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That would be great it would at least guarantee that there would be money for you when your old. Only problem is that there is no money in the Social Security fund all of the money paid out is through debt, they will never do it becuase you can't actually give something monetary when it's a giant ponzi scheme.

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No Aliens do not exist there has been no evidence of it. Any hope for Aliens is a goverment cover up to hide classified technology and aircraft.

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I don't think they need to go be making laws banning that, that would infringe upon freedom of speech. It's just not the right thing to do no matter how much you disagree with the deceased. Have some respect for the families that are grieving.

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What makes you think that it would only be China? China and Russia are buddies. I could see them partnering up maybe with some other countries that despise the western pro Israel nations.

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Simply yes it's very possible. 1.6 billion people entering into a Socialist capitalism. That sentence is quite the anomaly. It could come down to finally the world defaults on the government bonds because of sovereign debt issue already in the works China holds most of those notes. What would you do if you are the only country that has a powerful economy and you owned the worlds debt and they defaulted on you? You would feel empowered to go in an get some of your debt back. As pertains to US? How can you attack the US without actually attacking it? You attack Israel. Prophecy an army of 100 million stand and the top of the valley of Armageddon. I believe this to be China with Russia

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I think the fabrication you should be focused on is the deception that dinosaurs lived millions of years ago, it's hard to prove that dinos lived that long ago when they are finding soft tissue and red blood cells in the bone and marrow. Or that stalagmites take millions of years for the earth to make. When they only take a few decades to grow in enormous lengths. It's easier for humans to look at something and have man make a theory about it so that it takes away from us realizing that God created it.

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I have left enough evidence of Man and Dinosaur have always lived together and so I will rest on this. I know some of you are saying thank you. But i understand how this is hard for some people to digest and some of you with very angry responses and it is because of this passage that is true and hits every human on the planet to the core and on this subject as well why it angers a lot of you.

Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.

I wish the best for all of you i like all of you for and against, good debating on this.

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I have and the dating is badly flawed you just chose to ignore, and the snippets i have used have come from NAT GEO and other non Christian findings. So your answer to the ancient drawings and Marco Polo and everything else related to a perfect dinosaur was just there imagination? How did they perfectly draw a Triceratops and Brontosaurus not to mention many others. If it was their imagination I would agree with you only if that now in the 21st century we didn't have exact matches of the Dinosaurs bones and perfect full models of what they were drawing in caves all over the world from 500 to 5000 years. That's pretty hard to dispute that fact. I never said that they discovered fresh red blood cells show me in any of my post i said that. They discovered Hemoglobin in the bone tissue and it was red and visible and that the bones still were somewhat flexible. They said it goes against everything they know about fossilization and this should not be visible after so called 65 million years.

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The Montana Trex still with somewhat flexible bones and hemoglobin red blood cells look it up for yourself you will find it quite interesting.

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There has not been one single proof of any human bones or remains that the Scientific community has said this is it that have dated back more than 5,000 years. The latest attempt failed with Ardi after rushing to judgment and hopefully finding their grail of evolution but only short after with studies from the Scientific community agreed only to be not human just an ape.

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If you even looked into what you are saying this dinosaur is small and the natives have say they have seen it. The Congo is so remote and so dense with vegetation that there would be plenty of food.

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Not enough evidence just look at my last post I have put up cave carving sand man made dinosuars out of stone from all over the world from time periods of 500 tp 5000 years ago.

http://www.genesispark.com/genpark/ancient/ancient.htm

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Once again just another Ape. Ardi was rejected as human by most scientist. Just another Ape. Not human. Discovery channel stop playing it. Anything by Time magazine how can you ever trust then since the fake ape man hoax of 1912. And Nat Geo as well.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2010/05/28/scientist-smackdown-did-ardi-change-the- story-of-human-evolution/

http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/post.cfm?id=scientists-scrap-over-the-place-of-2010-05-27

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When we continue to lift the vail and pull back the curtain and deny God into are lives for greatness it is then we bring on suffering to ourselves by denying God. Man brings suffering to himself not GOD.

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Read some and look at some of my last comments. I'm having fun on here if even one person opens their mind and looks at empirical evidence in ancient history to Marco Polo, Job, dinosaur drawings in caves all over the world you have to honestly say how can that be? The big lie tells us that the first dinosaur bone was found 1787. So if that's so then how are there literally thousand of references of Dragons or Behemoths mentioned and drawn out all over the world. Here is the cave drawings in Arizona and other places that are artifacts 500 to 5000 years old. Unless they had an incredible imagination i don't know how they where able to make such perfect dinosaurs of what we have today in that of Fossils. I don't have to justify anything it's pretty obvious even to a non beleiver when i show them these things most people are never aware. I hope you open your eyes to this and see the lie the world is telling us.

http://www.genesispark.com/genpark/ancient/ancient.htm

Satan has control over the world, and the world is in the arms of the devil, where it lies fast asleep and carnally secure, ...

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No the way they date is extremely flawed how can it be trusted when it is well known among most Scientist that the way they date bones is flawed.

http://dinosaurs.fossilfinds.info/why-do-scientists-use-carbon-dating/

Heres's some more finding soft tissue in dinosaur there have been many found with soft tissue and still visible hemoglobin. Ever hear about the Montana TREx they found bones where still flexible. HMMM! how could that be? Anyway here is another article about the horrible flawed mess of dating and it is only still just a theory not proven fact by any means. Good article to read you will note was still fresh red blood cells. Which don't preserve for millions of years.

http://www.angelfire.com/mi/dinosaurs/carbondating.html

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/dinosaur.html

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http://apologeticspress.org/articles/3806

Marco Polo referring to Dragons back then that's what dinosaurs where called or behemoths. Heres another interesting article from Nat Geo I think this is non Christian enough for you. Read this and see what the Scientist. It has rocked their whole theory they still don't have an answer for this. The TRex bones where still flexible and there was still soft tissue in the bones and still hemoglobin. How could that last 70 Millions years? Because there not 70 million years old or even close.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/ 2005/03/0324_050324_trexsofttissue.html

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The word dinosaur was not even created until about 1840 prior to that they where referred to as Behemoths, Dragons and Tannins. Dinosaurs are not millions of years old. How do you explain soft tissue in a TRex that was found in Montana still with hemoglobin and flexible bones? Scientist are baffled because there is no way that it could last for 65 millions years as the great lie is continued to be told.

