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The Mongols were civilized The Mongols were Uncivilized
Debate Score:269
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(2nd) Mongols: CIVILIZED or UNCIVILIZED?

Were the Mongols good or bad for humanity? 

The Mongols were civilized

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The Mongols were Uncivilized

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The Mongols were religiously tolerant and culturally tolerant. they allowed for the conquered to keep cultural identity and religion after they were taken over. they even adapted to new cultures that they had seen throughout their conquest.

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I like how you added that they adapted to new cultures through areas they conquered. To make it a little bit stronger I would just add an example of a culture or tradition they adopted.

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They practiced religious tolerance among all subjects as well as treated their soldiers well, promoted based on merit, rather than birth, established a vast postal system, and enforced universal rule of law.

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Practiced religious tolerance and allowed Muslims, Christians, Buddhists, and Doasists to practice their religion. They were open to any cultures and religions

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I agree that this would be a great claim the use in a DBQ like environment

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They promoted diversified economic development. They built canals for trade, were patrons of the arts, and even created tax free customs zones protected by the Pax Mongolia

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Open to new ideas, religion, culture, learning, innovations. They immediately incorporated better techniques/innovations and other cultural aspects into their empire for use. If you made it and they saw it as useful, good then they incorporated it into their life and empire. Pretty religious and culturally accepting as well.

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The Mongols helped abolished bride kidnapping and allowed women to hold power.

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They promoted Using merit rather than birth for there military.

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MONGOL WARRIOR

As we conquered many cities, we spared those who were obedient and talented. We allowed them to continue living which is a civilized action. We killed those who were evil towards our progress and help benefit those who could help us. We saved peoples lives when we took them over, and we overall helped hem as their city and people benfied from joining our profitable empire

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They added protection to the silk road causing it to prosper again and become used even more.

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The Mongols were religiously tolerant to the people that were recently conquered by them as long as they paid tax/tribute to them.

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The Mongols made the Silk Roads flourish once more, allowing trade and cultural exchange between East and West, and its legacy forged Russia and China into unified states.

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Increased communication through Eurasia by developing this pony express like system of way stations with horses and riders that could quickly relay information.

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Their attitude of relative openness toward foreigners and foreign influence led to an extraordinary interchange of products, peoples, technology, and science throughout the Mongol domains.

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With having an openness to other's ideas, it definitely had a positive impact on the Mongol and their power among people.

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when destroying a city, the Mongols spared artisans, philosophers, and people with skill, later on they would put those people in multiple parts of their empire which allowed knowledge to spread throughout it

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Practiced religious tolerance amongst the empire. Warriors treated well , promoted wealth based on merrit, established a vast postal system, and enforced universal rule of law.

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The Mongols were civilized because they practiced religious tolerance and did not discriminate against others due to their religion. They wanted to expand their empire as much as they could, so religion did not play a huge role for them.

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The also adapted to new cultures with art from the religions and new architectural designs

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While massacring cities, the Mongols often times spared doctors, scholars, and artisans.

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The Mongols allowed women to hold domestic affair and divorce their husbands.

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The Mongols were civilized because they helped with trade by protecting the silk road, which helped it flourish.

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They built roads, bridges, postal offices, and expanded the Grand Canal into China

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The Mongols protected the Silk Road leading it to become the safest it had ever been with little to none robbing.

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The Mongols dave women more rights than any other society at the time, women could have status and could also divorce their husbands if they wanted too

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They were located near the Silk Road allowing for easy trade access

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They also protected the Silk Road and kept it safe for travellers.

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they allowed religious tolerance and women rights, meaning they were ahead of their time

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I agree they were ahead of their times with women rights since not many people cared and treated women correctly

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I agree this shows how civilized the mongols were and how they helped improve the life of citizens.

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The Mongol Khans also funded advances in medicine and astronomy throughout their domains. And their construction projects

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Women in Mongolia had more independence from the Patriarchal structure of society

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They gave women more rights in the sense that they had more freedom and the ability to get divorced.

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they conquered more land in 25 years than the romans did in 400, meaning their system did work for that time

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viclysek(11) Disputed
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I have to agree with the fact that they did conquer a lot of land, but the system they used was very much wrong. They shouldn't of have killed as many people as they did. All of those innocent lives died only because they didn't want to be under the rule of someone else.

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The Mongols built a lot of infrastructure like roads, bridges, postal stations, and extending the Grand Canal.

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Developed systems throughout Eurasia that could quickly relay information.

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The Mongols had a benevolent attitude toward foreign religions, or at least a policy of benign neglect.

