ok think about this then: god is outside human logic. if human logic is not enough to understand reality, then debating the existence of god is pointless. it is because of human logic that we arrive at the concept of god.

youll find in life that some people are born with a good brain, some with a bad one.life is nothing more than a shitty game of cards.

this is for the person who called me ''an ignorant assumption maker''. god is not real because ive been struggling with mental health issues for the past 4 years. ive had voices tell me, ''im worthless, i should die.''god is not real because ive had images in my head of being drowned by my father as a baby when in fact nothing of the sort ever happened. we are alone in this world. there is no eternal paradise. the quicker you learn and accept that, the easier life will be.

you seem to know alot.i can also tell ya that christianity is built on the foundations of old age pagan and hellenistic belief systems.

absolutely correct. religion is the best way to have reasons for madness. as someone else so eloquently put it: where will god go to hide from the fatal harbinger that is logic, rationality, and scientific understanding?

well why the hell not? people have made up all sorts of ridiculous fantasy creatures like unicorns,elves and fairies. cant people be happy and awe struck by the mere power of nature itself instead of holding onto 2000 year old superstitions? you claim atheists only use ''observational evidence'' to ''prove''things. sorry but thats just the way reality works.

if god exists why is there so much suffering and bad in the world?

if you think about it belief in god is a simple mistake of forethought and judgement,most people think "of course he exists,''. but then you run into a problem.if god exists,can you prove it. actually i have info from another site that states:if you believe in god then your probably in denial and suffer from ''wishful thinking''. see,if god exists, he must be perfect,right? well problem is well, many different things. you cannot simply group people into plain ''good'' and ''bad'' and send group one to heaven and group 2 to hell. people dont work like that. ive met people who have horrible mental problems and who have ''evil thoughts'' but theyd never act on them.

hey whats up wanna talk or debate or somethin?:)vfkbvibghb

very well spoken,finally someone who thinks outside the box, along with all my other fellow atheist debaters.he he he, that sounds funny:)

dude your so messed up, no offence? why dont you go suckle the teat some more junior.

oh,so your one of those strength -in- numbers type people.ok how about this:have you ever thought about the offering plate in church?why do they have to pass it? now heres a thought, why dont the ministers and members of the church get together and sincerely pray for the money they need? why do churches have to beg mere humans when they have god. now this is what god says in the bible:pray to me for anything and i will hear and answer your prayers. but heres the catch. he needs just one thing in return. i need you to tithe 10 percent of your income to me.etc.

pray that you can back up YOUR beliefs. i dont have ''beliefs'' anyway.

just factual statements about the nature of reality.

ok. i will. YOU BELIEVE IN GOD BECAUSE YOUR PARENTS TOLD YOU JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD WHEN YOU WERE LITTLE,RIGHT?

well, honestly, i have all the arguments against god right with me and i can debate this all day buddie, im like a fuckin 50 cal. locked n loaded so give your best shot,and oh, i own this debate, as in i started it, so I say who stays and whos banned and the only one i feel like banning is you with your degenerate old world beliefs.

i have a pet giraffe,his name is kiko, and he can fly like an angel

oh uhm oops sorry im new to this, im kaidon, maybe you were talking to someone else? but if you were talking to me , sorry i keep getting confused about which side of page to type on, my bad:)

hi, im kaidon aka a happy atheist, so whats your take on religion?

can someone tell me one good reason to believe a god exists, because ive looked everywhere and no one has a good reason

tell me,do you support jesus and the bible? if you do, then you are also a supporter of mass genocide on a global scale, as well as slavery, and killing of homosexuals.read the bible, and youll see its shocking brutality and its fallacies.

please people has anyone read the christian delusion by john loftus? its a remarkable book.

allah? wh7y not jesus? or shiva? or krishna or krishva or whatever other god humanity can make up to feel better about itself.

look at all the fatal car crashes alcohol has been involved in.

alcohol has caused major problems for this country. im sorry alcoholics are not worthless but seriously its bad for you, i mean lets smoke weed instead because its a lot safer and very beneficial.

oh why yes lets all drink ourselves into oblivion and become worthless alcoholics,yeay!!!