What about Marco Polo in 1290 ad when he went to china and wrote in his journal which is still in existence today he talked about dragons 10 paces long and how the Emperor was training them to cary his chariot

Or what about ancient Egyptian drawings of dinosaurs of Brontosaurus? Or how about the Inca stones which they carved onto rocks and places next to them when they died? There are literally thousands of drawings and written documents of only in the past 800 years where they describe killing the dragons and behemoths that live among us. In the book of JOB he describes a Behemoth Job 40:15-24

It's tail is that of like a tall cedar.

http://apologeticspress.org/articles/3806

About discovery in Montana there have been several dinosaurs that have stayed preserved. I find it funny what this one Scientist quote:"Finding these tissues in dinosaurs changes the way we think about fossilization, because our theories of how fossils are preserved don't allow for this [soft-tissue preservation]," Schweitzer said.

Oh really all the way up to now this was in 2005 better go back to the drawing board and wrap their brainwashed heads around this one. It's because they never lived millions and millions of years ago. God created them on the fifth day with man. Only about 6 thousand years ago. If Dinosaurs existed millions of years ago then how is there so much evidence by ancient civilization that point otherwise?

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/ 2005/03/0324_050324_trexsofttissue.html

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Please provide some evidence that they have actually recovered 3 million year old human bones. I have done a lot of research on this and i have never heard of that.

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Alright dude i don't necessarily agree with you but I appreciate your response to an open debate logically. Government is not all that bad yes they do good things but it's when they overreach that is not good. Remember the money that government takes and gives to research comes from private sector. It's all good I gave you an up vote

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i agree with you in reducing military spending. When it comes to America I'm somewhat of an isolationist. We shouldn't be dealing in other countries affairs. Yes a job is a job I'm not saying Big government is all bad it's when they start to reach outside the boundaries and stick their hands even deeper in the private sector that. I have a minor in econ in college i thought for a while i would want to be an economist private sector is the most important thing to have in order to have a strong economy from private sector it makes all things possible especially government jobs. The people who work for federal and state would have incomes if it weren't for the private sector.

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You've never heard of government jobs?

Yes of course we all have. But where does those government jobs get their money from? Even a company that sells stuff to the government like Northrop or any other company that gets government contracts from. Where does the money flow start? It all has to be created in the private sector. None of these jobs would be created at all if it was not for complete private sector. Example of "Real Money" You have a restaurant I own insurance company. I come to your restaurant and pay you for a dinner. You have just created free market capitalism. None of that revenue you got was derived from government. You are now taxed that profit that you just made, most times 30%. Both you and I have business that hire and create jobs where money is created. Non of which we get any money from government because we are private if we did receive money from government we would be getting those monies from taxes which you just paid on when you made profit when i ate at your restaurant. That is the only way government can survive is by the independent business owner private sector with that money being created nothing else would be possible.

there would be no government jobs there would be no NASA. Look to any country that has overwhelming government jobs when you do you will see those countries have no currency strength and mostly impoverished because they do not have a healthy private sector in which they can take from in taxes and spend. so what do they do countries that have weak private they print out their own money more and more of their own money that they don't have to collect from private sector. Eventually what happens is that other countries like Germany, China, Brazil end up have better bonds and currency rate and become more powerful with what they can buy. I can go on and on but that would be a whole lesson plan. Let's hope that they reduce spending so that our currency doesn't keep dropping and commodities like gas, cotton, copper keep going through the roof. I'm not going to like to pay $4 or 5$ a gallon if that happens.

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If you break it down to it's essence every job created comes from private sector. Yes our government gives money to some companies like NASA and DARPA but that's money the government takes from private sector in revenue they take it and spend it and it creates jobs but the jobs from theses companies are the direct trickle down effect that comes from companies that are not government related. Every job truly created comes from non-government jobs. That is a fact you can google economics and the overwhelming majority of econ scholars would agree.

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what about the investment by the government in darpa or nasa?

They would never exist if there wasn't free market private sector money that they take by someone in taxes and give it to them. I'm not saying Government is bad for doing these things, obviously this is a good thing to have these and jobs being there. It's that the more private free money "Real Money" created on the free markets is the driving force the more we can sustain. when we get to a level where Government jobs is almost 50% of private sector we are at a turning point where it is unsustainable, and we end up like Greece eventually. That's why the deficit is a big issue right now, when those bonds come home to roost we are going to either cut spending or tax the shit out of people and business's more. Let's hope that they cut spending because if they decide to go after business more they will just move themselves to another more pro-business friendly country, which is already happening now. It's a scary scenario high taxes have never done nothing but create more poverty. Main reason is that rich people don't care where they live when a place becomes to much for them they get up and take themselves and employees to other states and countries.

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Dude your insane cause you don't' have a F&&# clue what you are talking about. You have no idea on how business works or how Government absolutely needs private free markets in order to function. If there are no free markets and money being made on the private sector in the Free Market Capitalism society then government can't issue bonds and take from taxes and spend it. Here i will put it in 7th grade analogy for you because I'm guessing that's your age. Imagine a farmer and he has a crop and that crop is the private sector. That Farmer needs the crop to flourish and prosper so he can harvest it to pay for his expenses and so forth. But if there is no harvest then that farmer's ability to pay for his expenses is gone and he has no credit cause the crop is no longer there. It's a crude analogy but simple.

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Yes Big Govco can create by how much they want to pass laws on adding taxes and more regulation where maybe none is needed. They are the hand on the faucet whether they want to tighten and restrict or open up the valve and let more flow that being business wealth and jobs. From the policies passed down by government they the private sector "Market" makes adjustments on the framework allowed to operate in. If incentives are given and business is less burden markets respond in hiring and liquidity in the economy. When things are tightened and uncertainty with what Govco is going to do Markets sit on the fence and usually lay off and de-leverage, which is what is happening now. That is why I find it absolutely insane that they would want to raise any taxes right now in a deep recession.

