"but when you jumped in to give your own life, you messed with the way things were going."
How do you know that wasn't fate?
How can you base your argument off of fate if it is impossible to know?
Everyone is crazy don't let other people try to tell you what reality is like it's all subjective to an objective experience
I would say studying religion is a very logical thing to do
Does it "Exist" Kind of, but not really. Its just a man made measuring tool. That's like saying do numbers exist? They didn't until humans made them up.
So while it does exist, its not really real
Kind of like what this company is trying to create www.magicleap.com
I have never seen a cat skeleton in a tree
UPDATE That shit was hilarious
God is against the laws of physics.
Lol, god exists outside of the physical universe, so the laws of physics dont apply to it.
God doesn't need a creator, he's eternal.
It exists outside of time and space, the universe, obviously, is within the constraints of time and space.
it is more likely that a rock created the universe Then that rock is considered god.
The only reason we attribute the word "god" to a creator is because there is literally no other way to explain it, and the word is different in every language so this point is kind of invalid...
God is a broad term....
Give them a gun and they can't help themselves!
That shouldn't have, but it did make me laugh
Well in these days god only knows we wuld have something on the news along the lines of "Teacher snaps and kills 42 students, then shoots herself"
Read "Physics doesn't apply in different dimensions"
Welcome to quantum physics 101
No.....................................
dont be silly
No, there does not have to be a beginning, there is cycles, but no beginning, when you put a beginning and end on things, you limit your mind, this is why christians are fearful of eternal torture because some ass hat came along and said god had to have had a beginning, he couldn't have existed forever, it doesn't make logical sense, and making logical sense, is where we failed.
edit woops, my bad, i meant to say the universe did not have a beginning, and it has no end, not god having a beginning
I dont do that hibby jibby bold shit so pardon me for not breaking your argument apart, but you are right, I don't know what other dimensions are like either, probably just full of colors and feelings and things like that, but feeling is everything, emotion and thought are powerful things
Do you ever think what it would be like if language did not exist, how our thoughts and general communication would be like?
That's probably what the other dimensions are like, it probably looks like my profile picture and they probably don't speak english there either
Suddenly I like you
I have to agree, thought gnomes are a possibility, why did I ever doubt you? By doubting you, i doubted myself, and for that... I apologize
Well I haven't been here in a while so I can't judge how he argues yet
But I am waiting...
What about ultraterrestrials like fairies and other supernatural things? :O
I never said that buddy, you might want to check which argument you are disputing, and besides, there could be an infinite amount of universes and we just happen to be in the one that is perfectly suited for life
You can't be serious? That's your reply? You do know about the higgs boson right? M-theory? Quantum physics? We exist on different dimensions, so get with it and give me a better argument
Well we are in the physical dimension but what about the other dimensions? Laws of physics don't apply there so how can you say for them to be true? How do you know the people claiming to know god are even perceiving the 4th dimension? How do you know they aren't perceiving the 5th or 6th or even 10th dimension which is where "God" is claimed to reside? Just because you perceive them in the physical doesn't mean that is where they are at
I wouldn't call it a being but there has to be a supreme force of some sorts that is in everything
well, yeah i know there are crippling disorders out there, but i did not know that, im sure that it is just a symptom of the disorder, but no less, it is terrible, and i had no clue the US DHSM or whatever is much larger than the rest of the world
i mean that i think all of these disorders are just labelled on and reated with chemicals to try and make people "right" no one is wrong really how can anyone know what makes a human right and what makes them wrong?
i personally beieve its an evolution/blessing and the men up top hand out pills like theyre candy to dumb down the population
I never said the logical was illogical I meant that illogicality shouldn't be disregarded in reality, because let's face it, most of us, if not all of us, have experienced something illogical, but once you face something illogical, it becomes subjectively logical, until everyone has experienced an illogical thing which would make illogicaity perfectly logical
The maximally great being is all of consciousness, every souls consciousness, the trees and the bees, the snails and the whales. You can't just "Pick" a god to follow you have to learn from all of them
i remember i said abby was cute once in a debate and i felt bad that i didnt compliment on your looks either because i didnt know you were sisters and i also didnt want to seem like a pretentious douchebag, but you are really pretty, just for the record
it must run in the family
Whaat? dude i was just ou there man i had to dock for refueling power
But ill be back! here you be at yo
Lol, you're too nice
But thanks, it's not really noone will debate with me its just theres not a lot of topics left to debate and all the topics have been debated pretty much.. and im kind of a shitty debater, but whatever im trying to think of a great debate
here scroll down to judgement, its wikipedia but whatever http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SodomandGomorrah
and here is ezekiel http://www.garvandwane.com/religion/
these are just sumaries of what happened, but if you look at ezekiels account, whethere he was out of his body or not, is debatable, but what he describes is ridiculously crazy lol
Nobody likes to debate with me because my beliefs are far out there and have no evidence or proof besides what ancient cultures tells us and somewhat common sense, or logical deduction and my personal experiences, which is understandable, but kinda dull
Lol sorry for snapping kinda ish lol, i didnt know what you were implying, but yeah, let me find the scriptures for those
im just referring to the pointless bickering on this site because the topics are so stale its no fun anymore
Ok but then you also had people warning the people they were going to be struck by god if they didnt change their ways, so what does that say to you? Did we see the meteor coming and calculate its trajectory to where it would hit the surface of the earth?
