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If the earth was flat, then explain to me how you can end up at the same place again by just walking straight?

If the earth is flat, you wouldn't reach point A again by just walking straight. Unless you tell me that there is a invisible portal that you go through. lawls. idk.

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Oops. I didn't mean to dispute you. my bad.

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LMAO!

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Excon my boi. haha ok xd Ok man. I like to see your comments as well. xd

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Aye man. Thanks for commenting. Thanks to everyone really. But it is good to see you on one of my debates. I think this is the first. Maybe the second. eh. idk. 12129 points. damn, give me some points. I'm joking. xd

hell yeah i would. If i have nothing to lose but my freedom, i will run away.

Yes. As long as both sides don't carry any diseases or other sicknesses. xd

btw. hi! xd How are you?

I forgot how to delete arguments. So read the other one i made please. xd

I don't get it. why would you want a virgin? Would you want an experience woman that will ride like a bull?

I agree with you there. Protecting the person you love would question your morality and that is tough. Other people might start disliking you for protecting a murderer.

If he stopped using the word now, lets stop focusing on the past and start focusing on who he is now.

Also to be fair, Booker T and every other black man wrestler should be fired because i bet they said the n word in their lifetime. Maybe they haven't but im willing to bet that they had. lol

Yes.

Calculators should be in existent to review your work and do the work for you. You must do the work and check it on your calculator.

i want to go on this side to shock some folks. Yes go ahead. Be shock. Know that i support GTS. woot!

Nice to see you again and haha i get the inside joke :) How are you? If i can go back in time, there is one thing i would change and that is one of my comments towards your friend. I forgot her name but i think at the time, you two were suppose to get "married." I am putting that in quotes because you two weren't getting married and at the time, i thought you two were. haha. I think one my comments may have pushed her off the site and when i think back on it, i was dead wrong. I apologized to her and i think she responded back politely. How is the new createdebate for you? It seems like we have a lot of new people. xD

lol i remember when your name was Hellno2012 xD

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I learn more from homework at times. So i don't think homework should be banned. Also homework is a way to show yourself that you understand a topic but that isn't guaranteed because there is work that you can ace on and still don't know anything about it.

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I think the best solution is talk to him about why he has done and try to change his ways of life. Throwing him in prison as a sign of revenge is reasonable but it is better to try to change his ways of life. People wouldn't do that because they are so fixed on getting revenge that is actually not healthy for society. Revenge creates a cycle of hate and that will continue forever until one side stops.

If the only two options is prison or death sentence, then obviously it is life sentence. If i was a revengeful person and i am a revengeful person, life sentence is better because death is an easy escape.

Andy. I still have loading problems whenever i try to get on my profile. I do admit, today was faster. But it is still a problem. Why is this?

I use to stalk too. And let me tell you...it is hard to not to stalk. It is an addiction. One point i just told my sister to take away the computer wires because i needed some "force" to help me stop.

Whoever you are right now as a person bro, i see the person whom you want to become. I really hope you get that way. And i don't know your situation on here but if someone insulted you here, i will defend you.

I agree that religion is a stance of belief. But what does believing in something mean? I think that if someone doesn't read the holy book at least, they are less from a true religious person. I do think that makes them less of a religious person. Because a person who actually believes in God, should have a life that is radically different.

For this reason i am down voting you.

I do think they are a danger by their lies.

Because if someone bullshits and spreads the bullshits, then i will bullshit too. And then this world will become more bullshit and we will crumble. And because society will crumble under bullshit, we won't have defense. And without defense, we are not humans but barbarians. And we will not be happy because defense equals happiness.

Well i disagree with you guys to the right.

Don't be part of a religion if you haven't read the entire religious text. And don't claim your religion is the best when you haven't read and LIVED through the other 2000 religions out there.

So if you are a Christian but haven't read the holy book in completion, you are a danger to society. And you are bullshitting.

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If i had a girlfriend or wife, i wouldn't want her to swear. i want her to stay a gentle flower. But i don't own her. I am just saying that is my preference.

I believe in the Sandy Hook Conspiracy. :/

i listened to it enough and so far, i understood nothing from the video. You are being rude to the other person. You may be right with your argument but in my opinion, your language ruins your debating personality. :/ I don't know if others share the same.

Black is the absence of color since it absorbs all the light. No light is being reflected to your eye. We see red, because light is being reflected. But for black...no light is being reflected.

If light is considered a color...then my argument is valid. But it really boils down to opinions.

