France is known for its culture to mock around people , i must agree this.
But what is the importance of mocking around people, why would you offend someone?
Why do you want to pull the trigger to someone , if you know that this person will go mad if you talk to him like that.
I understand that it is vital to have freedom of speech, to have cultural debates.
As we have different form of criticism , i highlight the moral critics here, about our ethic, and how we humans should live together in a "democratic country" imposing that mockery is important I really cannot see the importance. Because it will triggers some people's fury, as you may have insulted his beloved "idol, mother"
Oh, and something came into my mind so i'll throw this and go back to my subject ,
Also why did Dieudonne get jailed if he mocked around charlie hebdo? straight away after the shooting?! isn't that the same thing the magazine did? "incitement of terrorism" but apparently Dieudonne provoked blasphemy , to me it makes less sense
If i go on and you mock around my appearance, and i ask you to stop, however you dont, and continue to mock around my hole families appearance, there will be a high chance that I will become aggressive towards you.
David Cameroon said apparently to counter the pope Francis that" we should mock , and that if someone feels offended cannot do anything against it" because his ideology is that people should be free to "offend" in a free society.
Tomorrow I will then go on the street and offend everyone , starting from the queen Elizabeth(i will get jailed), then her family and son(i will be in court), I will then mock about every personality who affected many people and will publicize this(i will get hated and will receive death treats). Should I do that? I believe no, because this wont help us to move forward and live together whether I am the immigrant or they are, we can have mutual respect always, and make debate critically about stuff, without having to mock, because this just isn't the right way.
If those people want a caliphate let them!
UK's foreign policy and other western polices has left some Muslims feeling isolated and seeking an alternative solution.
I as a muslim believe in the concept of caliphate, I blieve in a true leader, as that person follows the sharia law, and the quran and sunna, we muslim have lived like that for centuries until the ottoman empire.
I do not know what to think of Islamic state for the moment, Yes they beheaded now the second american journalist, which i OPPOSE , as i think that person was having moderate view towards muslim and went to the middle east to report his news as freelancer.
However I can understand their frustration when for years their country have been exploited by western nation and become westernised, some arab nation live in constant war because of the western nation, or they suffer because of the western policies.
You kill one men, you get 10 more behind your back, I blelieve we as muslim , we have that heart, that if one muslim gets killed we want to revenge back our brother/sister and have justice, and dont talk about the UN because the UN Is very selective when it comes to who they help, and the right of veto is even more unbalanced and give the superpowers the right to dictate!
By seen a caliphat establishing itself and erasing fictional borders,by implement the sharia, well thats good for muslim, but I also have heard they have extreme views which is less appealing as the muslim man , is a juste man!
Sad but truth. Unfortunately even thr the media has this mass campaign on the hand and now businesses try to use it too
The same goes for the evolutionists. Stop your fallacies! !!!!
Well you can choose to believe it. Or not. Same as you don't believe in hereafter? Because i haven't died and came back from it i can't believe in it.
My point is you should be open minded perhaps. As reinforcing that believe will not take you to understand the subject.
Someone believing or having faith in religion will doubtly accept it. Someone who isn't will be sskeptical. Hard to answer......
Let me ask you how much 1+1=? 2
Yes this is a consensus we all have. It is logical, proven by all methods universally accepted.
Now i dont believe in evolution as you don't believe in god. Saying that there are numerous proof which supports it is a fallacy because there a as many facts not supporting it. We should only teach in a PUBLIC school what has been agreed in a universal consensus. Because this will show us that we all can demonstrate it and there is no other way We have studied it and concluded all that in the same way that this is the only answer to it
The fact that I can plant a seed and it becomes a flower, share a bit of knowledge and it becomes anther's, smile at someone and receive a smile in return, are to me continual spiritual exercises. that quotation is what you try to impose to our children which i cant accept. However you can teach it in a atheist school
Well i believe that this really depends of your culture or where you have grown up. I tend to see that older generation in asia Africa arab do not really accept it. As they want to keep their nationality and they where so nationalist that they cannot comprehend leaving their family. I mean by that , there is a fear of loss CCulturally.
However in Western nations they promote interracial marriage. The youth are tend towards this more nowerdays.
Yes, they thought they will pay up the borrowed money, many African states where plunges into this, until the done structural adjustments which was just taking control. However we can't just finish with that, as we have other factors like corruption, which plays a major role in debt countries,and there are more factors which influences this.