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Econ 101: Umm first NO allow me to explain. When a private-sector worker creates something of value where previously nothing existed, the resulting new dollars inevitably trickle down to others through the goods and services he or she buys. But when a public-sector job is created, it simply means existing dollars trickle from the person who earned them to someone else — usually someone a politician considers more deserving.

The private sector creates wealth, the public sector spends it

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The problem right now is the lack of leadership in Washington and at the front of it starts with Obama. He is so unenthusiastic on his speeches. I remember the great president Ronald Reagan when he would speak the whole nation would watch him with optimism because he believed that each individual new best what was good for them and believed in the American dream. Ronald Reagan at the beginning of his presidency had over 10% unemployment ski high interest rates in the high teens and cold war with Russia. At the end was low interest rates unemployment to 5.3% and was the main reason for the end of the Cold war and the Berlin wall coming down. In his presidency over16 million new jobs and a huge expansion of personal wealth. He also did this with a Democratic majority both House and Senate. He also was the reason why people have the mortgage tax deduction on homes. If Obama wanted to learn how to be a good president he should take a hard look at him.

I guess the point of all this is that Obama plays the blame game and he has no reason too he had both majority in both houses but because of his weak leadership and policies and his hardcore anti-colonialist ideology he has separated himself from the average American and his own party. It's not just republicans voting against him I know alot of Democrats who are voting against their own party come this midterm.

I'm a part of that I voted for Obama and like many others we feel that we have been severely lied too about what he was going to do and that was focus on the economy with a laser like focus. Instead he wants to tax those who create jobs the small business anybody making 250k a year. Those people who make that much by the way are usually owners of a small business with 4 employees so it is absolutely ludicrous to think that this is good. It's so obvious to those out there and we will make our correction come Nov 2nd to stop all of his madness.

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Government can if they stand back and not mingle and choke business with too much regulation and taxes. Which is what Obama wants and is why he is going to get served Nov 2 he is such an ideologue that even then it won't sink in why he lost his majority.

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Do you know anything or do you just go by what you think or hear. It's called a cabinet they make the laws if doesn't even read them if it sounds good he signs it. My niece is a White House journalist i get all of the good stuff straight from the source. Most of what you here on the news and crap Internet media is just crap. Oh you mean the one for GM because they don't know how to cost average a business and let union workers run all over them so they become uncompetitive. Look at Honda, Toyota they don't have unions they build a better car and no bailout. GM is exactly what happens when you have to many entitlements a socialist based business. Eventually you hit a wall and run out of money.

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funny 306 days ago. What a joke he kick out lobbyist I'm LMAF! I know of at least 3 lobbyist personally here in my town they say it's better than ever. What a joke you believe anything that liar will tell you. for crying out loud he won't even show you his birth cert. Don't bring up that BS one on the Internet that doesn't show what hospital or DR delivered the man is a facade. That's why they are going to lose badly Nov 2 people are waking up and smelling it.

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So far all of your arguments are against the grain and you are wrong he has done something made things worde but come Nov 2nd we are going to throw a stop to him destroying this nation.

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Boy you are brainwashed, all the stuff you have mentioned does what for the economy, all presidents before him do all of the same rhetoric you are mentioning. Almost 90% of economist and business people a like say that OBama's policies and lack of business know how is what's making things worse. Good luck on NOv 2nd your going to need it. Obama is not the change Americans hoped for he campaigned in the middle and ran on the left. He's a socialist a Anti colonialist. That's how his dad taught him that's why he returned Winston Churchill's bust back to England his dad despised the Brits for colonizing impoverished nations. Obama is driving this country into the ground, worse president I have ever seen. He hates Amercia and so does his wife Michelle

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He has lowered taxes for who I have the list of taxes that are going everybody is going to pay higher taxes when the tax cuts expire unless if you make less than 24k a year. Married couples going to pay more across the board. So what taxes has he cut? NONE. He is a liar when he says middle class will not have to pay a dime more. Obama is the biggest BS president I have ever seen or heard.

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Think about that for a second. Economically conservative. meaning think before you spend try to show discipline before making a budget. The word conservative itself exudes caution and rational before making a decision.

Liberal spending and economics. Mean the opposite of conservative. example look at any state that is in financial trouble Liberal spending. Find me one red state that is in this trouble or possibly defaulting on bonds there are none. Proof

Trickle down is just a way of saying that Rich people create all the jobs that's trickle down. Because it sure can't trickle up never saw a poor person hiring people and passing on his success to others. Go read a basic book of econ.

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I personally have seen a ghost it was scary as hell and real. Ironically it was a small dog that came through my bedroom door and walked into my closet I watched it while i was in bed and I couldn't even move I was so scared finally when it went into my closet and disappeared is when I shot out of bed and ran out. Yes it was a ghost my belief though is that most ghost are demonic in nature and for some reason they can manifest themselves in ways.

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I don't listen to Beck and TV media or need to to get my information about the implications of the insurance bill, or the fin reg bill, and pray to god there won't be a crap and trade bill. All that is, is Big brother getting more of their hands on money. I attend a monthly business meeting and talk with business people in my community Business owners anywhere from 5 to 100 employees and we discuss what we are doing and what we are seeing. Every single one of them says the same thing they are confused about all of what Washington is throwing down on business and for small business to try to make sense of a 2500 page bill is not easy. So with all that being said private sector is holding back from hiring or advertising and holding onto cash so that they can stay in business because they are worried about the political climate and uncertainty about new regulations. The timing of all of this during a bad recession is making it worse and keeping things slow. Honestly we don't know the full implications of the Insurance bill, and neither do the politicians who passed it without even reading it. So knowing that we have to put our trust in the FED scares the hell out of business. When business is unsure about the the true cost and we are only relying on in hopes that the big GOV has done a good bill you can see why private sector right now is freaked out.

