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Let's make one thing perfectly clear. You are no moral equivalent to me and I'm no moral equivalent to you.

You are indoctrinated because, your mental capacity is limited to few words (for example Racism, Sexism, or Homophobia) all programmed to a script. You have no original thought. You were not taught to think critically but rather react. Your thought processes follow conventional wisdom and fit into a designed mold or cast. You are socially engineered and designed.

The so called educators ripped you off. Whatever anger you have should be directed at them for programming your mind to run a script as opposed thinking for yourself and being an individual.

And I'll maintain my position: Women have no core. No honor. They follow. They are fickle. They go where it feels good and if don't feel good they find feeling good elsewhere.

A woman achieved (you fill in the blank) because a man made it possible.

If it weren't for men, women wouldn't be voting. Who controlled political system before women's suffrage? Men controlled it.

You are not educated. You are indoctrinated.

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You are predictable. Your response is a cookie cutter template based on years of indoctrination. You are programmed to give predictable knee jerk reactions without any thought or life observation never challenging those who have given the narratives you spew forth.

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I know. I hear you. I always hear the mantras and indoctrination, years of so called education from the public schools and universities. You don't understand because you are programmed to think only one way, the way they taught you. I understand your reaction and why.

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No. Women will follow men to where ever men lead them and like it.

Women have no core. They orbit around a man with a core. Substance has no meaning. Its all about how a man can make her feel.

So if you look at all the diversity of where women are today in their lives (forget about the substance) itswhere men have led them to be. They are they are because it feels good to be wherever there is or whatever there means.

There is no loyalty. There is no honor. There is no core. Its a state of mind and how they feel regardless of what they are doing or where they are. Its all changeable and may change depending upon if there is a man willing to lead them into a different direction or just more of the same.

thejax(68) Clarified
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There's a difference between enforcing morality and big government. Enforcing "good" morality really shouldn't require big government based on the fundamental reason, that big government is evil and immoral.

One way or the other morality is going to be enforced, but who will enforce it? Will it be people who believe in smaller and limited government or will it be people who believe government is God as opposed to smaller government enforcing biblical principals of morality: Don't kill your fellow human being. Don't steal from your fellow human being. Don't lie to your fellow human being. Don't copulate with your fellow human being's spouse and so on.

Summed up as an abstraction: Don't initiate the use of force against your fellow human being. In other words you may not assume the moral authority and initiate the use of force.

So let's look at the issues you present:

Abortion. This is murder. If doctor kills a human being while the human's state of existence is in development, then the doctor has initiated the use of force. That's immoral!

Smoking Dope. No reason for the law to stop you from self destruction. The problem comes in when one's self destruction somehow spills over into other people's lives who are minding their own business. For example one drives a car under the influence of drug use, collides into an oncoming car of a family of five and kills them all. You personally may have common sense and use your drugs responsibly where your actions will not impact other people, but lets face it, there may be more people who will conduct themselves as if they were not under the influence while being under the influence of drug use and that may have an impact on people who are minding their own business. Nonetheless if we treat each situation like the car wreck scenario, we exclude the drug use and just focus on a driver as a murderer as opposed to a drug user under the influence, it may change the behavior of those choose to use drugs and use them responsibly.

Driving around with money... not sure of the context. I'll skip it.

Large military. A large military doesn't equate to government regulating my life as a citizen hindering my individual rights and freedom. Look at Europe. They have small armies and limited means of self defense, yet have the biggest and most intrusive regulating governments against their own citizens. The United States, despite the damage the liberals have done, is still one the most free of all countries in the world despite its defense budget.

Border Control and Immigration: Once again, the government protecting the nations borders doesn't equate to government regulating my life as a citizen hindering my individual rights and freedom.

Selling drugs: I have no argument here. This is a great analogy. Imagine drug dealers getting on TV and present their products and listing all the side effects no different than big Pharma.

Terminology: Right winger

There really is no such thing as right winger. You either support the morality of the US Constitution or you oppose the morality of the US Constitution. The US Constitution is the rule of law defining the moral, cultural and philosophical attitude of the country.

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Given of what we know today, yes. In addition human beings are divided into 3 distinct mitochondria. The human mitochondria also has no biological link or relation to any form life on earth.

Off topic: Wolves also don't share any link with any other life forms on earth as well, although they are classified as canines, but that has nothing to do with related biology.

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Yes. Great idea. No more imperfect men running around claiming to be God's ambassadors. Instead replace religion with salvation. We approach the situation understanding that we are all sinners and we'll never be perfect, but that God gave us Jesus Christ who atoned for sin allowing us to be in fellowship with God. We replace membership (religion) with transformation of you, the individual.

So yes. Let de-emphasize the relationships between men, their organizations, their rules, their rituals and let each individual without any organization or church, go before God and either humbly kneel before God recognizing Jesus as the atonement for sin or stick your fist out to God face and extend your middle finger.

This is this choice as opposed to men in big buildings, creating cash cow mega churches, wearing costumes, drinking wine and molesting children and let's throw in sanitizing the earth holy crusades and jihad if you don't believe like me while your at it.

