Who is this brainwasher that you speak of? And whats with the sucking of the cock? You shouldn't put your hobbies on here dumbass. I am just tickled that obama believers like you want to believe that obama is not the worst... If he wasn't then WHO THE HELL WAS? other than carter. Explain to me how he is not, word for word.
Holy crap obama is putting us in more twice as much debt everyday than bush, he has made 0 accomplishments and plus he has us in more debt in 3 years than all the presidents combined what does that tell ya? Or maybe that our vets or old people mean nothing to him or how about BOWING to another leader? Is anybody not picking this up?
Republicans they do because they are smarter they are more patriotic and theyd rather let the people make the decisions not the govt. GO GOP! Rick Santorum 2012!! Sarah Palin 2012! Donald Trump 2012! Dems have 0 balls and use 0 facts in there arguments alot of the time.
This is a free country it is and thats not necessarily fascism its more socialism and im sorry your too brainwashed to see this.
If all the competition was destroyed then why didn't he move? There are options I agree big government is a terrible thing but I can imagine there are other options, why didn't your mother get a job also?
When you say a responible customer you mean?.. Credit card companys just don't "rape" bank accounts for no reason so that part is not adding up?
Again I go back to why didn't he leave the area or why did your mother not get a job?
If he can have a credit card then why can't he take a loan out? You socialist types usually would think that spending more money would help debt.
If he was smarter than me then why didn't he excell in any of the options listed above it's not completly impossible. And btw IM STILL IN HIGH SCHOOL and I can keep up with you..? Soo?
So if I worked at McDonalds (which I don't) they could physically keep me there? Bullshit.
Explain to me how IM the ignoramus or a hypocrite? Like id watch cnn,cnbc,msnbc,nbc they are better? again, bullshit.
When i get enslaved by corporatism? IM not the "person" who stayed with a freakin company for so many years and didn't even attempt to make a change? And IM going to get enslaved by it?..Bullshit.
But loans can be a temporary fix until you can excell in a personal business.
Yes im a hick not a redneck, two different things btw. Well this hick seems to be telling you off?
Ok if your GRANDFATHER started there in 1903 by did you neglect telling that in your main argument.
Wow im suprised that you can tell me that there were 0 jobs that would fulfill his salary in that area at all? Wow.
This country is capitalist it is i can promise you that we are just using socialist policies.
Did I once say I was better than you? Once? Everybody is equal other than fags. Congrats you are both my seniors but your the first ive met with 0 wisdom.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA im not going to sit here and tell you that corpratism doesn't suck because it does but corps do produce jobs and wheather most of us like it or not it puts food on the table.
If your father was not willing to follow other options then he should have just grew a set of nuts, manned up and delt with it the best he could. And you have no right to tell me what I can and can't say on here. And im not cheap and I don't appriciate that expectation therefore your telling me your better than me?
I can be civil but you have to admire the options America provides.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA, When the govt is big it has a big desire to spend did you not look at ours lately? OK explain to me how discussing extreme socialist policies in Iraq or China shows I don't know what socialism is. Didn't you understand my point for posting that about our four fathers? We werent discussing THAT congrats but I was trying to show an UNDEREDUCATED RETARD like you that if our four fathers came to get away from socialism then WHY WOULD IT WORK FOR AMERICA? Why would be turn to socialist policies if the founding of our country was met to eliminate the socialist way of life? Since you argued with 0 facts in your last arguement I would just stop now if I were you, you know you lost a long time ago. Cause I can argue just as long as you presenting more facts than you because I am correct and YOU are not. "It's like arguing the finer points of shakespeare with someone who doesn't know how to read..." You just proved my point with that statement. Im not saying that canada or the U.K aren't socialist im saying they don't have EXTREME SOCIALIST POLICIES. Until you can put a true fact based arguement I would just stop. Capitalism is the way to go for a free country like America.
