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Free means free at the point of service paid for via taxes. It means no upfront costs and spreading the cost out over a larger risk pool and bringing in more taxes from the wealthy. Consolidating under one plan means significantly less administrative costs.
Nobody who supports Bernie is under the impression that government programs dont cost money.
"Durrr FrEe DoEsNt ReAlLy MeAn FrEe" has never been a clever point. Its always been painfully stupid
Its built around old jewish law.
They have the same god as the christian god.
How do you not see how he is still responsible for the horrible shit in the old testament?
God himself came up with horrid rules then invented a convoluted scheme where he sacrifices himself to himself to change the rules that he couldve just changed all along because hes omnipotent.
You have a god who is all powerful and boundless yet somehow bound by imaginary spiritual rules that demand that he do a sacrifice. HE IS GOD. HE MAKES THE RULES. Why the hell would he not just change the rules to not require a sacrifice?
Nothing about your retarded religion makes any sense and you know that deep down. does it get exhausting listing out 20 different excuses for the blatant falsehoods, absurdities, and internal inconsistency of your god/faith?
And your last point you dont even dispute that god kills babies. You admit god kills babies. Your only argument is "yeah well you support killing unborn babies too!"
yeah i do. So does your god. Im not the one who is suggesting abortion is immoral. Your god is. So why does he defy his own command?
You have no answers
For someone who loves to ban and ignore people you sure love to leave the comfort of your own debates to argue with people and then as soon as you start getting slapped you ignore.
Why do you choose 6 replies later to "ignore" him?
Why respond to him in the first place? Id guarantee he's banned from your debates automatically.
This is just more of the same in this bleeding heart culture. These political correct Progressives refuse to take a stand against irresponsible behavior.
Im a progressive and am one of the most outspoken people for fixing this site and getting rid of the trolls. Youre just completely making that up just to fling insults. Last i checked youve been here for the past 2 years while i have not. How come it took me coming back and making a fuss about it for you to speak up?
In our public schools we have Liberals telling everyone how no child must be denied an education, even if he is a disruptive idiot ruining every other child's ability to learn in a stable environment.
Thats completely untrue. No teacher is going to allow a disruptive kid in a classroom. You can go on youtube and watch 50000 videos of teachers throwing disrespectful or loud kids out of class. It happens all the time.
We are paying teacher aides to babysit dysfunctional bullies every single day.
Sure but that doesnt mean theyre placed in the same classes with everyone else. We separate them and give them more personalized 1 on 1 teaching because clearly they need it. Theres a reason WHY theyre being disruptive.
If its a mental disorder they shouldnt be turned away from education they just need specialized help. If theyre disruptive because of trauma at home or whatever then they need help for that too. Very few disruptive kids are just inherently evil. Theyre almost always acting out for a reason. Youre approach is way too blanketed. and the analogy doesnt really work
The Democrat Party has been taken over by insecure Progressive elites who want no accountability for one's own choices in life.
The prison population and the deportation numbers both increased under obama. Unless you mean legalizing marijuana in which case you shouldnt have to be accountable for that because its not a bad thing.
When a site allows vulgar hate filled childish fools to spew their dysfunctional rants on people who actually want to debate, then the site is coming to an end.
You want to debate? Then how come youve spent the last 3 years straight making debates and banning the entire site from them? Literally half of your debates have nobody but you participating in them.
Not only is the site manager at fault, but also debaters who actually allowed these morons a forum to spew their immature hate. You actually responded to these jokes time after time! If you just ignored them they would have gone away!
That may be true but the trolls still just spammed the new debates to farm points and even if you dont respond to them they will respond to you. Not to mention they can keep making sock accounts so if you block one theyll just keep getting past your attempts to block them.
This troll problem has been around this site for a looooooooong time. Sure the users can do more but its really up to the site owner and manager to put in protections like email/phone verification to make sure that these people stay off the site.
The problem is this website makes -$250 a month. Theyre never going to pay more on top of that to put in these protective features. The site doesnt make enough money for them to invest in it.
I wonder, when this site is down to one fool with a hundred aliases, will it simply close up shop or fight for that last penny of advertising?
LMAO. dude theres a strong chance that one fool will be you, all alone in a sea of your own debates that everyone else is banned from.
I've got better things to do.
you havent for the last 3+ years.
Creates everything from nothing. Creates man and woman and the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Because god is omniscient and knows everything before it will happen, he knows that they will eat from the tree before he even creates the tree or Adam and Eve. He creates them anyways (nevermind also creating Satan, knowing he will fall from grace and tempt eve into eating of the tree). From this we can deduce that he must have intended for Adam and Eve to eat from the tree. It is impossible for an omniscient and omnipotent being to create something that happens and NOT intend for it to happen. That would be a contradiction.
You cant know what will happen ahead of time, set things up that way, and then absolve yourself of the results.
So God intentionally caused the fall of man. Not only does he punish adam and eve but every single descendant of them as well. Thats abhorrent. Punishing the great great great 50x greats grandkids of adam and eve who broke god's law is abhorrent enough. But punishing them for adam and eve's crime which god himself orchestrated?
Its like a parent taking a hammer to their own TV and then blaming the kid for it AND their grandchildren and every descendant thereafter.
It makes absolutely no sense. And i know the likely response is trying to draw some line of separation between god's morals and man's morals and how god has some infinitely higher morality that we cant possibly understand and blah blah blah that somehow makes this obvious moral conundrum okay.
Just know out of the gate i reject the bible as true and i reject god's morality as anything more than an extension of man's own morality projected onto a god.
So thats basically my opening argument. We dont even have to get into god's laws or the books of the bible or the commandments or any of that. Because i reject the entire moral basis for the founding story of the judeo christian tradition.
I skipped to a random part (because im not watching 60 minutes of this drivel). In the segment i watched he said in new zealand the buyback failed because only 10% of people turned in their guns (14:20-14:35).
What he doesnt tell you is that particular buyback gives until december 20th and only requires the turning in of semi automatic weapons and parts that convert weapons into semi automatic.
Under the buyback scheme which was brought into law in June and launched on July 13, gun owners have until December 20 to hand in semi-automatics, parts that convert firearms into semi-automatics, magazines over a certain capacity, and some shotguns.
He gives no citation whatsoever and only provides documentation of a piece by Reason about cuomo and beto o rourkes supposed gun legislation.
I was able to pick a random spot in the video and fact check a lie in under 2 minutes. A lie by omission for not telling you that the legislation has a deadline that has yet to expire and is still ongoing, and which is not comprehensive.
Just another loud mouth right wing asshole exploiting a low information audience with strawman arguments and omission of information.
Well its both isnt it? you got a mix of people who are true believers that what theyre doing is righteous, you have some who are just psychotic and want their own personal adrenaline rush. You have some who realize what theyre doing is wrong and have a moral crisis. and you have others who grow numb to it or even enjoy it.
You have people who do it just for the free college or career training. The young and poor have alot to gain from it potentially