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Science makes claims of string theory and parallel universe; that is just as spiritual as any book.

Those are just two different theories, science itself has achieved so much more than religion could ever do. If the world were wiped out right now, and every human died off as well as every shred of humanity, when civilization rebuilds, science will be rediscovered, while Christianity will not. This is because we can prove science, while religion is just a belief with no factual evidence whatsoever. There is no shred of evidence whatsoever to prove Christianity; the shroud or Turin and many others like it are proven falsities.

A little hypocritical huh?

I'm sorry, but I honestly think if you're really trying to say I'm hypocritical then you must have some sort of disability. You believe in a man in the sky, with no proof to back him up, who killed around 25 million humans according to his book, in which several falsities exist such as the bat, which we know is not a bird. It's all a lie, it's no more intelligent than Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy or the Easter Bunny.

Stop right there, give me a form of accurate dating test that can get behind 10000 years and I will believe you.

Key word being accurate I'm guessing. I could name many, although you'll just shoot them down for being "inaccurate". Fossils, including those of homo erectus and homo neanderthalensis, the dinosaurs, various forms of geography such as Canada's Appalachian mountains, which have slowly eroded away over the millions of years, the fact that corals have been growing at the coral reef for 25 million years and that their structures have existed for at least 600,000 years. Simple facts like this. Want me to go further? Fission track dating, carbon dating, amber from sap, layers of ice, craters, and so forth. I could go on all day.

I never said it was safer, I am just equating the Big Bang and any religious belief.

It's a theory, yes, but so is gravity. Is gravity also a huge lie? We might as well compare gravity to a religious belief, because it's also a theory.

Everytime you find a flaw, an apologist who actually has legitimate credentials gives an explanation.

Explain the Bible's self-contradiction. Such as Genesis 32:30, which states, “…for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.” However, John 1:18 states, “No man hath seen God at any time…”. This is just one of many featured within the book.

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As I am an atheist, I will try and answer this in a neutral perspective; God doesn't help everyone because he's an asshole. Let's go back to the scriptures and point out some instances in which God did not bother to help at all:

Genesis, 17:14 "And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant."

A boy who is not circumcised should be cut off from his community according to God. A rather fair punishment for a child who did not do anything wrong. Despite the fact that it was the child's parents' faults for this "sin", the child is apparently the one to be punished by God because he simply doesn't care about the child.

Genesis 19:26 "But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt."

In an angry rage, God murdered everyone and everything in the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah with the exception of Lot and his family. Despite how everything they've ever known, owned and met is now being burned alive, God says not to look back. His wife does look back, and she is instantly killed. Now, would a helpful God really impose this on a family? He spared the family, but not anything else, and then murdered Lot's wife over such a small deed? I do not think God helped Lot in this case, or his children for that matter, or everyone else that was just burned alive. He may have spared their lives, but as he has just destroyed everything they've owned and loved, and now the childrens' own mother, I am not willing to believe he helped them very much.

Leviticus 19:31 "Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God."

God commanding his people not to be around wizards and people with familiar spirits, showing just one of many groups of people he refuses to help.

Numbers 16:32 "And the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed them up, and their houses, and all the men that appertained unto Korah, and all their goods."

For having a different view and not wanting to follow Moses, Korah, his men and their families, as well as everything they own are swallowed up by the Earth. Very helpful to Korah, isn't God? In other words, "do not disobey your government's every orders".

Numbers 25:16-17 "And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Vex the Midianites, and smite them"

Yet another group of people God refuses to help.

Joshua 11:21 "And at that time came Joshua, and cut off the Anakims from the mountains, from Hebron, from Debir, from Anab, and from all the mountains of Judah, and from all the mountains of Israel: Joshua destroyed them utterly with their cities."

Joshua, with God's permission, goes on a killing spree with his men and destroys four different groups of people, all of which were not spared because God did not favor them. They may have sinned, however I doubt that every single person, including women and children, were needful of a horrific and painful death at the hands of a "loving God".

As you can see from the above scriptures, God has been excluding people from his love and assistance from the times of the book itself. I may have only been using Old Testament scriptures, however as they are from the same story, it shouldn't matter. This is just to prove that God doesn't help everyone and will never, and only helps those he favors. Through all the bloodshed and killings, we can see God's true unhelpful intentions towards others.