This is a free country asshole nothing absolutely nothing held your father back from quitting his job,why didn't he start his own business? huh tell me that? The corporation just strongly suggested that he stay with the company. "He didn't quit his job because he couldn't." Bullshit if he was so experienced why didn't he start a business himself? It's a pure example of being a dumbass, unless it was the military keeping him thats different but no business's can force their worker's to stay simple as that. Im not here to insult you or your father but it's kinda showing how the both of you are dumbasses there are other options but im sure he was so stuck in his own train of thought that he didn't know there was. Did he ever think other than staying there all his life why didn't he launch his own business why he was still working there , and once his small business got strong enough to pay the salary he desires then he CAN quit his job. Now I know your going to give me another bullshit arguement but you and your father must remember this is AMERICA if he didn't like big corporations why did he start there in the first place? Couldn't he ask for a promotion or a raise? Im going to respectfully ask you to tell me why capitalism sucks? This is beside our previous arguement. Im not going to tell you to go "fuck yourself" but i am asking you to admire other options now your right he couldn't leave the corporation but if it was so bad he could admire other options. Im tired of arguing with people who really don't know what they are talking about (im not targeting you on that). And I appriciate the fact that you have the balls to tell me how it is but "some shit you wrote" well it's not shit it's facts and maybe it's not related to this arguement it explains how capitalism works instead of redistributing what I already said you can just scroll up and read it then we can take off from there. I wrote my arguement you just need to look at it. Now im not so stupid because i got my "lazy arrogant coward" ass and wrote something because i got on this website to write 2 sentences for everything uhh no. We can argue like children and call each other names or we can argue with each other like adults and argue with facts? Its your choice we can contine arguing like children. Im willing to be civil and agree to disagree. When did I say I believe that "our system of corporatism allows for freedom.." When did I type that? Now this is "some writing" read it.
So if we had a small govt we would not be in 14 trilion dollar debt..correct! Thats why i said that "Big govt FALLS UNDER SOCIALISM" No lets not go to canada or the U.k lets go somewhere that has extreme socialist policies like IRAQ OR CHINA and tell me this yes or no are there people happy with there govt are they really? Why do people come to America for freedom? BECAUSE CAPITALISM MADE THAT POSSIBLE! Our four fathers were NOT SCOCIALIST THEY WERE CAPTIALISTS LEAVING THE SOCIALIST WAY OF LIFE IN EUROPE,What part of THAT didn't you understand? I never said you judge a govt by its size i said socialism 10 to 1 has everything to do with big govt, apparently your not reading everything im typing? "Those are not socialist functions" Well they are when the govt is dong it all. Why didn't the state of michigan give the taxpayer bailout with a vote of the people wheather they are aloud to do so? THAT IS A PURE EXAMPLE OF SOCIALISM. When did i say budget management? I said a 14 trillion dollar debt how is that managing the budget? EXPLAIN that for me since im the undereduated one who uses little facts for there argument and uses socialism like its freedom? O wait thats you! Big government is just a catchphrase? Our govt was designed to control the nations spending (which they have failed to do), protect the people by deployng the military when needed, and to protect the values and the constitution of the constitution itself. Where does it say that the govt can regulate you and tax you to the point where you can't run your business or truly be free? 99 times out of 100 big govt equals socialism. DUDE you don't know what your talking about that is the truly amusing thing, you really believe what your saying is correct when the fact of the matter is that it is very incorrect.
Actually dumbass that shows you how stupid you and your grandfather were, who forced him to work there? and why didn't he quit his job and get a different one where he could retire? Are you retarded? Look at my arguement with (gcomeau) above your comment and read the whole damn thing that should save me some time with you.