I believe that they can, as long the respect and freedom of choice to choose the religion or belief they want to.But again the respect must be there, otherwise this can lead into a clash. As we had different scenarios during the last decades where people don't respect other, and leaves anger,clashes,dispute which were quiet violent.
because your English is positively atrocious and I may have misunderstood
Well I want to point out that I learned the english language so far within 2 years, living in London, and last time I took English classes was 7 years ago(during 1 year). So I do understand that I dont speak as good than you, but therefore I accompplished what many people did not, and speaking 4 other languages!
Our earliest, truly mammalian ancestors actually were sort of like piglets.
This is the typical answer of an evolutionist, pretending that humans ancestors were mammals then they metamorphose to primates, and then they metaporphose to anthropoids and so on..
Mammals are diverse as the eastern kangoroo, the fox squirrel, the elephant shrew, the humpback, etc.
You didnt prove anything instead you just mix up everything like a cocktail telling me only that they use to have similarity, you are very creative!
we have evidence suggesting a direct evolutionary connection in our recent past to simians.
Give us a source, or explanation.
what I do know is that several time, the archeologes pretended having found transitional skull after it has been revelead to be a lie, that they used some some sort of "superglue".
Another issue is that evolutionist pretend having plausible answer like that Australopithecus transformed to homos, all of a sudden(guess how long this transformation took?!) Note that there was nothing in between, it happen suddenly! even when the difference is salient! It happen abrutly! Another point is between the Neandertal and Homo sapien, within only 200000 years! abrutly again! we have profound, dramatic change! therefore they need always to present a famous missing link!
I could go on...but I leave it for the moments being.
Natural selection is nowhere near being debunked,
The National Institute of Genetics in Japan and Scientists at Penn State, philosopher Jerry Fodor and cognitive scientist Massimo Piattelli-Palmarinihave and many more demonstrated that the natural selection is wrong!
Also darwin wrote the chapter difficult of theory and hoped that we could demonstrate it, indeed we did demonstrate it that it is completly wrong, but evolutionist try to find always some sort of transitional forme whenever we prove the misleading information. Also Francis Crick 1 of the 2 scientist who discoverd the ADN state himself that it is impossible that this happen by chance.Even if we study the cells we can see how complex the structure is and the probabilitythat this happen by chance its impossible, what about the proteine, what is the chance that this happen by chance?Or study the ARN you will admire it!and much more.
Of course we have 95% similarity in the DNA of the apes, but only 1% difference make a huge huge difference perhaps about 30 million error in the information.Also want to point out that we share 50% of the dna of a banana, perhaps we use to be banana?lol It is normal that a designer is using the same tool but he is creating different species with these tools.
Humanity could have destroyed itself by now five times over, because of nuclear weapons of mass destruction.
Well indeed like in 1983 Soviet nuclear false alarm, or in the Arab-Israeli war in 1973 a high nuclear alert called by kissinger.Or the Cuban missle crises..And now, the present prapaganda pretending that Iran develops nuclear weapon, such a brainwashing information..
There are many innumerable cases when when nuclear intervention has been abroted only moments before launch.
We separate ourselves into nations and other social groups because it's within our nature to act like lesser animals and compete with one another, territorially.
It is normal that we are devided in different social groups, and being challenged sometimes by a cultural chock, because, we life in our ethnocentrical group, therefore we must use Cultural relativism.
But to eliminate each other to the point of threatening our dominance on the planet?
Is this not happening? Arent we moving towards a totalitarian world, where is the so called "rule of the demos" in the US or europe. We live in a society where elites are having the upper hand, the same elits who are creating money out of thin air, the same elits who are working in the IMF and lend money to poor country andafter not being able to repay, they take their assert and ressoucre. The same elits who are brainwashing people with missinformation, the same elits who are just looking for their own interst! Is this not threatening the dominance of the planet?
The one who controle the past, controls the present and the one controling the present controls the future!
I suspect that one great challenge of our current state of evolution is culturally growing past the need for violence No wonder why, we are exposed to it since we are kids with all this useless entertainment.
But, destroy the world? It may be possible, but I am more optimistic then you.
I didnt say there is not any hope, I know there are millions of people who are trying to change this world in a better place, but what about the rest of it, they are in the world which the society is advertissing, looking upon stars, gosspi, mode, music, I mean by that, the society is trying to tell us what life is; to work 8h, to buy useless staff, to sleep, to go in holiday. This chain, which is telling us, this is the way we must live, this is what you must buy. Most of the people are like that, only a minority has woken up and try to help the rest of the world, western countries are exploiting so much the poorer countries, therefore I think the chances are very small.