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The Bush tax cuts are across the board starting from low income at 20k a year and up. Also !5% to 20% capital gains tax affects anybody who invest in stocks which I do myself, and let me tell you it's not easy adding another 5% will hurt. I just think that the timing of this would be bad if they let them expire.

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if I give you $10 dollars you will more likely spend most of the that ten $10 But if I give you $10 and then tax you $5 you already have less to spend and inturn put back into the economy i.e. the private sector. So when people say tax cuts don't work they do it's as simple as that.

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This doens't quite go with debate but just wanted to let people know what our current President is doing behind our backs.

It is an insult to the American people that the Administration chose to make an appointment of this scale during a congressional recess. So much for their promises of transparency and openness.

Dr. Berwick, an advocate of government rationed health care, was nominated by the President to be Administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services on April 19, but Democratic leaders in the Senate have not even scheduled a hearing on his nomination. The public deserves to know how Dr. Berwick will handle an agency that spends over $800 billion in taxpayer money, but it is clear the President wants to keep his views and agenda hidden from the American people.

The President is right that ‘Washington games’ are being played with this nomination—but he’s misidentified the players.

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To help the economy put Congress on recess every time they go on recess and don't work on recking our country the economy picks up is it just coincidence?

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I have done the research everyone of those on the link you sent me are assumptions DNA does not match bones are of different species. That whole link you sent me is a theory based. I even looked further it is even heavily debated among Scientist.

Yet many so called intelligent people believe that the universe came about by pure chance. This of course has to include the galaxies, solar systems, suns, planets and the micro world of atoms, protons, electrons, quarks etc. Then we also have to consider the dimensions, 1, 2, 3, 4 and so on, plus all the natural laws, anti matter, dark matter and the code that make up the fabric of the physical realm. Now the human mind cannot even conceive of the scale of the universe, never mind thinking at such wonderful design came about by luck. To believe that all this plus much more, came about without a God/designer/programer is absolutely pathetic. This belief is worse than a fable or farytale, it is the most extreme form of ignorance possible.

Yes God has filled my mind and it's awesome!

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So if you believe in Big Bang or creation. I believe in creation. But where did all of the material come from if there was a Big Bang? Too many impossible answers for it to be a mere coincidence. Even if you do believe in Big Bang the chance of all living things and are planet and the Sun being a perfect distance away all of the things that require a perfect balance for life for it to be just lucky is impossible.

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Really species diverge all the time? Name me one. You must certainly have something in your arsenal such as an article or study to back this debate.

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The people who though the world was flat never read their bible if they did they would have known all along the world was round. If you look into Flat people they where for the most part non believers. Not all thought the world was flat Columbus didn't think so. The teachings of people actually thought the world was flat is less than you think it's that crap education that they feed you and believe it. Just like Columbus being the first to sail when it was the Norwegians centuries earlier but that doesn't make as good as a story as Columbus.

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It's actually 98% and the other 2% is a big deal. Did you know that we are also 70% gene like to goldfish as well. If evolution is for real then why not more intelligent species besides us, and i mean like real intelligence not like Dolphins or training your dog, god like intelligence that we have because we are created in his own image? Why would evolution only pick us to be that way?

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Dude they don't have anything of any ape like humans that prove that we came from them. What they have are monkeys and apes with different DNA and they have made the assumption that we came from them but there is noway they have proved this. I even ask you to give me one piece of your data to back this up Good luck in that one you won't find it. that they have said many times before and all a hoax. Ever hear of Nebraska Man or how about Java Man that Scientist said was the proof they even put it on the front cover of National Geo and Time. Nope all to be found a hoax. You know what evolution is? A lie. If you tell a lie the bigger it is the better it it will be received. Almost like the Holocaust just in our recent past but the further we get away from that more and more people believe that never happened it's kinda similar to that. Satan likes to per sway mankind and get people away from the truth. And yes gravity can been proven as fact I don't know how you are even debating that one. They know this because of they can measure the pressure of atmosphere and pull by the rotation of the earth by it's gravitational pull.

The world is to keep you in blinded by the truth. Here is one that you may not know. The FED sounds like it's government. No actually it's not. It is a privately held corporation that controls all of our money and has nothing to do with our government. They like the sound of the FED because if they called it what it really is a private bank that answers to nobody and controls all of everything with money people would freak! It's all about looking through to the truth. The world wants to keep you, us in a fog.

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Inca Burial stones are not a Hoax if you would have done any valid and decent research you would have noted that it has been logged by Time magazine, us dept of paleontology, Nova, plus hundreds of scientist that have excavated the graves and documented all it. It is a mystery for most that can't explain it, if you don't believe in creation then I can see how that must be hard for those people to wrap their heads around this one. just to mention a few. People like yourself hate hardcore evidence such as this because it makes you have to think with actual reason of how this can be.

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Look i used to live in Chula Vista California it's really easy to spot most illegals for one they are mostly mexican and can't speak on word of English. Two when you see them standing on corners in US looking for work at $5 an hour and I have watched police drive right by them without even one notice to think that the law is racist or discriminates it doesn't it's very obvious when you live there who they are.

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you mean the attorney general Eric Holder who admitted that he had not even read it. Most people in America have no idea how bad it is until you go there. Just look at the numbers that are caught on a weekly basis and those are the ones we only know about. If all of the people who are for the Feds backing this then you should let all of the illegals come into your state.

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In as few words pretty embarrasing. One term president thank god. Fiscal conservatives going to take over.

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I ask the same question because the response is so stupid like one of them stated it must of been their imagination. I like to hit the point of the other theory i may sound repetitive because it drives a point that makes people get out of what they think their comfort zone is or what they think they know. Then I pop up and show credible things that must have an obvious answer but it rocks peoples world when they are confronted with something that makes them think otherwise.