Ok china has a big govt why are there people so happy with it? and why do people come to America for a new way of life? China forces workers almost like slaves for pennies on the dollar, there govt has all the money the chinese people really have nothing and your telling me big govt "is just something people slap on bumber stickers." really? there is no reasoning behind it? Or lets go to Iraq saddam huessin had millions of dollars and mansions built of gold while his people and military had nothing and "Big Govt" means nothing? "You have tell by the functions it performs and how it performs them." You want to talk about functions? look at our govt spend spend spend, telling you what your kids are going to eat in school or giving taxpayer money bailouts to big corporations thats our economy and its 14 trillion dollar debt that has nothing to do with big govt? thats a function isn't it? Well i just told you the some of the functions our government is "performing" and it is socialism and it IS NOT working. Until you can get a little bit more educated you shouldn't argue about things that you are very undereducated about. Your wrong. Socialism is very stupid.
Does a 14 trillion dollar debt or unemployment rates climbing or inability to produce a bill about the debt ceiling or maybe lying or puting us in more debt in 3 years than in bush's 8 years does that help this side of the arguement? For real people carter and obama = unamerican,stupid,worst presidents EVER.
Ok is our govt running America more socialist like or capitalist like right now? Obama is socialist he wants big govt so technically our govt is socialist and 14 trillion dollar debt isn't helping the socialist arguement because obama has us in more debt than all the presidents combined yes that is a fact look it up. "America isn't trying it genius." Really? were not? big govt wanting to fund everything and tell you what your kids will eat at school and possibly taxing you for every mile you drive thats not trying it? Im sorry your undereducated but try to keep up k?
Boy your smart i'll have you know that the john dodge worked at ford and he didnt like the way henry was running it cause henry wanted low prices and reliable cars which he already had, John wanted more money and different designs so technically that doesn't make much sense? And yes I can dispute one make and I will thank you very much. Chevy is NOT the heartbeat of America Louis Chevrolet came over here from switzerland because he had seen his first automobile so ford is the most reliable and the more fun, nothing beats the ford mustang in popularity the only chevy that comes close is corvette.
Boy if you know so much about it then why isn't it working for America? Can you tell me that? Socialism falls under big govt which I can gaurantee you hasn't been working. You are pretty much right most of Europe is socialist land, BUT that is also why America is called "Land of the free" and they are not. Did you know that The poor in America have more than the working class in europe? We were not founded with socialist's thats why our ancestors left Europe dumbass! to get away from the socialist way of life! Which also falls under your statement "Most of Europe is what we refer to as "Social Democracies"...a.k.a. socialist states." So your proving my point with that statement and that's also why I have said there is no such place that has socialism that works! So before you call me a moron you should get yourself alot more educated on what "we're discussing". Again what's with the socialist's stupid answers?! seriously!
OK tell me this, does is make sense for somebody to protest a funeral when that soldier fought for them to stand on American soil and be safe? NO if you said yes to this arguement then your retarded for real, I dont care what the amendments say about something like this, protesting at a regular funeral is one thing but to protest at someones funeral who gave you freedom, independence, justice and liberty is sick in the head, I would like to see some of these pussy fags go on the frontline and fight for this country and protest at their funerals and see what their families would say! Our SOLDIERS give us freedom not the dumbass president or the congress or the senate, people its common sense think about it!!!!!!!!!
CUT SPENDING, CAP DEBT, BALANCE THE BUDGET, why is that not easy to understand, if you have a credit card and your near maxing it out do you continue spending majorly with it? NOOO! CAP the freakin debt stop spending money we DON'T have! The govt shouldn't fund nearly anything but the military! Let the states fund everything! BALANCE THE BUDGET! balance everything so your not spending more money on something that is less important! JEEZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What part of a free country don't you understand? Big govt is a NO NO. Capitalism is what can save our country. Socialism=Communism. Economically hazardous are you for real? Its not called Economically hazardous is called letting the people create jobs and do what they need to do without the govt taxing a regulating them to death. If you don't believe in capitalism then America is just not your country! Go to a land where socialism works, the only reason a majority of dems dont go to a place like that is because it DOESN'T WORK. whats with socialist's stupid answers seriously!?