Like you can screw what everyone else says and judge color by what you see instead of something that is being reflected right back into your eye. :/

There is death but this world can still become over crowded if we take the right measures. Like if every woman in the world gave birth to a child in a consistent order, i bet we can make this world too crowded.

I don't see why people are answer no. Because the world is like a house. If it becomes too over crowded, it becomes unpleasant and bothersome.

Thank you :) But I did some research on merriam webster. Merriam webster states that to relieve pain, you are removing pain. Pain can be a problem right? So to relieve pain, you are removing a problem.

Now i found at least two different meanings for the word "cure" in merriam webster, and that is "something that ends a problem or improves a bad situation" and "the act of making someone healthy again after an illness."

Because that this, Hellnaw has a valid point if he has died and felt no pain. Or if he has other possible evidence. And i think my point isn't valid. Though it is hard for me to think that killing cancer patients isn't avoiding the problem. I guess it depends on how you look at it.

So overall, what Hellno said can be valid. Unless he brings evidence to the table that life after death brings no pain. Or some other evidence that isn't popping in my head.

Annnnnnnd, i hate to say this but, i don't think i have a valid point at all. ugh. fml. Eh, at least im honest. xD

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i agree with you. By killing everybody, you are avoiding cancer. You are not curing cancer. Avoiding cancer isn't curing it.

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Yo dawg, Harry Potter is REAL!!!!!!

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To be honest bruh. I went to that camp and DAMN IT WAS BEAUTIFUL. It could had been beautiful because i never been around the scenery before.

A beautiful lake. Open grass. I think there were mountains. And the food was great. We had to preach about God at the end of each day and to be honest, it never hit me whyyyyy LOL. But it was so worth it because it felt being in a painting. And the food was great lol. They overcooked the steak tho :/ xD

I will bet that you would had liked the camp too. And beautiful girls were there as well. Christian girls i guess. xD

:) Thank you :) In my opinion, i don't think it is a waste of life to debate. This site can become educational :)

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I do :) Ever since i went to Young Life Camp (Bible Camp in disguise on the brochure or maybe i didn't read it clearly) i did. And the camp was beyond fantastic in my opinion.

But i do and my prayers are like: "Dear God and Jesus Christ, thank you for my food, my drink, and my entertainment. And thank you for the life that goes in my food, my drink, and entertainment." My prayers can get annoying. I even add more sentences to be specific like "thank you for my fries, my coke, and my wendy williams show." lol

sometimes i give up due to the annoyance and say "thank you." :)

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oh and i do the cross symbol hand thingy on my forehead and chest.

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Congrats Srom. I am proud of you bruh. And this is very nice of you Hellnaw :) If it is ok to call you that :)

Srom started on this site AFTER ME and look at my points. lol i did do a lot of down voting and i wasn't on as much. But congrats Srom. :) You deserve it :)

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:) Actually sound travels through air. So you wouldn't here anything in a vacuum or space.

I actually disagree with you on that saying that silence is nothing. I do think silence is something and i can back that up with merriam webster. :)

A "Thing" is "a particular event, occurrence, or situation." Silence can be a particular event right? Maybe im wrong lol.

A "something" is "a person or thing that is important or worth noticing." Silence can be important :)

Also silence can be an idea formed in your mind. So it exists in your head.

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Is it considered hearing if you experience true silence?

Did you say that God doesn't exist in all forms?

If yes, he does exist. He exists in people's beliefs and he exists in the bible.

God does exist. The question is if he is real. :(

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lol maybe i should talk my debates with you before picking my debates titles LOL.

that is another good alternative debate question.

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9/11 terror attacks come to mind. (And not because i read "middle east"). I mean NYC is massive but yet we had a fatal event occur. I see your point. I just think that we can't say that massive cities or societies aren't totally safe.

I think off duty officers are equivalent to bystanders. And i think if someone sees something wrong, he or should should at least call the police.

I think humans are responsible for the welfare for others humans. Why else do we have empathy? I believe we are programmed to help others.

But i think...i don't know. :/

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please explain why you chose no? :(

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I see what you mean. :) And i don't want to go that route because i want to push your mind to think. That is the main exercise.

If i loved George Washington, then that would be a simple answer "yes" to this debate. Because he may not exist in the tangible form, while yet he exists in memory or thought.

I want you to think....if you can love nothing? Is it possible to love something that does not exist. And it could pertain to you or to others. Like adults can say Italy exists. But babies who have no clue of this earth will not know if Italy exists or not. So this debate can be perceptional.

