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True. Wait..., what? No!
Debate Score:30
Arguments:29
Total Votes:33
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2 mass shootings within a week is a sign the U.S. is getting back to normal

True.

Side Score: 21
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Wait..., what? No!

Side Score: 9
2 points

Actually, there were 7 mass shootings in that week. You might want to DUCK!

Side: True.

Actually, there were 7 mass shootings in that week.

Wait a minute...

7 mass shootings? Amarel has 7 guns.

Hmmm... 👀

Side: True.

I don't understand why people don't try to look for the silver lining in things ;)

Side: True.
1 point

Come on they can improve on that as more intellectual powerhouses in the US have concluded the solution is simple .....more guns 💪 it’s so obvious how did I miss it 😿

Side: True.
Amarel(5669) Disputed
1 point

I think we have plenty of guns. What we need is equity in gun distribution. As it is, the majority of the guns are in the hands of a relatively few greedy gun enthusiasts.

What we need is a gun ban on more than 1 of the same kind of assault rifle. If you have too many guns, you have to give them to underprivileged, lgbtq, or other populations that are under represented among gun owners.

Side: Wait..., what? No!
Jody(1791) Disputed
2 points

A sizable proportion of Americans can never have enough guns and what’s the problem it’s only the ordinary “Joe’s “ getting shot like shop workers and ordinary working class kids at schools probably haven’t even got medical coverage .......You have already admitted you’re a nation of “ gun safety fanatics “ so what’s the big deal ?

Side: True.
1 point

So, what we're saying here is, take away ALL the guns from private citizens.

Such a measure would of course have to include all hand guns as significantly more people, especially gang members, are killed with this type of firearm than any other form of gun.

Now, everyone has been good at claiming the moral high-ground and SMUGLY stating the obvious.

As usual there will always be swarms of puffed-up wise men clamoring to bellow loudest what needs to be done but none who have any idea how to implement their naive solutions.

Anyone who would argue that it would be a simple matter of over-riding the 2nd amendment and expecting everyone to meekly surrender their guns would of course be stark ravening mad.

If however, these social-science Einsteins have planned out how to have these lethal weapons taken off the streets then, starting from here, let them publish their roadmap for a gun amnesty .

Side: Wait..., what? No!
BurritoLunch(6566) Clarified
2 points

So, what we're saying here is, take away ALL the guns from private citizens.

And introduce a proper education program to roll back the decades worth of mass propaganda the firearms industry has used to saturate US culture, somehow convincing the citizens that everybody needs the means to instantly murder 20 people.

Such a measure would of course have to include all hand guns as significantly more people, especially gang members, are killed with this type of firearm than any other form of gun.

It worked to reduce gun crime in the UK:-

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/longreads/firearms-act-twenty-years-has-it-made-difference-dunblane-port-arthur-a8110911.html

Anyone who would argue that it would be a simple matter of over-riding the 2nd amendment and expecting everyone to meekly surrender their guns would of course be stark ravening mad.

Stark ravening mad is proposing we refuse to implement much needed new laws over imagined fears about how difficult they could be to implement. I can just imagine it now. "The right honourable gentleman is stark ravening mad to believe we could successfully implement a law against rape. Far too many women are raped for that. The men will not stand for it. There will be blood on the streets!!", yada, yada, yada.

The fact is bud, you break the law (and get caught) you go to jail. That's how it works, that's how it has always worked, and that's how it would work this time.

Side: True.
Mongele(643) Clarified
1 point

Good to see you have it all figured out.

Such romantic claptrap could only come from someone who never held a position of responsibility and in common with all subordinate underlings you of course know how to run the company/country better than the management/government.

That is until you're in the driving seat and get to see The Big Picture.

I do not believe that anyone right in the head could really believe the simplistic solution you've presented.

No deadly mass riots, no nationwide polarizing demonstrations and violent counter demonstrations.

Yes, firearms need to be taken off the streets to reduce the distressingly high gun related death rate but my dear boy, such a goal is not going to be the simple affair you are proposing.

But, thanks for the reply.

Side: True.
AveSatanas(4443) Disputed
2 points

When a dozen white kids get murdered in CT and absolutely nothing happens, you know it's never going to happen.

This same BS fearmongering gets trotted out every time a shooting happens. Alot of talk. Some proposals. And then nothing happens.

I could maybe entertain the concerns over assault weapons being banned. But ALL guns? Lmao. K. Over 300m guns in circulation are just gonna be rounded up? K.

Side: True.
BurritoLunch(6566) Clarified
1 point

This same BS fearmongering gets trotted out every time a shooting happens. Alot of talk. Some proposals. And then nothing happens.

And why do you suppose nothing happens? Do you think perhaps it might have something to do with the $250 million dollars the NRA spends on lobbying every year? Or the fact that their budget exceeds the combined total of all the gun control groups put together?

But ALL guns? Lmao. K. Over 300m guns in circulation are just gonna be rounded up? K.

Nobody needs to "round up" anything you neanderthal. That isn't how the law works. If I make something illegal and you do it after I've made it illegal, you go to jail.

Does the government need to round up all the drugs to make selling drugs against the law? No. So shut up.

Side: True.
Mint_tea(4641) Disputed
2 points

So, what we're saying here is, take away ALL the guns from private citizens.

No dude, it's clear the message is that we need a pandemic to stop mass shootings. Just one, never ending plague of epic proportions ought to do it.

Side: True.
Mongele(643) Disputed
1 point

Hi Dude, Buddy-Boy, Mate, Pal, Dear Boy/Girl, My old Mucker, My man/Woman, Mrs, McDooky or whatever you are;- Are you on prescription drugs or do you dabble in recreational narcotics?

I refuse to believe that a sober and sane person could scribble such incoherent bilge.

What the hell are you on about you pathetic old idiot?

Side: Wait..., what? No!

Hey, correct me if I'm wrong but..., did I just detect a hint of sarcasm ;)

Side: True.
davidbend(8) Clarified
1 point

I definitely enjoyed reading your post; it was quite helpful to me. If you have time, you are invited to play monopoly online with me.

Side: True.