You say humanity is the same and unchanging. Every generation born is more empathetic and social then the last. Every generation strives more for peace and less for war
I perhaps talked to fast, I ment that people are changing, but the elites are still ruling the world, We are advocting for peace, because our parents lived in the period of war, we learned from it. But why is there war?Same as why did the Reagan administration wanted to go in war? Some people try to take controle of the world and their resources, and these people will always existe.These are the same who are diving us into their society. Western country are promoting democracy, so the elits cant anymore act as like in the past, they must act like a shadow. Why do you think otherwise we have all these useless stuff, why they push our children to dress in a way where you can see all the form off their body.What is really what we need? Indeed the society is promoting something completly different, because big coporation are having the words.
Where do you see a president Obama saying I love war? No! There are new ways of promoting such things, all this Propaganda, of yes we can. They use the fear and pretend to protect us from the Evil. But they never apologiz off all the millions of inocent killed children or drone attacks.
What about Thanksgiving day, we promote all the beautifull stuff, but we dont speak about the land being stolen from the native indian, the genocide. The movies promoting indians as bad people, and the cowboy being the good one..
Yes we love peace, but in australia, we have the australia day.We dont hear that the people who settled in australia where criminals and they have been displaced as far as possible from europe which is Australia, and what are we doing for the aborigines.And that australia is a dumping waste for nuclear facilities. So we call that the LUCKY DAY, the AUSTRIALA DAY and we jump all around, and drink beer. Thats the kind of propaganda I talk about.
The same way that The Rotshield influecend the WW2 . I never heard about that when I was in school, I had to research to understand.
We would be okay with people being stoned to death. What is wrong with it, if that person comitted a crime, which is under the law of that country. You find it choking because of your ethnocentrical group, and your believes.
We are the dominate species upon this planet. So, like any other creature, we are changing, adapting, to survive better.
Indeed we do, we all passing trough different kinds of emotions, sarrow, laugh, happyness, and the rest.
Hence, each one of us we are same, we feel all the same, and go trough these emotions. We believe we are all different, that my life is mine, my tought is my. Thats what the society tells us. They say, you are different, you have to be individualistic, you have to get lot of money etc.
You can analyze what are you different to me, execpt of my physical outside difference but I mean analyze my inside deep of me, deep of you. We feel all the same.
So if we want to have a better world, we cant act as individual.We must all be modest, we must all care for each other, even if my culture is different to yours, even if on one country they stone to death if someone commits a crime of 1 degree, and other culture they just jail that person, we must still care for each other.
So when I say human being is still brutal..etc I mean that most of us we are just individualistic. Therefore we can be very dangerous
For every state of evolution we survive past
Did we use to be pigs in the past? Or monkeys? Surley this is the must naiv believe and the dumbest also. If you accept what charles darwin said decades ago, and most of his theories are getting refutet day by day.
We will never be Smart inoff to understand the hole universe, cant you see allready the mess in which human being is, always the same, he is individualist,arogant,brutal,destructiv
Well I would, say they are more brainwashed, with all the technology! In my time there was the first Nintendo! But know you have all this Ipad,new phones,big TV..Technology..
It is making them busy, to follow their idols of stars, or gangsters rappers, these non sense stuff! The way the wear clothes is choking as well, everything is tied, you can already see the form of her body just when she wears a Jean, I summer they like to lye naked around...drink beer. I believe that 1 of 2 kids are brainwashed. Fact is that they are exposed to it 24h! They might even dream of it! This is not the kids fault, but the fault of our society.
I think wtf, this bieber, dont care about us, they want their fame, and money, If you die tomorrow, they do not care, they just think about their image, and fame!
This is just to make people busy, entertain them, non sense, we dont need that kind of things.
while people are dying, and he sings about party party all night, very helpfull, at least if he would do a song about the sadness of the world, the problems, this would at least inform us in some way
How can any crocodile, salamander, get metamorphose, and evolve? even if these animal are so old. Is that not possible? only a butterfly can do it.
As we might have the same dna then porc, it does not mean that we use to be one, either as we look like gorillas or monkeys it doesn't mean we use to be,
how do you know you didn't evolve?
we dont Metamorphose by this i mean, or cell are not giving us new members, or wings, simply our cells cant do it.So you can wait 50000years or more inside the water but your cell wont change and give you Gills and respiratory system of a fish.