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I agree that is a contradiction.

Well i guess the correct question is that can you love nothing?

Thanks :) I will put that in the bio.

It may be a simple no...but i believe you can...so that is why i push my thoughts. But you may be right. But still...thinking this can be kinda fun :)

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Don't forget that this debate can be perceptional. Like when you was a child at the age of 2, did you know that Afghanistan existed? So to you, Afghanistan did not exist. But this is a perceptional route.

What you said was not perceptional but agreeable. :)

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I clarified the debate more. :) Do you still keep your answer?

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My definition of existence isn't necessarily something that has to be real or tangible. Something can exist as a thought, memory, dream. You can draw Mr. XYZ and Mrs XYZ on a chalk board, and they would exist...on the chalkboard and from your mind from which you created them.

For your first question. You are referring to something that has died and once been real. If that something exists in your mind, then it exists. But then, you shouldn't be in the "yes" portion of this argument because you love something that exists.

Your second question....yes it can exist in imagination as which i stated in the first paragraph. :) But then...you can't answer in the "yes" portion of this argument because you love something that exists.

Your third question is really what this debate is about. You nailed the topic of this debate but try to think deep. Is it possible? Is it not possible to love something that doesn't exist.

Hmmmmm i think i need to clarify the debate title more: Can you Love something that doesn't exist in all forms: memory, thought, being alive. Thank you for that :)

Congrats Joe. :) I personally not a fan of your debates but nobody is fan of mine :/ due to disturbing "ness" LOL. However, you are a well deserved member because you had been a member since the old days. :)

Thank you for your input and welcome to create debate :) Your debates will be appreciated here :)

I actually agree with you that it isn't synonyms. However i can't say they are antonyms either.

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I don't see it as antonyms.

Doubt is when you believe something isn't true.

Belief is something believed.

I doubt that he got an B on his test. I believe that he didn't get an A on a test.

Belief and doubt are antonyms for Christ sakes

Are you saying that because of that fact, the two words cannot relate or be connected in some way?

I disagree.

Doubt is to believe that something may not be true.

And

Belief is something believed.

These two words basically revolve around the word "believe" and that is what makes these two words connected. Oh, I use Merriam Webster again.

I personally have a hard time thinking that these two words are antonyms. Maybe they are synonyms because of how they relate.

So in order to win this argument i have to show that trust can bring doubt. :)

hmmmmmmm

So let me create a scenario i like to use: A man cheats on his wife.

Merriam webster states that trust is: "belief that someone or something is reliable, good, honest, effective, etc."

So a woman sees a suspicious text message on her husband's phone and suspects or trusts that the text is something reliable to determine that her husband is actually cheating.

Merriam webster states that doubt is: "to be uncertain about (something) : to believe that (something) may not be true or is unlikely"

So basically if she trusts the text message to be something reliable, she also believe at that time and moment that the text not being reliable is unlikely.

lol, ok that is my argument. xD

When you doubt, trust is implied. It comes along with the doubt, you trust yourself in order to believe in it. Thus, doubt is a form of trust.

(Merriam webster of the definition of doubt says "to say that you accept or do not deny the truth or existence of (something)")

If i acknowledge the doubt, i accept the doubt's existence. I accept it because i chose to accept it.

(Merriam Webster of the definition of trust: "belief that someone or something is reliable, good, honest, effective, etc.")

I think i'm a reliable person. So i trust myself with my acknowledgment of the existence of the doubt.

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edited. sorry. I made a mistake.

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DAMN LOL. I said i will be brb!!! Now i can't edit. hahah

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You said that "you can trust that you are uncertain."

In other words, you can trust your doubts.

So is that saying doubt is a form of trust of oneself?

You also said "doubt+evidence(anything that convinces you)=trust." So doubt has to be a form of trust because it plays in the equation of it.

"If she really believes that he isn't going on the trip, then it isn't doubt."

No that can still be doubt. If she KNOWS that he isn't going on the trip, then there is no doubt. But if she believes, well that isn't knowing.

.... brb.

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"If she was uncertain then it would be doubt."

Yes she becomes doubtful that her husband is not going to a "business trip."

"But now she claims to be certain of it by claiming she trusts that judgment."

Yes she becomes certain of the doubt by trusting in the doubt or her doubtful judgment.

"So she comes to the conclusion of trust because the doubt is gone."

