ignore all theological writings by church fathers and saints that expressly state this, you would still have the most well respected English dictionaries to confirm. Supreme being, supreme reality, ultimate reality... The Truth.
You arguing that God is anything other than The Truth is like arguing that the word "tree" refers to the big fiery ball in the sky that appears during the day.
So since you of course recognize The Truth, as it has of course been writen on the hearts of all, but deny this as God, in you is the scripture fulfilled that states..
"Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things."
In the words of SAINT Augustine..
"If there is something more excellent than the truth, then that is God; if not, then truth itself is God."
"Where I found truth, there found I my God, who is the truth itself"
Or if you want to fast forward a thousand years, even the protestants recognize...
Herman Bavinck wrote
“God is the truth in its absolute fullness. He, therefore, is the primary, the original truth, the source of all truth, the truth in all truth. He is the ground of the truth – of the true being "
Sinc eyou acknowledge that you believe The Truth exists and you love it, you believe in God.
Whether or not you acknowledge that this is God.
The God I believe in is The Truth, and that is not something that is debatable.
Rejecting Christianity is not the same thing as rejecting God. There are, after all, many religions that believe all sorts of things and make all sorts of claims about God.
This is not a debate about Christianity.
Since you say you Believe that The Truth exists, you are clearly confused and on the wrong side of the debate.
The Truth is God though
Thats what supreme being means. Thats what ultimate reality means.
Now if you believe it, you should be happy to know that this would greatly expand your understanding of the subject
An atheist who claims to love The Truth is ignorant to the fact that The Truth is God.
No type of reasoning can refute God.
All of your issues with God can be rooted in understanding God as something other than what God is.
The Truth.
You aren't actually arguing against God, you are arguing against your own superstitions about God
The Truth is God.
So if you take God as being anything else, you are only refuting gods that were already refuted by monotheists long ago. In other words, I'm right along their with you.
Of course, I accept the Christian faith because I understand it better. You don't accept it because you don't understand it.
But believing in God doesn't imply that you also believe in Christianity, because how could you when you don't recognize its witness?
Denying God is foolishness though, and if you can see how denying The Truth is foolishness, it should be plain as day why denying God is as well.
Your idea about God isn't The Truth, God is The Truth and The Truth is God.
You believe in The Truth, you believe in God. If you refuse to acknowledge The Truth as God, it in no way makes God any less the authority over your life.
Science is knowledge. Truth is greater than knowledge.
That said, those who love truth tend to love knowledge as well.
What you know of about The Truth and Truth itself are different things.
Even scientific discoveries are revelations, and just because someone else has knowledge and wrote about it doesn't mean that you know as well.
Did you perform experiments and follow the scientific method? If not, what you have faith in is not science, you are simply believing what you read.
That said, the scientific method came out of love of Truth, that is, love of God. The idea that God is incompatible with science comes from a superstitious conception of God, one that has been refuted over and over again since the earliest days of theological thought.
To say that The Truth doesn't exist is an invalid position. To doubt whether The Truth exists is also an invalid position because if you have doubts to begin with that means you believe in Truth.
So what I'm really getting at is that people question God because CV they don't know any better. As it has been rightly written by theologians, the root of all heresy is the inability to distinguish between that which is created and the Uncreated.
The Good news is that God is The Truth, The Truth is what sets you free and is the only savior.
So believe. The burden is light.
The Truth is God.
That is exactly what I mean.
I'm not saying all statements about God are transformed into truth. I agree with you, that is silly.
People say an awful lot of things about God that are not true.
But whatever is true has God in it, because God is The Truth, and there are no true things unless there is Truth.
Supreme Being means "greatest absolute existence". It is the same as saying "The Ultimate reality" or "The Supreme Reality".
And I know this because this is what Christian theology teaches, but believing that The Truth is God does not imply you believe Christianity. How xan you, after all, believe in something that you understand to be false?
Well, I am being honest when I say that we as human beings do not always understand things correctly. Admitting sin is to admit that we aren't always right.
I know I am always wrong, but I know God is always right, because God by definition is right. I confess my sins, and point to God.
