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'First of all God was never a man before He became God.'

Then my question isn't directed at you. The question is meant for people who do believe God was a man. You didn't answer the question, only questioned the premise of it. The whole point of the question was to make those who do believe God was a man to second guess their beliefs. As though this silly question reflects my beliefs... lol. Are you illiterate or that blinded by desperation to get your message out? For the record I do believe in God, and am offended that you assumed otherwise.

Nope. You're a pathetic lying pseudo Christian.

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If Srom wasn't so pathetic.. what you are doing now might seem noble. I've been on this site longer than most of you, and I dont think I've seen anything as pathetic as Srom lying about his account. And no, I can't prove that it's his account, and I am admittedly a twat. But Mors is probably Srom under a different guise. No explanation is required, it's pretty plain.

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You would break your Chrisitian code of ethics, thou shall not swear, to cover up a lie. That is awfully pathetic.

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LOL I just looked into it and I guess everyone else suspects that too. Dont be so pathetic Srom.

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This is obviously an alternate account. Probably Sroms. lol

Green grapes are too bitter / sour, purple grapes have a smooth, complex fruity flavor.

It can come from both sources. For example:

I know that after an odd number will come an even number. I have not counted every number, though I understand the way numbers progress, and can deduce (by reason) that this is so. Or I can say, from experience, that you and I are typing in the English language. Though, none of these pieces of knowledge are purely rational or empirical.

Have you had shits talk back to you? What did they say? What did you learn?

Do you have a guess as to what the size was?

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All I did was put a yard stick beside it (the shit was standing vertically and was actually sticking out of the water, it was easy to measure). But whenever I tried to flush it, it would just spin in place. I eventually had to grab a pot of boiling water and just melt that shit down.

Oh, and my mom is dead. Nice to meet you.

'Most essentially, a "thing" exists and can be described.'

That makes things easy.

All things exist and can be described

All that exists and can be described is real

Everything is real

Wow, debating can be easy and fun! Some people just never think to ask...... I suppose thats the biggest thing we can draw from this debate, that clearing up word defintions can really help with avoiding confusion, and that there really is a false dichotomy between imagination and reality.

Now we just need clean up all that confusion in the "God or No God" debates.

It's these sort of debates that just plunge into a misunderstanding stemming from linguistic problems and differences. How can I know that my definition of a thing is exactly the same as your definition? What is the essence of a thing? Must it hold molecules together? Must it be percieved? Lets define your terms with terms that can be universally understood and accepted before we continue.

When I have steak in the fridge I prefer to eat at home. However,if I have no food in the fridge I prefer to eat out. This questions answer is conditional on the contents of my fridge in that moment.

Shaq Fu is the shit. I love that game.

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What is the God of the Bible? Or rather, what do you think it is?

Initially, I think your argument is a good one. Give me some time to research / think about it, and I'll respond in support or denial of the same. This is a big issue, so it will take some time.

Morality isnt a quantity, it's a quality. Morals are rules for conduct, and everyone is cognizant of setting rules up for their day to day activities.

Question: By what science shall we measure the quantity of morals in a human being?

Both camps are moral. However one camp may seem preferable to some than the other camp from a moral standpoint. That doesnt mean that that camp is more moral in an objective sense, just that it is desired by some over other choices.

However, I dont think Atheism has set morals attached to the philosophy thereof. It's more of a reaction to the idea of monotheism, at least historically. So debating this question would be extremely difficult, I'll stop there.

Sure, but it remains an argument nevertheless.

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I don't think this is a valid argument, however I do agree that it is worded in a deceptive way. What I am trying to do is help people realize the flaw that I see.

Your second paragraph is addressed in my previous argument, I need not repeat myself over and over in this context.

I acknowledge that it is indeed absurd to infer the actual existence of most anything from the mere conception of it. However, what holds for most things doesnt hold for the singular case of that, than which no greater can be conceived. I can't prove the existence of the perfect t-shirt or Thor from the concepts that designate them. NGC is unique, pointing us out beyond any finite thing. If the argument works it works only in this case due to the peculiar phrasing.

Note: I am an Atheist de jure, and I do not accept this argument as being logically valid.

Ever heard of a syllogism? Also known as a deductive argument.

"Surely, your God can only exist in your understanding."

Not if that God = Nothing can be Greater Conceived. For a God existing in reality would be greater than a God existing in undertanding. His essence, which Anslem conceived, implies his existence in reality.

We should get rid of the existence of minorities.. the former will follow suit.


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