Also in the bible, when we thought the world was flat, ezekiel is taken up into space and he describes "seeing the rounds of the earth"
So we have to explain that one too...
more money=more intelligence bro
How can not hard to not understand is what this are
Maybe instead of debating pointlessly back and forth and calling each other dumbasses we can figure out what the hell the people in ancient times were actually seeing and describing
its called common sense why would you shed a tear, as in a rip, when a tear, as in a rip, was in the painting? you just have to think what would make sense
God doesnt have to be a deity, it can be something like this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tao
As for satanism satanism is about self, and as long as you dont disacknowledge (is that a word?) other people then its fine
And as for throwing the universe out of balance what about chaos theory and the butterfly effect? The slightest flap of a butterflys wings can cause a hurricane somewhere else
don't be either atheist or Satanist, don't be an atheist because then you will lose your feeling of the world and will only look for physical hard evidence, unless you already believe there is a higher power, and if you do, then don't be a Satanist because you don't want to focus solely on yourself, it will throw the universe out of balance!
he doesn't let anything happen we have free will to choose what we do, you may say he has predetermined our choices, but predetermination and foreknowledge are different things, he knows whats going to happen already, but he is not going to intervene in it because of free will.
Its just a little experiment
I looked at the video and turned it off as soon as it said "the truth will set you free"
Isnt this what the snake in the garden exclaimed? How can you believe that truth is to be known when you also believe at the same exact time that truth of knowledge is evil?
Its all misdirection srom, you can choose not to believe me and say I am in allegiance with satan, but Lucifer, is the angel of knowledge, the bringer of light, he only wanted to replace gods throne, but you don't have to replace gods throne in order to know what god knows, and as the bible tells us, what he wants us to know
The illuminati, in my opinion, was infiltrated by the churches in their early days, along with other secret societies, that sought to bring human consciousness to a peak. The illuminati are "enlightened ones" as srom said, but they are not evil, they are if anything teachers to intelligent species, and if you fail their test, then you can be stuck in a low state of consciousness, a la most of the population who sem to be enthralled by materialistic things, the illuminati, being "enlightened ones" would be akin to teachers like jesus and Buddha and what not. But unfortunately, if they exist, and are real, and have been infiltrated, then you need to figure out what you stand for, there is really no good or bad because they complement each other, but....
Who knows
Sorry to dispute you so many times but it really pisses me off that Europeans (mainly) for the most part out of all other countries look down upon americans as the scum of the earth, is it really wrong that we wanted to break away from tyranny and oppression? Because we didn't want to live under a monarchy? Yeah your nation is better than what America currently has become, but at Americas zenith you have to admit our ideology was and is the best, even though most of our country is brainwashed, it is not their faults, it is the leaders of the world who are ruining everyone, America just happens to be a backbone of the world economy
Here is one of the articles, but its not the one I was looking for, anyways, based off the article, it should tell you that (and I could be completely wrong but it makes a lot of sense) your country infiltrated the people who founded America
http://news.yahoo.com/
I hope you know that the british spy agency has collected almost most of the information surveilled on innocent people? I am looking for the link now, but you do know right americans came from your country to get away from what your country/nation of europe stands/stood for?
I'll find the article
Let me ask you a question - when did I say you said God is a being?
You didn't but you are trying to tell me that i am saying that god has to be a person, and i said its not, but then i said you are right, because "god" or whatever you want to call it, is in all of us, then you said how can god be in rapists etc... and i said because they are a part of life and without them we wouldnt know good from bad, even though i said good and bad are not realy good or bad, that's just humans putting morals on things
Animals dont think of things as good or bad, so why do humans? When a antelope is grazing in the fields and a lion comes and takes it away all the other antelope just dont care. Sure, some animals show emotion, like elephants, but even still, animals are perfecty fine being around each other unless one of them is hungry, and then its not even bad its just the circle of life
no it doesnt, like i said before, with nothing, there is no thing to involve with everything.