Its better to have an obama then Romney , both of them are terroriste, but obama is a less inhuman then romney
Romney is just a machine war
native American are not immigrants?
WHat about the native people who lived in the US before the Spain, African, Britain.
They exterminate the whole civilisation! These people where the real native! You just took the land by force, its a black history!
HOw is this racial profiling. I am giving a example of what could happen.
If that's the case that you give example like this based on propaganda, lot could happen, even indeed thats right.
But someone whos information is not only based n CCA propaganda would see something esle
A nuclear Iran is a very, very unpredictable Iran.
In what is it unpredictable? That Israel didn't sign the non proliferation treaty.
That Iran military spending is low compare to the other regent(saudi,bahrein..)
That Iran MILITARY DOCTRINE is Strictly defensive, to slow any kind of invasion
That Iran has limited capacities to project military operations beyond their borders
That The world has attacked Iraq For so called nuclear weapons and killed more than 1/2 million of CHILDREN(imagine there would be yours) after all they didn't find anything, but instead took control of the hole nation, including their resource.
The US cannot tolerate sovereignty that interferers with its key marketswillan cohen secretary defence in 1999 stated-US is committed to unilateral use of military power to defend their vital interest, such as uninhibited access to key markets,energy supplies,strategic resources
All the neighbours nation of Iran which have been invaded by the us, automatically destabilized the relation with Iran, while Iran tries to expand their relation.
The smart sanction imposed to Iran, is not more different then the one imposed to Irak(the sanction has clear effect on the civilian)
There is a LONG LONG list in which non brainwashed people can demonstrate that IRAN is not a threat, but if you research a bit, with a open minded, you would understand who is the terrorist
Guess when was the last time that Iran attacked another nation? Compare it with ISRAEL OR US
Therefore the threat that IRAN develops nuclear capability is not in view, But the terrorist state Israel and US these rogue states, can be clearly seen by the whole world as they do not regard them self as bound by the international laws
And of course these minor point that I told you, has been told by the CCA?
Your so reliable source of information. Who just tells you whatever they want that you know, and even lie to you sometimes
They are taking illegally land, its not about 2000 years ago history, we are talking about the 18 century boy. You speak like a zionist honestly
Non sense what you talk about honstley, Muslim are not angry because of the religion, they are because of the Zionist regime, its totally different, The zionist regime bombard gaza, It terrorises the Palestinian(which equals to be a terrorist!), kills children, kills people on the international waters, they deprive them from water!They are conducting ethnic cleansing! There is a long long list of all the international laws which Israel breaches! And then you tell that it is a religion matter...
Your thinking, is of one being brainwashed.You just repeat what the CCA tells you, but you dont conduct a research on the other side
I believe you are being brainwashed , by this I mean in your subconscious news tells you what ever they want that you know, all the rest they keep quiet about it. Specially the CCA corporation.UN summit? The news lied when they state that Iran would vanish israel out of the map! Do some research, some linguistic research and understand before you speak.
president ahmadinejadNEVER said he would wipe them out off the card. Many people are getting mislead because of that.
ahmadinejad said ”Imam ghoft een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad.”
The full quote translated directly to English:
“The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time”.
Word by word translation:
Imam (Khomeini) ghoft (said) een (this) rezhim-e (regime) ishghalgar-e (occupying) qods (Jerusalem) bayad (must) az safheh-ye ruzgar (from page of time) mahv shavad (vanish from).
With scientific knowledge comes a disbelief because the scientific support holds more weight and persuasion.
Since when are they disbelieving, if they need persuasion? It means rather it would be other causes, to intensify his belief, or doubt, but not disbelief.They choose too disbelief, if it doesn't make sense, or if it goes beyond the logical point, or scientific evidence.
To hold knowledge, self respect, and personal accountability above all else. To put ones needs and the needs of their closest associates above those of others.
But who is satan then?Is he not a divinity?
And because it's such a big number it's so radical that its impossible?
Yes it is, otherwise, you should just try to fly, or you should wait to metamorphose to a bird
This is Roger Penrose comment on these numbers
This now tells how precise the Creator’s aim must have been, namely to an accuracy of one part in 1010123.
This is an extraordinary figure.
One could not possibly even write the number down in full in the ordinary denary notation: it would be 1 followed by 10123 successive 0′s.