The Truth is God, so understand that disbelief in the existence of God or even doubt in the existence of God is superstition.
If you believe in existence at all, you believe The Truth exists.
This is what God means, it is the identity of God. It is even The Name of God.
See, God isn't a truth, God is The Truth.
What do you think Supreme Being means?
So after we have that firmly established, any claims about God from that point on must be intrinsic to what that means.
For example, God is eternal. The Truth always was, always is, always will be, and cannot die.
God created all things. Something that exists can only exist in truth, it must truly exist. If therebis any truth, Then The Truth must be in it.
Etc.
The point of religion is not to come to a perfect understanding of God. That is impossible. The point of religion is relationship with God.
You will have more effectice relationship with God if you recognize God as being The Truth.
Recognizing who God is, it is clearly better to have a good relationship with The Truth than a bad one.
The Truth is God. Not a truth, The Truth. That is the focus of good religion. Bad religion has the focus on created things. These are idols before God.
Before people get to true religion they have to find it through creation. Even after finding it, we practice true religion in creation. But the focus is The Truth, which is The Uncreared Creator of all things.
I'm not just defining things into existence.
You think I'm just making this up?
What do you think "supreme being" means?
It means God exists. That's literally the defining characteristic of God.
That's literally what God's name is. I exist.
If you say God doesn't exist, it's because you have a superstitious understanding.
The Truth is God. This isn't an arbitrary assertion, unlike your assertions.
The Truth is God.
It is impossible to prove the truth doesn't exist, so you are right, it is not reasonable to ask someone to prove that the truth doesn't exist.
But seeing that God exists is a simple matter of recognizing that The Truth is God.
The Truth is God.
If you are asking for proof, you are asking for truth.
If you believe in truth, no truth could be unless The Truth was in it.
The evidence for God is all around you. When you ask for God to be proven, it is like asking "prove yo me that it is true that there is such a thing as truth!"
It doesn't take someone particularly smart to see this is an unreasonable demand.
The problem here is mistaken identity.
The Truth is God.
The Truth us God.
Does The Truth make you feel significant or does it reveal just how tiny you are in the grand scheme of things?
The idea that you can keep people from naturally segregating themselves is preposterous.
The idea that you can do away with religion is also a fantasy.
You know what else would end segregation, religion, and human led catastrophe?
Wiping out all of humanity in one movement.
No, God is The Truth, and that means if you love God you love The Truth. If you love The Truth, it should be evident that we all fall short and have been shown much charity. Pass it on, show some charity. Love eachother.
And that is true religion right there.
Your truth will die with you, but if there is any truth at all to your truth, it is because The Truth is in it.
The Truth is eternal. Your truth will pass away.
If you don't acknowledge the truth that is greater than your truth, it sounds to me as if what you are doing is indistinguishable from taking yourself as god.
What proof do you need for what?
I quoted Augustine for you, I've got quite a bit of his works, and on multiple occasions he directly identifies God as "The Truth".
Besides that there is scripture, there is plenty there.
Besides that there is the dictionary.
Besides that there are many writings outside of the christian tradition even. Islamac source, Hindu sources...
But of course nothing is actually proof if you have it in your mind to reject this.
But you at least have one witness. The Truth is my God.
Even if you don't recognize The Truth as being God, do you believe The Truth?
Truth according to oxford..
"That which is true or in accordance with fact or reality."
Reality according to oxford..
"The state of things as they actually exist, as opposed to an idealistic or notional idea of them."
Exist according to oxford..
"Have objective reality or being."
Being according to oxford..
"Existence"
It is what it is.
The Supreme Being
It is God.
And surely there is nothing more worthy to be called God than The Truth.
And even if I stood alone, I would declare without a shred of doubt that The Truth is my God, the one true God, and there is nothing else worthy of such veneration.
But I do not stand alone, this is what monotheism means. The Truth is God.
If you don't believe a truth because it hasn't been proven to you, that is understandable. Lack of belief does not invalidate the truth any more than lack of formulation does.
I find it strange that the idea of unknown truths perturb you so much.