Nothing is a tricky word, like for example: there is nothing in everything.
Don't you see how that is a contradiction? Nothing can not be a part of everything because it is not a thing
no, your analogy does not match up with what i am trying to say, i know exactly what you are trying to tell me, but it does not work with how im describing my position
I aint no Christian BOY
But in seriousness, I think the 11th dimension is the zeroth dimension, they just didn't include it in the video
That without them we would be stuck in a state of ignorant bliss
which is dumb
i didnt say everything was holy, my beliefs are solidified in evil and holy, dark and light, the comparison is taking a life (evil) to giving a life (holy)
And dont go off saying so a rapist impregnating a woman is holy?
please, you need to understand, that when i say god, i do NOT mean god in any religious sense WHATSOEVER AT ALL i am sorry to get snappy at you but how many times will i have to tell you i do NOT think that god is a being or a person or any other common term you will put on that word, STOP getting so defensive about the word god, it is a WORD.
ive explained what i said 3 or 4 ties already to you, but you fail to see what i am saying.
Yes, killing and taking a life is inappropriate, but so is slutty little outfits on teenage girls but society seems to have no problem with it anymore
stop mixing my words, I never said god is a being, its an energy, energy creates everything, if you cant fathom the fact that rape happens in life, then move on to another argument, otherwise, stop trying to mince what im trying to say, you know damned well what im trying to say, but you don't want to face it
and the point is, its going to happen, yes it is horrible, but it builds strength, sure its a traumatizing experience, but you can grow from it, unless you choose to not grow from it and buld a seething hatred for the world which in turn will change you to the very thing you say is bad.
how can you disagree with killing? simple, you just say its not appropriate, and I didn't say its not appropriate, sometimes murder is necessary
Its not my opinion or my imagination, its an actual theory, buddy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godasthe_Devil
And no it doesnt require lsd it requires an open mind
I never said the world is pure joy, I said these things are intricate parts of life, and they happen, people will rape even if the majority of the population says rape is bad, it is still going to happen, people will kill even when we disagree with it
Yeah I stated that, but its not the universe that is bad, it just has bad things to it, but they are not really bad they are a part of life
I said a hippie is close WITH god, like, connected to it :P
my beliefs are very connecty dotty
Fine, youre right, but yes, there is god in every person, animal, thing, in the universe, the stars, the planets, they are all a representation of god, god has a wrathful side, god has a crazy side, god is illogical, yet logical at the same time
I thought you were a hippy? A hippie is close with god, fyi
Yes but i refer to god as energy I just say god because that's the best way to describe it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing
God can not be the absence of himself, well, if you want to get way into religious chitter chatter, he actually could be the absence of himself, and have become all of us
But what I am trying to explain is every thing, means everything (sorry) so how can you involve nothing in everything when there is no thing to involve with every thing?
God is not a person so half of your argument just flew out the window, god is energy, and energy is everything, energy makes up everything, good and evil (spiritually speaking) are energy types. we have to embrace both sides, we have to have evil in order to know what good is
hippies know about the circle of life, aka, animals kill other animals to eat them. Hippies know their body has to be in a healthy state, along with their mental state, by not eating meat, you are missing out on some very important proteins and nutrition. By worrying about the cruelty of animals, you are stressing yourself out because you are not doing anything to stop it (aside from signing some petitions here and there)
Pro choice? that's pretty much akin to human cruelty (think about it)
I consider myself a hippy, but I joined the war to learn more about life and the dark side of life, aka murder. To experience the fullest extent of human emotions, you have to give life, and take life. The 2 extremes of yin and yang.
So no, you are not a hippy! you are (no offense) A conformist! ewwwwwww
Lol, no, I have never done psychedelics, I was never even religious I just tried to figure out what the oldest religion on earth was one day and I came across shamanism and that's when my mind went for a trip
When we dream we are using dimethyltriptamine to produce our dreams, and DMT is the most powerful hallucinogen known to mankind, so if you can "learn" things from lsd and shrooms, why not our dreams? Our dreams are the ultimate entheogen
the talking snake was the embodiment of what is supposed to be evil, cunning.
You may call me crazy, but I like to account for what our ancestors said about "talking snakes" Add in talking snakes with UFOs and what do you get? A reptilian race that can shapeshift, now you're probably just thinking wow this guy is off his rocker, but almost every single culture, divided by thousands of miles, describe sorts of shapeshifting aliens. Like reptiles.