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Science has never tested the parameters of God because it is a spiritual belief backed-up by only a single book (or more depending on your beliefs). There is no science involved with the Bible, only pseudoscience at best.

Considering we've got this far and we now know that the universe is quite a bit older than 6000 years, I think your argument on how it's a safer bet to belief in God is flawed, as we have been able to point out a large amount of flaws hidden within the various spiritual books.

2 points

While cartridges cost more to make, I believe they are better. A cartridge can't break as easily as a disc can, and they (at least in the 90's) had very few problems with load times when compared to rivaling systems. A cartridge also varies per system, creating a new design mold per console, allowing the games to be easily differentiated. You can tell a Genesis game from behind easier than trying to tell a PS1 game from behind. They also prevented the need for multiple discs for one game. Overall, for their durability, efficiency and general overall appearance, I believe cartridges are better in gaming.

2 points

Assuming that by atheist you are referring to a lack of religion, you aren't born with any specific religion. You may be raised with a religious view from a young age, but you aren't directly born with a religion as you haven't been introduced to it yet.

2 points

Which ones, Sandy Hook is the only one which comes to mind.

1 point

Pardon my language beforehand.

You're a piece of shit, idiotic, annoying-ass retard, but enough about RandomDude, I'm here to roast bemagic. There's only one way to roast bemagic, and it's in an oven. Adalia Rose has more balls than bemagic, despite their similar diseases. The car that best describes bemagic's appearance is the Pontiac Aztek. The most positive thing in bemagic's life is HIV. I hope one day bemagic can finally fall into something comfortable, hopefully a coma.

To be fair, most of these are jokes I wrote in my spare time about RandomDude. No offense to you meant.

1 point

While we're on the same side here, I feel I have to point out you're a little mistaken here. No one in Canada is allowed to possess a firearm with the exceptions of the police, government, hunters and so on. We also happen to be extremely safe, safer than the US I'd say. Just because we don't have immediate access to guns doesn't make us unsafe in this case, as we're under no real threat at all.

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Guns don't kill people, more often than not the government kills people. What they're trying to do is take away guns from innocent people just trying to protect themselves, while they get to keep and use any guns they want. It's an attempt supposedly to reduce murders after Sandy Hook, but in all honesty, I doubt the criminals out there would just give up their guns to the government. Once again, this whole ordeal is just another way of stripping the people of their constitutional rights.

1 point

The show's gotten to be quite tired over the past few years, especially when they put Ellen DeGeneres as a judge.

I also agree that Nicki Minaj and Mariah Carey need to go, just adds unnecessary drama to the show.

2 points

So, you believe bats are birds? You believe it's right to sell your children for cash, or to own a slave? Do you believe Jonah was swallowed by a whale and was regurgitated after three days of being inside the whale's stomach? There are some parts of the Bible even the most hardcore Christians will dismiss, saying you believe it's all true it a rather difficult thing to say.

0 points

I wasn't wrong for entering a debating website, where you are allowed to enter any debate you want if you have something to say. You may have never corrected his spelling before he did, however you corrected his spelling without even taking a look at your own. I wasn't doing anything wrong by pointing that out.

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I'm not the one getting overly angry and swearing at you, now am I. Too bad you can't block me here either.

Not only did you forget the comma, you didn't even heed my recommendation to remove the unnecessary space in "douchebag".

1 point

If you're going to attempt to knock someone, don't do what you're knocking them for. I'm not an idiot, I'm pretty sure most people here think I have more common sense than you.

I'm not going to waste my time with such an angry, obnoxious child anymore.

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"Oh, and you say that I don't know how to spell, yet you spelled douchebag as two words."

It doesn't feel too good, now does it?

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Oh! And....

You would know how to use proper grammar if you managed not to start a sentence with "and". Case closed, thanks for being a hypocrite.

1 point

He corrects others for their grammar quite frequently, usually also featuring poor grammar and spelling. Despite this, he had the nerve to say "As I've said a million times I DON'T CARE ABOUT FUCKING GRAMMAR OR SPELLING". A perfect example is listed here:

http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/ is_jesus_the_reason_for_the_season#arg338323

In short, this guy's a bit of a hypocritical nutjob.

1 point

It has? Please direct me to the evidence of this happening, as I was not aware of this. I require proof because I cannot believe something if there's not evidence to back it up. If my daughter was molested by my uncle, it's a different category as that is a personal depiction, where as the Bible is a written depiction. If my daughter is showing signs of molestation, I'd know.