No. She trusts that the doubt is there. She has become certain of the uncertain.

"Doubt is still not a form of trust."

It seems contradictory to say that one can be uncertain and certain at the same time. It makes sense to me. If one person becomes uncertain of something, that is like saying that you are you certain of your uncertain thought. In other words, you trust yourself to believe something is uncertain.

Like...if I showed you an apple and told you it was an orange...you will probably laugh. You will be most likely certain that the apple IS NOT an orange and that I am a complete idiot. At the same time, you trust your doubt because you trust your experiences. And it is your experiences or knowledge that tells you that what you see is an apple.

Am I wrong? I could be. You seem smart.

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Try putting it in a sentence. Might make things clearer. :/

I doubt that you are you going to the park with me.

I trust that you are not going to the park with me.

The second sentence can either put trust in the speaker or to the other person....which is the debate's question.

To the speaker: I trust in myself that you are not going to the park with me.

To the other person: I trust in you that you are not going to the park with me.

I don't speak like that (The sentence just above "To the other person") so that is why I am having trouble with this debate. Putting trust into someone to do something negative is odd to think. But I will bet it is an unnoticeable common. Um....

Lets say your husband cheats on you constantly and it breaks your heart badly. Now think about this because I think I have something. The person you love has just changed before your eyes. As if he or she is a new person. You are chained to the relationship and just have to accept the new person who he or she is. So when your love says that he or she is going on a business trip...your mind will automatically doubt that your love is actually going on a business trip and instead pursue an affiar. And your mind will accept your love as a new person and say "I trust IN YOU that you are having an affair."

You just have to be there to truly understand the horror.

I find some nine eleven jokes funny but I want to respect those who died that day and those who tried saving lives. Because if I was in their position and I survived, I would think those who laughed are really sad people.

But then again, it is better to laugh than cry at times.

It is tough to choose a side.

I will choose no because I do not know. I do not know because I do not know if hell and heaven even exist? I would like to know heaven exists but I haven't stepped foot in it.

The same idea is if you tell me if Afghanistan is real? I do not know. I hear about on the news so I assume but do I "know...." nawww I don't.

If you mean heaven and hell in the terms of happy and sad then I do not believe hell can exist without heaven. Every bad tragedy can produce a heavenly or good outcome if the mind is used in the right. For example.....if I get raped, something bad, I can bring something good out of it like...um....share my experience to help those who have trouble coping. And more.

It was some type of test. I believe a poor one at it. But my main process was to replace God with yellow.

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The bible has quotes, do you believe in them?

If not, it is interesting to how you agree with Albert Einstein's quote.

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LOL. I will see if I can fix it. I appreciate your correction. :)

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I thought about this. And i am sorry about my clarification unless you meant to insult. HOWEVER, on a meaningful perspective...i want to know if a religious person's response to that.

I am friends with Srom and i don't mean to be rude. However, i am curious as to what a religious person might say to that.

Some people prefer it.

Some people not.

Perception is key. Now where is the damn lock.

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Are you trying to insult him?...Then please do not do it or i will down vote.

Unless if you are asking him on a different meaning.

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If you think about...everything and everyone caused 9/11 because they failed to prevent. Even the stars in the sky. And no, i am not being sarcastic. Im serious.

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I find it kinda disappointing that Andy has to read "It is her or me" kinda speeches. I mean, he gives out shirts and he pays for this site for us to debate on.

If you don't want to speak or debate with Dana, it is really simple. Ignore her and BAN her. I am a troll and troll don't last long when people do not care.

Don't let one user take you from this site. That is really absurd. And don't act like you guys haven't fueled the fire. I mean you freaking nominated her for an award.

Just ban the woman from your debates guys. How freaking hard is that? And stop complaining...IT IS JUST ONE INTERNET WOMAN. Not like it is real life. The sooner you realize this and follow my instructions, the more easy it is to be on this site.

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Hellno, can i ask you a question? Are you referring to Dana as the devil?

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I have to say on Dana's behalf that there are people who continue the drama themselves. And it isn't fair to put the entire blame on Dana when people continue fueling the fire. It is hypocritical in a way.

And she wins a Snappy Award...as if her presence was actually worthy on Create Debate. I am not saying it is and im not saying it is not. But posting this debate makes it seem as to why she gotten an award in the first place. It is hypocritical.

I think not only Dana needs to change her outlook, i think those who fuel the fire need to do so as well.

