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For congress- Claim

Congress has the necessary and proper clause. McCullough v Maryland, Congress basically shut everyone down by saying banks were necessary and proper, even if they aren’t in the enumerated power list. Congress can at any point, pull out the necessary and proper clause, and get away with even the most bizarre things. Even with the enumerated powers that everyone has to follow, congress can still go around it

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The president does have the power to make treaties, but he/she still needs ⅔ approval from congress. Woodrow Wilson made one of the most famous treaties in 1919, the Treaty of Versailles, This treaty was very important, as it ended WW1, and yet he still needed congress’s approval, without congress, WW1 could still have been going on today.

The Louisiana purchase, one of the most important treaties, was made possible only through congress. The president can make treaties, but not without congress’s help

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For congress - claim

Congress can override the president's veto, Congress can override the President’s veto if it can get the necessary two–thirds vote of each house, both senate and house of representatives. John Tyler, during what is commonly referred to as the “lame duck” session, in 1845 was when the first president veto override happened, over John Tyler’s attempt to cut revenue. President Barack Obama attempted to veto a bill during his term, called the “Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act” which was resurrected by congress and passed into law. Overriding the president's veto is another example of how you can keep tabs on the president, and make sure he doesn’t become too powerful.

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The Anti-feds argued that with the new government, and the constitution being ratified, that we wouldn’t have nearly enough democracy, that we were giving the government too much power, and not enough to the people, well that's why we invented the checks and balances system, to divide the power, and prevent corruption, by spreading the power over as many people as possible, without going over the time, and allowing human errors and bias to cloud the judgment. "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."

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We as a group are also attempting to tax more, which scares the anti-feds, as they feel that they’re already poor lives will become even worse, however, more/stronger taxing powers are essential to start this nation and keep it off the ground. Taxing is how the government will get money to spend on fixing things like roads and bridges.

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We Federalist state that the necessary and proper clause will not be abused, we will vote as a government, as an equal representation, what is, and what is not, necessary and proper. “To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.”

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BILL OF RIGHTS-The Anti-feds were worried that without a bill of rights, the government wouldn’t be able to properly protect the rights of the people, that the government would be too far removed to help or care. Which we understand, however rest assured that we will do our best to help protect our people. One of the most popular Bill of rights is the section of “All Men are created equal “The ordaining of laws in favor of one part of the nation, to the prejudice and oppression of another, is certainly the most erroneous and mistaken policy. An equal dispensation of protection, rights, privileges, and advantages, is what every part is entitled to, and ought to enjoy.”

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As a Federalist, my people and I came up with a list of Enumerated powers, to help show the anti-feds that we won’t corrupt the government with a large federal government. A strong national government would better protect the individual liberties of the people. By extending the reach of the government, individual and minority rights would be better protected from infringement by a majority.” Probably among the most talked about of the Enumerated powers, is the Necessary and proper clause, from Article 1 section 8. “To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foreign Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.” This being the most popular example of the Enumerated powers.

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The Anti-feds fear a standing army, they’re afraid it will give us too much power, and that we will abuse it. I would, however, like to point out that, with standing armies, we are better prepared to withstand attack, or initiate it, if need be. “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” That is a quote straight from the second amendment on the second amendment, providing assurances that a standing army is necessary for the safety of the people, and that this will not infringe on the peoples natural and given rights.

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