How does that happen? Chance? no, it has to be a global consciousness. Did every single race of humans in the past magically all dream about shapeshifting aliens that came and visited us? No, that's actually really stupid to believe
You can compare the talking snake as something that wanted us to know about the universe, to be like "the gods" which is depicted as the devil, but I think the opposite, I think it was good. You may call me crazy but I stand very firm in my beliefs and I tie in what we believed in the past to quantum mechanics today. Other dimensions, other universes, non physical realms
We know nothing about the universe. and science teaching us to not believe in god, is actually extremely detrimental because without the belief of the supernatural how are we going to learn to logically think about the other realms if we try to put our physical "only touchy feely" logic upon them? we will go insane if we try to explain it like that, that's why religious texts make no sense whatsoever, beause the universe doesn't make sense, and we try to make sense out of it
We have done a great job at explaining the universe, but with our recent discoveries we are having a very hard time trying to explain the universe in a scientific way. String theory can only explain how it works physically. The universe is NOT solely physical, and we need to understand this
so if you had a near death experience and you witnessed hell you would just dismiss it as nothing and not even think about it?
I highly doubt that it wouldn't bother you in the least bit of sense
how? intelligence has nothing to do with being brainwashed, that's being raised to believe these things, if any person you deem as unintelligible was handed every single religious text, and they were to study them, and then compare the stories with what we see in the real world, their intelligence would bolster ten fold.
that's the most ignorant thing I have ever read in my life, sir
How can you propose to have a better understanding of the world around us than people who are in tune with the metaphysical?
If you were in tune with the metaphysical you would be religious/spiritual. And I don't mean religious as sitting in a church
omg double post AGAIN----------------------------------
Andy you really need to fix this stupid double post shit :D
Here is how god/universe energy thingy a majigger whatever you want to call it is possible:
God lives in the tenth dimension, so please, watch this little 11 minute video for a great explanation
Yeah I got a 70 on it, so im pretty smarter than I thought I wasnt
doesnt he only make like 300k a year? If he gets sued he should find a new job, preferably in another country
Lol those little green guys are the green martians and the red guys are red martians, the blue ones are just simple little earthlings, theyre not really important :D
they did high tail it out of there didnt you see the epic super jump out of the building? Oh and this is all multiplayer, no NPCs whatsoever
Lol, you have to admit, video games are pretty crazy from when they used to be 2 little boards hitting a ball back and forth
where the fuck am I?
I was as huge contributor to this site >:O
I'm not too concerned actually, not as much as I thought I would be especially after reading this, I'm sure they have targeted some US citizens and not only foreigners, but meh, I know that I am definitely on the list for being watched, but I stand for true America, and if our leaders of this country have a problem with me getting huffy puffy about us becoming the next Nazi Germany, well... that's their fault
You cant talk to joecavalry like that!! Because of his amazing paperwork skills we won the fucking war!!!
But your boobies are really amazing(ly drawn)
Is that a self portrait? ((Besides the wings)
lol it wasnt bad, and idk if i was being sarcastic, who knows how many licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie pop?
being sarcastic about what? about being cells in some guys body?
creatures live at the north pole, along with peope, and there are creatures that live in the sahara, AND we have successfully sent bacteria into outerspace and it lived
idk what i was disputing either, but no i have not seen that episode lol i'll watch it on netflix
i never said i had god on my side, i have my beliefs which is to let people live without interfering their lives, i.e. not taking their rights away
Well thats fit enough for me to live in, i would be a happy camper
And yes, i said that last part on purpose
No im not actually taking away your rights because im expressing my opinion just like you.
According to article 305 of common sense: taking away someone elses rights requires that you throw them in a cell and take their freedoms. Or murder them.
You may have the right to argue against a fetus having no rights, but if you were that fetus then what? Would you still hold the same position you do now?
Taking someones rights away is inhumane and wrong, it is in no way right whatsoever.
And, fine, you do have the right to take others rights, but they have the right to defend their rights by murder.
So yeah, don't complain when you're dead because someone used their right to kill you for trying to take their rights away, i mean, it is their right after all.
While I haven't thought of it that way, I have thought something like that before...
what if we are just cells in some guys body and this is what it looks like?? o.O
Ok, but im not taking away your rights am I? no, im telling you, you cant take other peoples rights away, NONE of us have that right
Do you think you are entitled to have the right to take away other peoples rights?
well it has to be, suns only have one safe zone.... but when they are in the safe spot, or whatever astronomists call it, then it is perfectly viable.
If life was everywhere we would probably have planetary invasions daily.
How can you say the universe isn't suitable for life when it is the only place in the universe that life has actually sprung up???
im not telling people to obey me, im telling them to listen to what they are saying, because its ridiculous
No I am not seeing the contradiction, how is it a contradiction, and what you said isn't?
I am gladly waiting for you to explain that