I think

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is the loneliest number because nobody ever mentions it in their daily lives. Have you?

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I think you do want to know. I can sense it.

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Every evil has a good side to it if we are willing to unlock it. If we take precautions next time to prevent a similar attack, then that will be the unlocked good. We thus learned from the evil to prevent future evil from happening. I think that is one legitimate reason to thank evil.

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I don't think that is true love tho if he just made us into compassionate beings. He allowed us to choose that for ourselves. ... but then again, i am a hypocrite saying that because i do not believe in free will most of the time.

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Prove to me please why you think God is fake. If you can convince me, i will upvote. If not, i have to down vote.

NSFW. Im 22 and that stuff hurts my eyes. ><

I never thought your words before: "but if there is no time then there was no beginning or end which entails nothing."

In a sense...time 00:00 is actually the beginning and end. "Now" is the beginning and end. :)

Was Einstein theory of relativity talked about how time in space slows down or at the speed of light, time slows down? I believe so. Maybe if we go fast enough, time will eventually slow down. Or... maybe it won't at all.

Interesting stuff. :)

oh phew. I honestly didn't know if you was joking. The bird and the volcano...lol i had a hint. But i really thought you was serious. my apologies. :)

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what do you think i do in the shower?

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I down voted myself because society hates people like meh. Whateva, at least i got my lyrical ways. (rapper)

Put the category for the most sick/trouble minded over thinker debator: TheThinker

Im still trouble minded. :/

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i knew you wasn't describing someone attractive.

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What did you do to try to summon them?

aiight thnx :) i think you win :)

Free Will does not exist.

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im mad ugly too. sometimes i think im beautiful...in yellow light. hahaah i think i need a tan. i do wear glasses :)

lol i was just describing myself to you. :)

edit. Were you joking by saying "stfu"? lol im really sensitive.

edit again. Oh i never suggested that you was calling me dumb or retarded. Again, i was just describing myself to you. sigh

falls to the ground....hard lol

Im 6'1. Im pretty big. fat. I weight a lot. With a black or dark hoody, i look weight less. Short hair cut. white skin. Weirdo? i don't think so. Stupid and dumb...lol yes. Im a kid at heart :) Am i retarded? I admit i made retarded mistakes and damn i regret it.

lol it is aiight :)

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-_-

Sigh. I see this isn't going anywhere. Still i believe my down vote was justified for a few reasons. One being.... normality doesn't always means if you are awake.

aw thank you but no thnx :) I joined the gym so eventually i am able to fit in them lol :)

I had a feeling you was being sarcastic or funny as well. I also thought you was serious because i implied you were saying that in order to be awake, things have to be normal. And i believed you were saying that and that you meant that in all seriousness.

I do think my down vote was justified because this is a debate and when making an argument, you should be serious. That fact that you wasn't serious deserves a down vote because you are wasting my time. I respect you however and i don't want to disrespect you. I bet many debaters will agree that a good laugh is a good laugh but when debating, everything you say must be taken seriously.

And i don't think your down vote was justified because this is all text. I can never be 100 percent sure if you are serious or anything. Even if you say you were serious, i can't tell if you are serious. You basically down voted me because i didn't get your joke...that isn't even fair.

Stick to the debate please. :) If you want to joke and debate in all in one chat box...ok, then please label which texts are "jokes" and which texts are "serious."

Now that i think of it. I am so sure me down voting you wasn't retarded because you disputed me with a joke. That isn't a dispute at all then. Therefore, my down vote was justified.

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What if you think in a dream?

TheThinker(1697) Clarified
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But if it remains a possibility, how can we then conclude that we exist? That is like concluding without being 100 percent sure. Though i personally believe we humans can never be 100 percent sure about anything.

I don't have a lot of evidence to back up the brain in a vat theory. However, to me...it just seems possible. I don't think we should just ignore it unless there is evidence against it.

And in order to prove that is realm is reality...i think we should prove and disprove everything in order to be 100 percent sure.

WHERE THE HELL AM I ON THE LIST?! LOL JK. I wasn't around that long. To be honest, i can't fit in the largest shirt. I want to still thank you for the shirt from the first awards. I just wanna let you know that. :)

Still that doesn't really disprove a third level of being awake. And it doesn't really disprove that we are a brain in a vat.

I may be over thinking it but these theories aren't dis proven. And if we are just a brain in a vat and if we aren't truly awake, then i can say that we do not exist in a way we think we do. Because this is not reality.


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