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It's the democrats who want to get their illegal votes. For those of you out there I love Mexican people and I lived with an illegal family in California for almost 2 years and what they like most about being illegal is the lack of pressure for them to leave and if things get tough here for them, they know that there is no record of them and they can bail back at anytime and there is nothing we can do to track them. Whether it be something illegal they did or if they rack up financial debt they can't pay going back to Mexico is the like their emergency country. This i know for sure living in California I have at least 12 personal stories of illegals that I know where this was the case. Theses where the good ones that worked hard forget about the other type of illegal that have a different name.

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Considering that Obama nor Eric Holder have even read the bill if they did they would see that all it does is copy the federal law. Arizona bill is only 19 pages I guess it was too much for them to read. This administration is joke. The Obama regime will lose big on this one. Anybody ever gone to the border if you lived there you would see hundreds of Illegals crossing everyday and wonder why nothing has been done. We would go on vacation to Mexico and when we would drive back at night we would have to slow down as we entered the US because there where so many that would cross the freeway I would hate to have one of them splat on my windshield and I would be horrified if that ever happened but they are coming in droves they come here Illegally. Look at the Mexican law if what would happen to an American if we did the same there laws are brutal. All we are asking is to secure the border against people coming here illegally why is it so hard to figure that one out?

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History channel had a good peice on Mokele-mbembe which natives have seen in the congo the area is the size of Arkansas. They have recovered footprints but because it lives mostly underwater it is hard to find.

Supporting Evidence: Living Dinosaur (www.mokelembembe.com)
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Doesn't salute the flag

doesn't cross his heart when saying the pledge of allegance he's a liberal and no other liberal points that out and think it's wrong. Any questions? God must be a conservative at least somewhat!

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it's not absurd i just used this one because is pretty good. The Inca stones are a real thing and are reference in over 1,000 archaeological journals as a real thing.

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oh well excuse me for my misspelling. First off gravity and evolution are two separate things. God made gravity so we wouldn't float off. God made animals and animals can adapt. Like a salt or freshwater Alligator same species but an Alligator will never turn into anything else. Do you know they have still not have any evidence or bones of ape-man that have not been a hoax. And all of the prior ape skulls and skeletons that Science has posted out there to be the missing link have all been scams, So unless they are able to provide something that is not a hoax than evolution is a theory. Gravity is not a theory because we can prove it. It exist! Big difference! You don't' see dinosaurs today what about whales, alligators, snakes? How do they know we arrived 10 million years ago? If you believe in Big Bang? What is your answer for the Inca Burial stones and how they where able to carve Dinosaurs on exactly? Think about evolution for a minute. big bang rained for millions of years then from the biological soup that was made from all of the rain and minerals life formed. We started in water as a fish then as a frog like creature then to an ape and then to a man. I'm sorry that is impossible to prove or even believable. But if you told me that our God who loves us created us in his own image and that he would give us dominion over the world and animals we where created. To me that is much more believable and possible.

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Carbon dating is incredibly accurate, very simple so there is almost no room for mistake, and yes, it works on bones.

So incredibly accurate, once again are you a Scientist? Quite the contrary is not accurate. Even by secular views carbon dating is only good for maybe 60,000 years at best.

When you type in carbon dating and if it's accurate over 71,000 hits on carbon dating not being accurate so if it was so exact and NO ROOM for mistakes as you say then there would be no question. Here is a link to a non Christian case NY times it talks about why carbon is so hard to predict and we don't know carbon levels of the past. I figured coming from NY times is enough liberal paper you can trust. Do some research first with a link I studied it and they don't use carbon dating when dating Dino bones. So unless you are talking about something that is not more than 60,000 years old.

Supporting Evidence: Why carbon dating is inaccurate NY Times (www.nytimes.com)
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I meant to say examined the blood bad choice of words on my part. Claims aren't so absurd if your argument for how the Inca new what to draw are based on their imagination only. That sounds absurd to me if that is your only theory. The argument of that there where no bones around and the ones that where are millions of years old explains this still doesn't make sense.

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What have you talked to Scientist on both sides of carbon dating? you would have two great arguments on both sides on why it is inaccurate or accurate.

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No not really, Flat earthers I don't know what your refering to if people read the bible they would have figured out a long time ago that the universe and planets are round. Uni-verse one word.

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no not really. I think theirs a lot to science that is misleading. Actually there has been more misleading about secular science. Ever heard of Nebraska man what about the fake ape man that they said Science has proved and Time magazine put on the cover. Or even the 1912 ape man. All said that according to your quantitative data only all to be a hoax. I'm no desperate I'm actually having fun with it because it's amazing how rattled you and other people get when you see things that are curious and can't be explained. A lot the evidence I offer is actually makes people have to answer a question and it hits deep to your core which I think scares some people that maybe. Not so absurd if you give it some thought.

What evidence is their of the other? They still haven't proved otherwise.

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actually no I used to a non believer and when I see things that don't make sense that can't be possible if the earth is millions of years old. Yes I believe in creation based there is multiple scientific evidence to support it. Another is the pressure from which oil is in the crust, if earth was millions of years old pressure would be greater than what it is today. Both theories know this, one can't explain it creationism can based on belief. Inca stones I told you your basing the millions of years theory by which I just explained to you is flawed they don't actually date the bones put the dating thing aside because that's where you and I disagree. For arguments sake at least you could then acknowledge and hold on to millions of years ago on Dino's and then say that maybe they still lived when the Inca where around. Otherwise you ignore the basic of how else would they know how to carve exact replicas of what we know to be our old fossil Dino you are like many that hold on and are stubborn to come to a conclusion even when such a fact hits you squarely you can't honestly answer it. The lie of the Dinosaur is a brainwashed fascist teaching that in-doctrines incredible fallacies. Like wiki and other links you have supplied are the part of those. And yes I believe the Universe is extremely complicated so complicated that it couldn't have happened by just a shear chance. Even the angle and pitch and degrees away from the Sun if we where even a few degrees off on angle and distance we would not exist the balance is perfect for life. But you know by your accounts was just a Big Bang and we got lucky somehow for all of that to fall into place yeah lucky us. Ultimately Big Bang earth cooled it rained for millions of years and because of the rain mixing together with all the the elements created a biological soup that we crawled out of. WOW OK that nice to know I have in common with a rock as my ancestor. That in a nutshell is the evolutionist theory how can you prove that we came from a rock?