Even if we were to write a 0 on each separate proton and on each separate neutron in the entire universe – and we could throw in all the other particles for good measure – we should fall far short of writing down the figure needed.1
The monkeys and Shakespeare part I have no idea WTF you're talking abou
I was telling you that, if someone believes in your believe, that the world came by coincident , he should believe as well that a bunch of monkeys wrote down the work of Shakespeare alone! With the punctuations! Can you believe in that?
. I prefer that over some book and doctrine of rules written by uneducated bronze age primitives.
I just remind you many of these book have predicted some numerous extraordinary scientific evidence, which could only be seen by our modern technology.So therefore I refute your statement!
The bible is so wrong in countless ways.
So keep on reading, there is not only the bible. If you get fired tomorrow, you dont just stay at home, but you keep searching, because you know there is a work outside!
If their is a god, he left us to our own devices 2000 years ago
What is then the death,? What is time? Time has been created, but that god is beyond time. So after dead, we are beyond time..No wonder that Elvis couldn't come back and warn us about God lol
Buckle down on yourself and your problems and not everyone elses.
Well I try to be good and to live in a modest way, but if i see something wrong I try to explain it, thats been human. Because otherwise this will just increase difficulties in the world, and I wouldn't mind if someone tells me what I'm doing wrong, this will just help me to improve(of course in a polite manner)
. Thats why Americas down the shitter. Cuz we just have to help everybody else and stick our nose in other countless shit.
America is a rogue state, a state which do not regard themself bound by international norms, we have many historical evidence for that, till today its happening!
Basically the main reason why I'm an atheist is that all deities I have been presented have failed to meet their burden of proof. They're all absurd and have mountains of evidence against them.
Keep on looking, search and read, this will help you aswell to understand their non material culture. And I hope for you that you find the truth.
Exactly. I don't believe IN anything. No deity, god, ect. I follow the philosophy of satanism and accept science for the explaination for everything.
But I thought Atheist dont use backups of science?As yourself told it before Atheism does not equal science
What is the philosophy of Satanism in few sentence?
Uhhh....I accept evolution and the big bang as of right now. Yes that equals science but has no relation to my lack of belief in a deity.
So you Believe in Science?Im really confused..
And the way you say beautiful world insinuates that you're on of those people who thinks just because the world is so pretty and everythings so colorful and intricate that it must be divinely inspired. Well I hate to break it to you but that doesn't mean anything. It doesnt have to be anything. It just is because it is. Because it's one in a billion trillion chance of being so.
I believe you talk about the multivers theory of Hawkins..
Let me tell you that the probability that one universe (ours) among all these other universe to make human life possible in it(our world) the probability of that is 10*10123 among 1. This is as if you would say that a bunch of monkeys wrote down the work of William Shakespeare...(so complex structure as it is) This clearly states that it is impossible, that this has not happen by coincidence.
But I think you just believe what you like to hear, and you just take scientific evidence,and if you dont like that same scientific evidence you deny and say I AM ATHEIST so I might believe in the theory of evolution, or the scientific Big bang, but it depends if I like it..
so, I urge you to look at the world (at least in pertaining to humans) in a different perspective. War, disease, famine, drought, hunger, thirst, pain, sorrow, death. The world isn't as pretty as it seems.
Human on this earth was always brutal,corrupt, lying,aggressive,competitive,since then we have famine ,drought, hunger, thirst, pain, sorrow.
If the Human kind would change to a modest,honest,non competitive,caring,loving,etc we would be able to do a radical revolution, no hunger anymore,no drought,etc
That change starts among us, in our community,family, and then we can spread it out
And of course we will die, but it is the way you die, and achieved,you life, to help others, because all you do for yourself you loose it, except what you do for the creator, and his human kind
Indeed, we need to abolish this government in non violent way. They went in War even if most of american citizan were against it, many big corporation are getting tons of money if America goes in war.
Willian cohen in 1999 the secretary of defense US declared that the US is committed to Unilateral use of military power to defend vital interest, which some of them are ensuring in unrestrained access to key markets,energy supplies, and strategic resources
But I ask you again, why does a peace loving person such as yourself own an AK 47?
I'm really curious
LoL
As I told you that, if in my home nation, I would be attacked by Imperialistic Nation who drops Bombs,kills civilians, family members, I would grab my AK 47 and defend my right, as they are not at all ready to deal in a non violent Way, and that they are breaking International Laws
