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Yeah, they HATED each other Nahh, they LOVED each other
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27,000,000 - That's the number of Socialist Russians that the Nazi's killed in WW II

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties_of_the_Soviet_Union

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Yeah, they HATED each other

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Nahh, they LOVED each other

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Yes, the Nazis were political animals who sought to completely exterminate Communism from Europe. They didn't care as much about whether a person worshipped the Christian God, the Jewish God, the Muslim God, or no God at all. Anti-Communism was the literal basis for everything the Nazis did. In their eyes they were saving Europe from Communism. The fact that so many Jews had been involved in the Russian revolution, and in Marxism generally, was one of two main reasons Hitler hated Jews, with the other being Jewish involvement in the Treaty of Versailles.

The Communists were the very first group Hitler put into the camps. He absolutely despised them. Socialism itself, as perhaps some people might be aware, was the transitionary phase which Marx believed had to precede a fully Communist society.

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QueenBee(10) Disputed
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In all of that, you left out that he demonized Capitalism while calling it a Jewish invention. He then executed more Jews for being Capitalists by far than he executed Communists in Germany.

Side: Nahh, they LOVED each other
Righteo(12) Disputed
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he demonized Capitalism

Can you actually read English? Private capital in Germany under Hitler outperformed private capital in America under Roosevelt. For all his bluster, Hitler loved capitalism because it powered the German military machine.

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Well, if we're number crunching we must link the Nazi's slaughter of Russian military personnel, the figures of which vary from 15 million to 17 million, with THE STALIN PURGES with the most conservative estimates showing a figure of 20 million.

Some 70% to 80% of the 6 million German soldiers who formed the Barbarossa campaign perished in their failed invasion of Russia.

Deaths due to combat on the battlefield is a horrendous abomination, the murder of defenceless civilians in a futile attempt to make a political ideology work is an unforgiveable act of savage barbarity.

Side: Nahh, they LOVED each other
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27,000,000 - That's the number of Socialist Russians that the Nazi's killed in WW II

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He also invaded far right Poland with the Russians. Mao killed hundreds of millions of Chinese socialists while also being a socialist. What exactly is your point here, that socialists kill socialists? We already knew that. It's why we don't want socialism.

Side: Nahh, they LOVED each other
Righteo(12) Clarified
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He also invaded Poland with the Russians.

Except no he didn't. He didn't want to mess with the Russians before his military was powerful enough so he created a non-aggression pact with them and they both went into Poland separately.

Mao killed hundreds of millions of Chinese socialists

No, Mao's policies were responsible for the deaths of approximately 45 million Chinese peasants. Your ridiculous exaggeration is stupid, as is your claim that they were all socialists.

Also, Chinese life expectancy increased drastically under Mao.

Side: Yeah, they HATED each other
LizardKahn(192) Disputed
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He didn't want to mess with the Russians before his military was powerful enough so he created a non-aggression pact with them and they both went into Poland separately.

To simplify your statement, the National Socialists and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics created a socialist pact of which they both invaded a right wing country.

Side: Yeah, they HATED each other
LizardKahn(192) Disputed
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No, Mao's policies were responsible for the deaths of approximately 45 million Chinese peasants.

This is you admitting that Communist regimes are glad to murder the poor by the tens of millions.

Also, Chinese life expectancy increased drastically under Mao

In other words, you gladly support genocide if life expectancy goes up for those not murdered, even if you would wind up being one of the people murdered because it's for the common good of life expectancy for the few chosen people that get to live. How does the concept of the chosen get to live while millions are murdered make you any different in world philosophy than Adolf Hitler?

Side: Yeah, they HATED each other
Norwich(1576) Disputed
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The number of Russians, mainly peasant small holding farmers, killed by Stalin during the period of his purges varies enormously.

The accepted figure by most historians is between 15 million to 17 million and according to the New York Times, up to 20 million.

It is vital that we show the figure of civilians/non-combatants murdered by Stalin to maintain a balance of the atrocities committed and by whom.

During the Nazi invasion of Russia German soldiers killed an estimated 15 to 17 million Russian combatants as well as a civilians.

The greater of the two evils is, in my opinion the slaughter of defenseless civilians by one of the most notorious criminal dictators of all times.

For some unfathomable reason you introduced Mao Zedong and made an outlandish claim that he murdered 100s of millions of his own people.

Mao Zedong, who is considered to be the greatest mass murderer in the history of mankind is attributed with the unenviable reputation of murdering 45 million Chinese civilians.

Despite this it is note worthy that for many years, and in some parts still to this day it is acceptable to be seen in public while flaunting a MAO T-SHIRT but to wear any garment indicating support for Donald Trump will almost certainly attract a physical attack, or at least verbal abuse by the loony lefties/wokees.

Side: Yeah, they HATED each other