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Capitalism hasn't committed suicide. The government is busy destroying Capitalism, by creating dependencies in many aspects of life.

The government has convinced enough people to give up being personally responsible, self-sufficient and depend upon it.

In which case, the government has no choice but to initiate the use of force against free people practicing Capitalism.

Free people give up their right to be self-sufficient they stop practicing Capitalism.

thejax(68) Clarified
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You haven't disputed me. You haven't provided a rebuttal.

The bottom line is...

No single human being reserves the right an enforces their code of morality by initiating the use of force against another single human being. Why? because no single human is God.

Each human being is born into the world.

Each mother and father is obligated to teach their child skills to becoming self sufficient, disciplined against being lazy and idle.

Upon maturity which should be around the teen years a human being should be at the point of being self-sufficient and go on their own ensuing that each day of their life they provide self. All this can be so long as the government doesn't deny free people an opportunity to live their lives free from government playing the role of God enforcing its brand of morality.

Government assumes the role of God (its brand of morality) by initiating the use of force, forcing those who are self-sufficient to sacrifice for those who choose to be lazy and idle and take care of them.

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Why would any single individual forfeit their right and neglect self preservation against those who would initiate the use of force against them?

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No. A capitalist society upholds the individual being an end unto one self as opposed to being an end unto the state, the king, the mob, the tribe, the gang, the common good and etc… ad nauseum.

The morality which urges each person to help one another is between the individual and God as opposed to the government forcing morality down each individual’s throat.

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Ming. The government is incompetent. That is why healthcare is in the mess its in today. The private sector is being denied the opportunity making sure the poor are being cared for.

North Korea can’t even feed its own people.

Look at Venezuela.

Centralized government power fails every time.

Individual people must take responsibility for their own well-being. Final moral authority must be between the individual and God, not the government initiating the use of force against the population.

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Don't forget all the women having babies without marriage, that tax payers have fund from day one to age 18.

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Socialism is socialism no matter what façade you wrap around it. The end result is always the same... Poverty, Misery, War, and Mass Murder if it goes long enough.

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What do Trump's tax cuts have to do with the rising homeless and human feces covering the streets of San Francisco.

What does Mexico, Venezuela and San Francisco have in common? Their is hardly any middle class. Extreme rich and extreme poor. Why? Because the federal government makes promises of free give-a-ways creating more poverty and taxes and regulates the middle class into an oblivion.

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Wrong question is being asked. The Yes side represents the lesser of two evils, so that’s where I will put my opinion.

Reality is a composition of all that there is, as opposed to is there more, to imply reality is lacking.

The five human senses perceive a subset of reality. Technology has enhanced this perception. However there are other beings in the universe which technology and the five human senses may not perceive unless you the individual tap into the power of God or Satan.

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There really shouldn’t be two sides: Trump Broke it Permanently or Trump Can Do No Wrong.

But I have to pick the least of the two lies so it will be “Trump Can Do No Wrong.”

Let’s get it right. A big overbearing federal government continues to break the economy. The federal government just won’t leave the private sector alone. It has to continually alters people’s lives, financial decisions, the way people use their money the way business and corporations make policies for themselves.

The federal government behaves as if it were a god. It enforces its morality on people who don’t ask for it. People are living in economic conditions they didn’t ask for. People want to live in economic conditions which they themselves create as opposed the conditions the federal government creates.

Have you ever heard of the separation of church and state? Of course, you have!

Let’s do a new implementation! The separation of the private sector economics and the state.

Live and let live.

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Its okay. The one true religion is you. You are your own god. You live and walk on the reality you created. You set yourself up as one true moral authority. Not necessarily a moral authority for all to follow, although many may share commonalities with your moral authority, but rather it’s a moral authority for you alone.

You judge yourself. You weigh what is right and wrong. You have faith in yourself. You alone determine your destiny absent of mythical fairy-tale god that created a world in 7 days.

There just no way that you should answer to a higher power because you are your own higher power. It’s important that you believe this.

There’s nothing I can say that will progress your perception and understanding of the world beyond your flesh’s five senses.

It’s okay, I get it.

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Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!

In the creation process, the earth was a giant, inhabitable ball of lava.

God finished his creation! The earth became a perfect world!

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God created the heavens and the earth. God said this is good thing.

God created the Garden of Eden. God said this is good thing.

God created man and woman. God said this is good thing.

I did all this so that I can have fellowship with you, the human being I created.

Then God said, Humankind has dominion over the earth. Its theirs. Be a great steward. Take care of it.

Summary: God created a perfect world without flaws.

No mayhem.

No destruction.

No disasters.

More importantly, no physical fleshly death.

God is perfect. What God creates is perfect.

All the laws in the universe held hands and sang kum by ya.

What happened next?

Well, Satan conned Eve. Eve disobey God. Adam shared in Eve’s disobedience and they both disobeyed God.