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Muslim aren't Christian how do you compare them together when they are at complete opposition to each other?

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once again they don't date the actual bones they date is using the rock around it. Which even then the rocks aren't that old the Idaho Clay doll in Idaho that they found in a rock supposed to be 320 million years old. The hand tool found in London Texas Scientist dated the rock with Isotopes thought to be 75-100 million years old only to find a hand tool in it so the whole dating thing something has got to be wrong. But when their wrong on discoveries like this they don't even think about discredit of their techniques used.These are only a few out of hundreds of discoveries like this. This would mean that they would have to re-write everything if they even gave credit to it. Follow the tax money there not going to buck that Juggernaut. Also do you know how many times they have re dated something because from 100 millions years to 1 million years a lot. Well gee thanks how is it they where off by 100 million years? It's because the dating is BS.

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We can go all day about the hypocrisies of dating. Have you seen the so called dated 75 to 100 million old rock that they found a iron tool in the middle of it? That is there you can't deny it. If i take heat and pressure I can make a rock really quick and put it up against radio isotope if i never told you where the rock came from the test would come back millions of years . There volcanoes that make entire islands with rock using the same technique and they date the same. Just show me something Else that you can prove. Oldest tree or oldest living reef the great Barrier reef only said to be about 4,800 years old. If the earth in it's present form is millions of years old why not an older reef or an older tree? Bottom line you still don't have an answer for the Inca stones. I have been to the La Brea tar pits in LA there is a huge pit of bones the pit starts at the surface and goes down hundreds of feet. Looking at those bones in the pit only several feet from the surface and they are supposed to be millions of years old? I don't think so. Also the radio isotopes of dating don't actually date the bones they date the rock around it and even that test can be fooled i can go and add the elements and make a rock and the test would come back and say that rock is millions of years old. We did the radio isotope test in college and it's very flawed. Look for yourself on how they date bones. They don't I can tell you for certain the bones I looked at La Brae tar pits in LA where not millions of years old. That's another way they GUESS the age is by how deep they are another flawed way to date. So check the facts you are taking the secular view without even digging deeper to find the truth. Bottom line if you don't believe in creation then it's only logical that a non-believer would say that something took millions of years to make it's easier to discredit and make those assumptions when you don't believe that God created the galaxies. So either God created you or evolution Big Bang it rained for millions of years on rock and created a biological soup which from that humans came from.

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That is so laughable so I guess they were able to exactly draw and figure out what they look like do to pure imagination? Are you listening to yourself? They must have had esp or something to have perfectly drawn a triceratops and a brontosaurs or maybe aliens came down and told them what to draw. And yes they have pulled hundreds of fossils from central Peru which is in the area of these stones. Here's a link to show you that. http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/world-news/dinosaur-footprints-fossils-found-in-central-peru_100153132.html

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How do you like the fact he has denied skimmers offered from other countries to help with the oil spill and he won't let them because of the Jones act?. quote Obama said to Florida Senator.

Florida senator: Obama told me we can’t deploy oil skimmers because they might be needed elsewhere. Nice! Thats like me calling the fire dept to come to my house and put out the fire because it's on fire and the fire dept says they can't because they might be needed to put a fire out in the future that they don't know about yet but if they did then they wouldn't be able to because they would be putting out my fire. Come on Jessald even you can say Obama has failed here.

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So is the economy more stable now? The evil banks and the taxpayers just made 10 Billion off Citi that report came out today. So when Obama plays it like taxpayers were on the hook for the bailouts and that it cost us. Umm no Obama i think again he doesn't know what he is talking about when is relates to the banks. What he should have said that we will never get the money back from the unions he supported because they are bankrupt but you won't ever hear him bash his union lobbyist buddies.

Oh wait he has done something for the Oil crisis instead allowing oil skimmers to come here he would have then to get rid of the Jones law temporarily so that it wouldn't impeded his loyalty to his Union buddies. Even in a crisis he stays true to his unions voters. It's sick. If Bush would have done this people would be wanting his head.

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Heres a link a Scientist who was there. Also wanted to note if you scroll half way down they found tools in limestone that they thought to be millions of years old. The theory and scientific data of the metal also adds to the scientific study that the atmosphere was different back then a vapor barrier that compressed air much like a hypo Barack chamber they can tell this by natual science and also by the metal. They have discovered many artifacts from people in rock they say are millions of years old. Also the Idaho clay doll found they drilled into a rock in Idaho US they believed to be 320 million years old and they found in the middle of it a clay doll. I guess Barbie had ancestor 320 millions ago. Also note the giant human femur bone found an proven to be a giant human femur bone people live long and big back then not being exposed to harmful rays and also living on a planet with twice the oxygen.

[http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/giants.htm]

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I want to reiterate the stones found Inca stones are their burial Stones many of the stones where found next to the bones in the graves of the Incas at the time of excavation. Over 11,000 stones kinda hard for that to be a hoax, doubters. Here's a video kinda long but he was there doing it and shows the actual dig and the stones next to the bones. He goes on and shows many others with more actual evidence that this is true.

Here's more proof. Try to say this guy is not telling truth your fooling yourself.
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Without me having to type all of this in I'm adding a video that perfectly explains the evidence of the Inca stones and also Dino blood found and exhumed the reference of the Scientist and report is there so if you think this is a hoax you can look at the article yourself. Proof Dino lived with us. Millions of years ago. LMAO It's funny how in there they mentioned the Evol Docs only wanted to take the ones they new where copies, but even then they were copied from the originals.

simply explained the Incas and data clips to back article
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peyDbPqBY2w

I have referenced inca stones and Paluxoy riverbead. But there are literally thousands of ancient drawings of dinos all over the world on pottery, ceptors, clay models dated back 1,000 BC. millions of years ago I dont think so.

