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Libertarians want government to protect businesses, after all.

And the country's security, free speech, gun rights, property rights, and States' rights.

I'm not really sure why people think that a group of people that wants to limit the Federal government to the powers given to it in Article 1 Section 8 is the same thing as anarchy.

1 point

Democratic government tend to give the greatest political influence to the majority.

Hence why us Libertarians are for democratically elected officals and not unelected bureaucrats... which something Democrats support.

A capitalist economy gives the greatest individual economic influence to the wealthy.

No, it gives the greatest economic influence to the best and brightest entrepreneurs. The best are determined by whether the free market that is driven by the consumer wants the product being offered and as a result entrepreneurs become wealthy while the costumer gets what they want.

The wealthy tends to be a small group.

Depends on what you consider to be "wealthy". But just because there is one group with a lot of wealth does not mean that the middle class is not well off.

The majority tends to be poorer.

Actually, capitalism has allowed for mass production of goods and wealth. People are better off now because of it.

Political influence is economic influence.

Which is why we need to keep government from controlling too much of the economy.

The invisible hand is the net effect of all individuals economic influence minus the economic influence done though political influence.

Huh? The invisible hand is how companies survive or don't based on how vauled they are to the people who they do business with. If the product or service is in high demand the company will survive, but if the product or service is not in demand then the company will be faded out.

All is well with the invisible hand as long as every body has roughly equal economic influence, however once a group begins to gain more then the others this group will begin to exploit the others for their benefit, the smaller this group(of a particular economic influence) the less representative it is of society.

If by "exploit" you mean expand their services and invest more in their business as well as others then yes... they "exploit" other. As for the "less" representation bit, a person recieves a vote in a Libertarian society regardless of their economic status.

The only way for the more populous and more representative group(s) to gain enough economic influence to counter their exploitation is though political influence. This Economic influence will manifest itself as Regulations, minimum wage laws and other such things.

It's hard to consider it "exploitation" when both parties are better off. Sure, some regulations are needed, Libertarians tend to follow the Austrian School of Economics which is against fraud and even Adam Smith admitted that some services(road making) are better off left to the government. However, too much regulation will lead to companies leaving the country and businesses suffering. As for minimum wage, all that does is causes high unemployment and ships jobs over seas.

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1. In order to have a religion one must believe in something.

2. In order to believe in something one must exist.

3. God does not exist, therefore God cannot have a religion.

1 point

You mean to tell me that punishing success in order to reward failure somehow fails?

1 point

Libertarianism is not an economic policy; it's a politcal philosophy that is a strong advocate of capitalism... which has allowed for some of the greatest advancements for humanity.

1 point

Giving away money away money is legal. Fucking is legal. Why is giving away money in order to be fucked illegal?

2 points

I would order a bull penis, pig eyes, deer leg, and bat intestines.

I don't plan on eating any of those, but it would make the day of the person going out to get those items rather shitty.

1 point

I'm a registered Libertarian and proud of it. Republicans and Democrats both work for special interest groups and care more about their party then they do about the people who they work for. Fuck 'em both.

1 point

But if we have gun control then how are we suppose to overthrow our government when they fuck up?

4 points

Really, no form of government works... some just fail more than others.

1 point

Nah, he's just there to piss the "progressives" off.

His entire show is focused on revisionists history, which is something liberals love but he is pretty much the anti-liberal revisionist.

2 points

Take really stupid quotes from their messiahs, say it was said by Palin, wait until they are done making a few snobby comments, and then watch their facial expression change as you tell them who actually made the statement.

Or you could just laugh at them. Nothing pisses off a liberal more then when you cannot take their "superior" ideas seriously. This will prompt them to engage in their most common way of arguing(name calling) and will give you even more enjoyment.

3 points

They have an interesting scoring system, but I do not see how Obama scores so high with it.

The presidents were given rankings for six personal attributes (background, imagination, integrity, intelligence, luck and willingness to take risks)

Background? How the fuck does that make a good president?

Imagination? That's not necessarily a positive trait.

Integrity? After campaigning as anti-Washington establishment he has used bribery to get his guys in position to win elections.

Intelligence? What are we defining as intelligent? Sure, the guy can give a nice speech that pseudo-intellectuals love but other than that he has not done much to prove that he is a smart guy.

Luck? That's not even in his control, but I'm sure he got the second lowest score aside from Lincoln.

five forms of ability (compromising, executive, leadership, communication and overall),

Compromising? No... not all his fault though.

Executive? Not quite sure what they are looking for in this one.

Leadership? Rallied the Democrats for his healthcare but his response to the oil spill has not received good ratings.

Communication? If that is a euphemism for propaganda then he has done a great job, if it is not then he has done a terrible job.

eight areas of accomplishment (economic, other domestic affairs, working with Congress, party leadership, Supreme Court appointments, executive branch appointments, avoiding mistakes and foreign policy)

Economic? According to the future forecasts he fails.

Other domestic affairs? Patriot Act is still around, terrible job with immigration, people hated his healthcare bill, Bp, Wall Street is now back to making billions while everyone else suffers.

Party leadership? Sure, I'll give him this one.

Executive Branch Appointments? Holder, Chu, Salazar, Geithner, Janet Napolitano, Lahood, and Duncan have all been failures.

Supreme Court appointments? The "wise" Latina ended up being an ideologue cunt.

foreign policy? Afghanistan is taking a turn for the worse, relations with Mexico are not too good, he was not able to get his point across at G-20, but leaving Iraq makes up for these.

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Or you just end up with a bunch of the lower class becoming poorer because they have to spend more money on their "sins" then on essential goods while the government ends up wasting the collected wealth that could be spend in thousands of better ways.

1 point

88% of blacks voted for Kerry, 98% voted for Obama. That's not a big jump seeing as Obama got a higher percentage of votes from all ethnic groups.

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But it is the judges that decide the punishment based on laws written by legislators, the jurors simply decide whether the person is guilty or not.

But even in cases where the jury knows that the convict will get the death penalty the opinions of average people should not decide who lives and who dies.

5 points

The government should not have the power to kill its own citizens.

2 points

Congratulations, in your self-righteous attempt to fight "the man" you are helping to put American workers out of job while at the same time doing nothing to hurt "the man".

1 point

More like "undocumented immigrants", but they the euphemisms just keep on coming.

3 points

The government can(and does) censor the media. The media cannot censor the government. Government wins.

0 points

Depends, seeing as the government gives a "service" in return it's not theft. People receive services from firefighters, cops, ERs, parks, and roads in return for paying taxes.

So it's more like making people buy some shit they may or may not want.

1 point

China, South Africa, and Russia have strict laws regarding weapons and they are not peaceful.

1 point

Click on their points and when you see that they down voted an argument click on the debate and as long as all the show replies have been clicked it will show you what argument they downvoted.

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Since for the time being this is still America a person accused of a crime is deserving of due process before they are punished. Give them a speedy trial and tell the teachers' union to go fuck themselves seeing as they ruin everything.


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