No worries on the punctuation, I'm not one to judge. Just a year ago I would have had similar grammar to RandomDude. As long as I can read it, I'm not overly concerned. I'm not sure what the last statement is referring to, however I don't think love to one another is provided by telling gays what they can or cannot do. Please provide the link to the Noak's Ark discovery as I am very curious.

4 points

Noah's Ark is scientifically impossible. There is no way an old man and his family could have placed two of each animal on one boat. How did the penguin get there, how did the kangaroo get there, we're left not knowing. Unless the animals were just beamed out of the sky, there's no way that two of each animal could have got there. Musk oxen require cold environments, alongside many others. How did he manage to get proper temperatures for the animals without causing deaths of others? Some animals cannot take the cold, while some cannot live without it. Food is another issue I have with this story. A good example of this is the koala bear. The koala bear only eats certain eucalyptus leaves, and basically nothing else. With an animal as picky as the koala bear, did Noah go out on a hunt for all the food for every animal? What about the animals that eat other animals, how did he manage to get a fox from not eating moles or rabbits? This story requires a LOT of faith to actually believe it happened.

The one major problem I have with this story are the dimensions of the ship. An estimate I found says Noah's Ark was believed to be 45x450x75 feet and made of wood. How is it possible that within that small of a dimension that Noah was able to cram his own family and two of every animal, including elephants, giraffes, lions and other massive animals, and enough food to last them on their long trip. The likelihood of the boat even staying afloat that long with all that cargo is slim to none, but it's also impossible to carry that much cargo on this tiny boat.

If he was skilled in creating such a big ship, it's likely others would have also had boats at the time. What happened to them, did they all forget how to use their boats? If Noah and his family were the only survivors, it's possible someone else could have also survived at least the flood itself.So, in short, the story doesn't match up to its claims. It's impossible he got two of every animal at the time, even if it was a considerably smaller amount, it's impossible he was able to feed himself and the animals and make sure none of the animals died, it's impossible the boat was even able to float so long, it's impossible that all of the animals lived, and so on.

1 point

Just to clear up a couple things, I am not stupid. I am of average intelligence. The reason for my grammer issues and spelling things wrong is because of typos and not proof reading. I probably won't make much of an effort to improve this as I don't think the content I add to the internet is really that important. Also, I am currently in therapy for anger management issues. I was not forced into the therapy, it is completely voluntary. Can I get a second chance?

Stop bothering others based on their grammar when you can't be bothered to do a better job. When this happens, I will think about it.

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Personally, I believe evolution has opened new doors to us disproving incorrect statements found in the holy scriptures. With evolution, we now know things were around long before the initial estimated 6000 years and many other facts that can actually be backed up using evidence.

This probably has nothing to do with the given description, however I'm responding to the title of the debate here.

2 points

jesus was just a jew and he is in hell right now

'u' should be spelled 'you' and that is a sign of laziness. Also, there should be a comma after 'Honestly', 'Quit' shouldn't be capitalized, and 'ass hole' should be one word, not to mention that is a run on sentence and the structure is terrible.

You have the balls to comment on others' grammar when your grammar is worse than more than half of the people here. Please, before you go off telling people to put commas in, add some on your own sentences first, you hypocrite.

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well isnt this some hilarious shit! im sick and tired of telling you jack wagons on this site that i type fast and i dont proof read. why? because its the internet so who gives a shit. im not taking some damn test am i? get a life maggot brain and consider yourself reported!!!!!!!

i almost forgot, youre going to hell (no period here either?)

Well then.

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"actually i dont and that should be "and plays too much angry birds looks like youre the moron!

No, you spelled 'elementary' wrong and spelled 'too' wrong and then called me a moron? ironic, isn't it?

Maybe you should just stop throwing stones because obviously my grammar and spelling is better than yours. As I've said several times, I type fast and don't check for errors because who really cares? This isn't a test jack-wagon!

talking about yourself again? pathetic.

Still makes you look pretty stupid for calling someone a moron yet you constantly spell things wrong and make grammatical errors.If you want to play grammar Nazi that's fine, I accept the challenge. I'll start going through your argument waterfall and dispute EVERYTHING you ever spelled wrong, EVERY grammatical error, EVERY missing comma and period, is that how you want to play this out?

Not including all the commas you forgot to include. Hypocritical fuck.


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