Utube quick video of ancient picuters of dinos man has
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What about the useless war in Afghanistan? I'm not a GW lover I think he made a lot of mistakes but when I look at what we have now he doesn't look so bad. All of the things that people blamed Bush for like deficits and the economy Obama has done done more than doubled all of that. Just because someone calls themselves a conservative don't throw them into the Tea party movement I don't associate myself with them. Just from my point of view as a former economist I can only tell you what the cause and effect is of political ideology how that effects overall markets and the overall markets are getting worse and they have nothing to do with Bush.

1 point

Pretty much we hear this almost everyday on the news. I almost believe he intentionally wants the economy to fail.

1 point

I could swear you maybe a terrorist in training camp. You live in Great Britian? Hows the conservative change in parities going, looks like you Brits may have figured it out after all.

1 point

Get that shit off. Socialism does not work. Just look what's happening to Europe right now with their debt crisis. It's ironic that you posted this 142 days ago and I'm now looking at it in relation to what is happening to the worlds markets it's because of Socialism that the system is collapsing and thats why Great Britain, France, and Germany all now are governed leaders who believe in free markets and the conservative party. I will say some Dems and Libertarians are also conservative. But this guy is going nowhere his idea just got pummeled in countries who had a Social agenda and now they have turned against. Once again how ironic that I haven't looked on this website for while to see you posted this 142 days ago. A lot has changed since then. Maybe you can see the truth to governing just by that mere fact. I will say one thing about this guys 32 minute speech a waste of time, because he was wrong.

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Lets look at what we have now. Worse economy people talking about double dip recession. A war that is a mess in Afghanistan. Ski rocketing deficit that our grand children are going to have to pay for. More confusion on less overall confidence in the US market. Obama has made things much worse. He goes golfing while people in the gulf need his guidance and help. I remember Bush giving up golf because he didn't want the moral of troops to see him golfing while troops died fighting. Quite a contrast from a President who was supposed to bring change that we can believe in.

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Oh Who signed for bailouts? Yeah Bush Oh guess what the bank paid them back with Billions in interest so it was in the best interest of the tax payers actually didn't cost us dime we actually made money from it a lot of it, so when Obama talks about taxpayers being on the hook for bailouts of the banks and that it cost us what the fuck is he talking about? He's saying that because he knows most people in the US don't have a fucking clue on banking, fractional reserve lending and most people just buy everything a politician says. Remember the amount of the bailout paid out to banks the government has made that money back with billions more to spare. Maybe he's talking about GM which they failed because of overpaying unions and Gm failing would have happened anyway. The banks paid it back with interest so it was a good thing. Weakest in history not even close the Great Depression. You need to learn more about the facts it wasn't Bush's fault if you even knew what you are talking about when it relates to business, governments and so forth. The last time the budget was passed was with Clinton but it was with a majority republican house and senate that did it. Oh and by the way one of the biggest reasons is the Glass/Stegall act that Bill signed that was a big part of adding risk to banking allowing banking and investment under the same roof, just to name one. I can even talk to about the capital reserve requirements which the whole talking economy thing about the US is well overplayed and some of the banks where forced to take the money, but I won't get into it with you on that I don't want to act like I know what I'm talking about only the fact that I'm somewhat of a nerd and study econ for the fun of it. To blame it on Bush tells me you really have no clue on this matter it was many things that was out of his control. It was a culmination on things going as far back as 1970 when the seed was planted with Fannie and Freddie. If you really take the time to go and look at the actual facts you will then hopefully become unbiased and you will be able to point the finger not only at the banks and wall street but 30 years of bad government policy. They all knew it was going to pop eventually but it's easier for them to just blame it on the bad evil bankers and wall street than to be able to point the finger at themselves. Just ad the fact to Barney Frank and Christopher Dodd taking millions from Freddie and Fannie right before the fall and then telling us only weeks before that everything is fine, and know these guys are the ones calling the blame. It's a sick cycle. What amazes me the most is that the real fault lies with the FED reserve. They are a private bank that has never been audited they control our interest rates make our money give loans to banks and we have never once looked to them for their practices. The FED is the one mainly to blame but it takes people who understand monetary policy to even delve to that one. Look i was not a big fan of Bush he did some good things and bad things but to blame him for this is just ludicrous.

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Obama laser like focus on jobs bla bla bla. Yes there is proof of this he was raised influenced and is good friends with Frank Marshall Davis, do I really have to type in all of the facts about that or are you just to lazy to go looking for the truth and even if the truth starred you straight in the face and smack you upside the head you would find someway to spin that ideology too. He may not be a pure Socialist but he most certainly was raised by one. We will never know really because Obama unlike all Presidents has sealed his records so I guess. Yes I will pay more in taxes by the end of this year when the capital tax rates expire. You want to see a welfare state mentality go look to Europe and Greece. Or should I say California, New York, New Jersey, Michigan next in line to help bailout them out. Look what pure Democratic power and statist governing does Bankruptcy. Dude you are so out there just pick your head up.

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The problem with Obama and his ideology which is based more on socialism we can't affor. The problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples money. All of these things cost money and go against the grain on free market the rest of the world is going to eat us up if we go this route we are going that Obama wants.

The rest of the world didn't hate Bush as much as you think, you should be more concerned about what we think here. How about Congress 22% approval rating right the lowest in history that concerns me more right now.

1 point

Mitt Romney before he was in Government had and created his business that created thousands of jobs boasted 15 billion dollar profit in the private sector. He has insight to how hard it is for business to start up and thrive and believe me it's not easy. If any of you are employed by someone other than a government or state job you need to look at small and large business and say thank you because we are the ones making your paycheck. Or if you work for a private business or corporation and rely on them for a paycheck your welcome.

Obama has never done any of this so how would we expect him to know how to fix it. We need to wake up and realize that in order to run a strong country we need someone who understands business. So the answer is a overwhelming yes that Romney would have been a better leader and president.

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A Fight I'm willing to have is Obama out of his mind. Does he really want to economy to get better? Why would he say something so asinine. Then if he is going to tear apart the banks then he needs to also tear apart the Unions for making GM fail and also for Fannie and Freddie which then he would have to go after his own lobbyist and tax them as well.