Consequences:

Man, no longer has dominion over the earth. His disobedience transfers his authority over the earth to Satan. Worse yet, God places a curse on mankind for his disobedience and a curse on the serpent for his deception. Even worse! Mankind has to work for a living. Oh my God! Capitalism comes in to existence. Just think. If Adam and Eve didn’t disobey, utopian socialism would actually work because God would be the central moral authority taking care of mankind. But I digress. That’s another topic for another time.

Result: Chaos!

Physical death is now a reality.

The earth groans! The earth is no longer a perfect environment. Satan has dominion over the earth. The earth is now under his principality. It belongs to him and Satan defiles the earth.

Ahhhh… Not too worry. God has a plan.

He’ll impregnate Mary. She’ll bore a son, name him Jesus. Jesus will die for mankind. Jesus’s death will be a sacrifice and bring mankind back into the fellowship with God. A fellowship which would fulfil the original reason why God created mankind in the first place a few thousand years ago.

God: Sheez! Just want to be friends. Is that too much ask?

The earth however, we’ll is still in Satan’s domain. None the less humanity is still charged in keeping the earth in good order. It’s going to be a lot of hard work, especially since the earth is no longer in a perfect state.

Summary:

The earth is no longer in a perfect state.

The earth is under Satan’s domain.

God’s curse on man for man’s disobedience doesn’t help either. Thorns and thistles abound in plant life. The ground has to be worked. Pestilence kills crops. The animals don’t like us anymore. Its take domestication in order to gain their trust.

Geeez! Why didn’t Adam and Eve just be obedient? It would have made life so much easier.

The future!

A new heaven.

A new earth!

Earth 2.0

An earth without Satan corrupting it. An earth that is no longer in Satan’s domain. Imagine that! No earthquakes. No floods. No tsunamis. No volcanoes. No meteor impacts. No extra heinous bleep!

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Guns are tools that help other people kill people. True.

You are arguing that people shouldn’t have guns because in fact guns are tools that help people kill each other.

I’m saying, you don’t have the moral authority to enforce (via law, king’s decree, or divine right of rule) your point of view on citizens and thus feel justified to disarm the public.

Let’s review this:

Guns are tools that help people kill people.

Criminals may use a gun and kill people to gain power, financial gain and/or for romantic reasons.

I may use a gun and kill a criminal (or a person) who breaks into my home, desiring financial gain by stealing my private property.

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Yes, God created the laws of existence, the Sciences.

But fellowship with God is not religion. Religion is not fellowship with God.

Man created religion and man subdues his fellow man. Religion is the means of subjugation.

God says Love one another. Don’t kill each other.

If I don’t love my fellow human being or I sin, then I’m breaking fellowship with God. My sin has nothing to do with religion. Religion can’t atone for my sin. My relationship is not with a religion.

My sin if present and is not atoned for through Jesus’ sacrifice, will separate me from God’s fellowship. Religion plays no role in the relationship between God and myself. I the human being must make a choice. Religion has nothing to do with my choice. The choice I must make is to be obedient to God or be disobedient to God. Religion has nothing to do with my relationship with God, the act of whether I am obedient or disobedient to God.

Religion is created, it’s not discovered.

Satan has copy or a counterfeit which substitutes your individual relationship or fellowship with God. That counterfeit is religion. Religion substitutes your personal spiritual responsibility to have fellowship with God.

God created Adam and Eve. Why? For fellowship. God didn't create religion. Satan appeased man’s flesh, and religion came into existence via man's desire to be disobedient to God.

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Ah I see where you are coming from now!

I agree with you up to a certain point.

Where we part on the issue is the question:

Does that make them safe to distribute to people?

The problem with this question is that any one person in society may not have a monopoly on determining morality for another person. By what moral authority does one person have to determine if its safe me to own a gun.

Then this leads into the next issue, moral superiority. The individual can now be sacrificed for the greater good. The greater good in this case is, its not safe to own a gun because, I say so. I'm superior. I know better than you. If you can't comply, I'll violate your individual rights by confiscating your private property, imprisoning you against your freewill or I my myself, may even kill you with a firearm. The firearm I oppose you from owning.

When it comes to crime, we need to focus on individual responsibility regardless if guns were or were not used to commit the crime.

A person should never be limited from purchasing a firearm because someone thinks its not safe. The law abiding citizens who own firearms out number the criminals by far thus we have a safety (in abstract terms) that would not exist if criminals had a monopoly on firearm ownership.

You may not agree with this, but I hope what I said makes sense.

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Yes, a liberal may have an American flag flying over their house.

What you have to understand is that American flag flying over their house represents a freedom, from their worldview as opposed to the context in which the US Constitution lays out.

The US Constitution’s basic philosophical tenet is smaller and limited federal government, empowering the individual citizen.

The liberal’s basic philosophical tenet is government is the solution for mankind’s sins. Government is the means, administering social justice. This requires a strong centralized government authority which opposes the US Constitution.

A liberal’s freedom is your tyranny.

Your freedom is a liberal’s tyranny.

A liberal needs you and survives getting by.

You don’t need a liberal and survive working your butt off.

The American flag no longer has standard institutional meaning anymore. It means something different to many people due the group identity politics as opposed to unifying us all as Americans.


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