The vial has been lifted the wizard behind the curtain is showing is true character and Identity and the American public is seeing it before there eye. They are in panic mode. The ship is sinking fast and the rats on the ship become become more exposed.

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So just a few days after Obama has lost his Albatross in being that his health care bill is gone. He now has decided to pick on the banks and break them up or in his words "A fight Im willing to have". After the banks paid back TARP with the Government making Billions of the interest. Im sorry but has he lost his mind? Seriously! The Dems are using their usual spin factor and calling it either a vote for the people or a vote for the banks. Only an ignorant person would believe this. Do you know that most people have no Idea that it was Government Regulation forcing banks to lend because of the Urban Housing Act of 1978 and Barney Frank stating that it is everyone’s right to own a home that help put into gear the Stated Income loans which was the main reason why the crash happened. Those loans are gone now the economy wants to recover. But Obama is mad that the banks have paid back the TARP faster than he ever anticipated and he has no control over them, which in my opinion why he is going after them. He is a fascist to the core. Why can't he praise the banks for doing the right thing. Right now the economy wants to hear encouraging words. Not this and especially not right after today being that the Loss Jobs report was another 445,000 claims, higher than experts even thought. Love the banks or hate them our economy needs them to be strong and not attacked by our president. Just for the record I'm not a banker I just have common sense about money, business and confidence in which a healing economy needs. Which this President has done neither. I'm a Republican who feels betrayed by him, and I hate to say that he is one of the most corrupt Presidents that I can recall. This whole war on the banks is wrong. If that is the case then he needs to break up GM and break up the Unions which is why they have their downfall in overpaying dollars per hour in a competitive industry which can’t compete. Or Fannie and Freddie what about them? They would have to go after there own congressman and tax them. It is a part of government that should not be allowed selected punitive and punishing those companies unfairly to the rest. Please block his rediculous plan and Republicans need to be vocal about the real reasons why the economy fails, government interfering with private sector. Obama doesn't have a Friskin Clue on fixing the economy he is clueless to what business needs or what people want for the economy.

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Obama needs to shut his pie hole and stop talking about the economy on TV. He is killing any confidence out there when he is so targeted going after the banks and wall st. It is good when wall st and banks make money. As much as some people hate them, when they are healthy and profitable the economy and jobs are healthy as well.

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That was a straight kick in the balls. I don't see a lot of Democrats going to drink that Cool Aid now after seeing that just happen in Massachusetts.

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What will they do? Well hopefully now the Dems will realize if you can't win a seat in a state where the previous senator who's name is Kennedy and the health care bill has it's name after it. Even Massachusetts the bluest state of all can recognize that is awesome and shows that the we the people still make the final vote.

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Argue all you want but the scripture below calls it how it is. Hard to debate. Even the Koran goes along with it however their propeht is the wild man Ishmael

Isaac or Ishmael

Bible = Genesis 17:18,19 “And Abraham said unto God, O that Ishmael might live before thee! And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shall call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him”.

Koran = 19:54 “Also mention in the Book [the story of] Ishmael: He was [strictly] true to what he promised, and he was a messenger [and] a prophet”.

Bible = Genesis 16:12 “And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man’s hand against him”.

The Bible called Ishmael a wild man; the Koran called him messenger and a prophet.

Jews, Christians and Moslems follow the steps of Abraham as a father of faith. Abraham was the first human being who was so much in love of God that he was called “the friend of God” (James 2:23). He had such faith and trust in God that he became the first person with whom God make an everlasting covenant; as it is written, “I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee” (Genesis 17:7).

2 points

Yeah I know, you make all of the good points. I'm just tired of always being at war and war being the biggest reason why our country has racked up so much debt and loss of life.

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The Afghan war is on him which raised the debt ceiling even more. He had the chance to pull out and listened to a general that lied about Pat Tillman's death. Going after a country that harbors terror? What a joke what are we going to do that Russia couldn't do after spending 12 years there in a war. Nothing! 9/11 happened right here we go attack from right here. It's all politics and money for big business to get the big contracts to go over there and nation build. Highest polls ever 49% of the American population wants us to be more isolationist and focus the attention on what's important and that is the US right now.

As far as him saying he will start reducing the debt I will believe that when I see it. So far his promise meter is pretty low or next to nothing. Just like his transparency and putting everything on C span for the public to see and no deals behind closed doors.

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Yes he is. At least not making it any better. Did you watch the job summit. What a joke that was. Every business has been saying the same thing we don't know the rules of the game and fear of future higher cost of business because of tax increase. His rebuttal was well as soon as we can get these things passed then you will know. OMG it's not even funny. Private Sector has had 0% growth while the federal has had 2.2% for the year.

Honestly you want to help with Private Sector hiring then stop what you are doing with all of the entitlements that you are trying to put on the US economy. Obama you really want to help than get out of the way.

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Pretty ugly in my opinion. What has happened behind closed doors and the deal making in order to convince some Senators to vote whom normally wouldn't have is borderline criminal. How some of the Senators received huge government money to get their votes and other states left out, is that even fair or even been heard of on a bill of this magnitude? What happened to the transparency that was promised by Obama in case you have forgot here is a clip of him talking about how he would reform health care, and then ask yourself is this what you expected? This is the change we all hoped for.

One of many broken promises. Give him a break he is from Chicago
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He has done something. He now wants to take the TARP money which he said when it was to be paid back that it would go straight to pay down the deficit. He now wants to spend it on another Stimulus.

Switzerland today sat out on bond sale for US treasury notes. Did not buy one. Uh oh can I say like many others have said, told you so, watch the interest getting ready to climb up.

3 points

No his career is not over, but his quest to beat Jack Nicholas with 18 majors may be and his quest to be number one with most total wins Career Wins on the PGA Tour is now in doubt.

Sam Snead - 82

Jack Nicklaus - 73

*Tiger Woods - 71

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Mister guy I couldn't agree more with you. See even you and i can see eye to eye on topics. It's not such a bad world after all.


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