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Military protected the Silk Road from bandits and attacks

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When they conquered the land, they relocated artisans and skills men to other parts of the Empire, enriching people of knowledge on how to prosper

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the mongols built great things and established new infrastructure including the expansion of the grand canal, the creation of new bridges and roads, and the creation of a new postal system. they also built a beautiful city called Karakorum.

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their lifestyle is very resourceful and they are aware of them selves

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When the Mongols conquered different areas they kept people that would benefit them. For example, the kept artisans to produce goods for them which they were then able to trade with.

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The Mongols increased communication throughout Eurasia by developing the pony express system (Yam System) which was basically like a rest stop for travelers

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The military used their resources very well and incorporated other group' ideas and innovations.

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Built roads, bridges, postal stations, and extended the Grand Canal; improved transportation routes and infrastructure

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Did not kill doctors, scholars, or artisans, instead they transferred them throughout the world where they spread their knowledge with others.

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They practiced religious tolerance, and patronized the arts.

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Mongol women had pretty good lives considering the time period. They were able to divorce their husbands, control domestic affairs, and were trusted advisors.

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Mongolian women more independent as they could divorce men, remarry, and were seen as reliable advisors.

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The mongols created an effective pony express, which spread oral messages.

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Protected the Silk Road, provided protection of trade and trade routes in their territory, which in turn made the Silk Road that much more profitable

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Incorporated captured people, that surrendered, into his tribe rather than making them slaves

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They had strict laws against bodily harm, thievery and murder as well.

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The Mongolian Empire had religious tolerance with everyone who existed within the empire.

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Ghengis Khan even setup a messenger system which improved communication within his empire

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They protected travel under a period of Pax Mongolica creating peace.

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The Mongols were the first to unite the east and the west and to bring Europe and China real news.

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The Mongolian army was very strategic. They would study maps to plan out attacks using surprise and craft.

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The Mongols were civilized because they expanded the Grand Canal in China, helping trade.

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They protected the Silk Road and kept it safe for travellers

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The Mongolians incorporated the technology of the empires they lead siege to with their own.

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They destroyed many cities and made people surrender, but, the people they did surrender were able to practice their own religion. As long as they didn't retaliate, they were able to live relatively freely.

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They were tolerant towards religions meaning they were ahead of the time

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They helped the rise of an educated class in modern-day Korea.

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States that survived and surrendered during the conquest, benefited from the revival of their trade routes on the Silk Road.

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They extended the Grand Canal in China. They also built roads, bridges, and postal stations.

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Mongols had fast and efficient postal service and they funded advances in medicine

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The military was very uninformed and punished to carry out the uniformity and loyalty to the leaders

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The Mongols didn't control others' religious beliefs even when concurring cities they would let them believe what they want they just needed to pay their tax.

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I united all the Mongol Clans into one of the best-organized armies in the world! - Genghis Khan

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Sorghaghtani Beki--daughter-in-law: Her son Khubilai (Kubla) Khan, became Great Khan and conquered the Chine empire, expanding it greatly

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Xe Heng - appointed by Kubli Khan in the Yuan Dynasty to serve as president of the imperial academy. he made his life better by putting him in a better position.

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William Rubrick: His roundtrip journey lasted the better part of three years. William had the distinction of being the first European to visit the Mongol capital of Karakorum on the Orkhon River and return to write about it.

He provides a unique description of the Khan's palace there and abundant detail about the individuals of various ethnicities and religions whom he encountered.

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I may have been illiterate, but I mandated the creation and use of written Mongolian. - Genghis Khan

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They innovated the Silk Road after the fall of Rome, prospering both Europe and Asia. (Perspective of a Silk Road Merchant)

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MONGOL WARRIOR

I was part of the best-organized army at the time, and we were the best with our weapons and horses. Being a well-trained warrior, an organized army is important in a society, and with all the advanced tactics, we were pretty smart and civilized for our enhanced, advanced military.

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William Rubrick: He was particularly interested in the Nestorian Christians. He describes generally with great precision Mongol traditional culture, many features of which have survived amongst the herders one may observe today in inner Asia.

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Kublai Khan helped create the mongol-Chinese Yuan dynasty.

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Michael_M(7) Clarified
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How did Kublai help create it? Did they make the laws that dictated the duration of the dynasty or was it something else?

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Set an example for other Mongol women because she was spirited, independent and outspoken. Most likely was the influence for Genghis Khan’s policies that allowed women to actively participate in empire affairs. - Hoelun

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Xe Heng - he was in charge of the academic of the children in the dynasty allowing neo-Confucianism to spread and still be apparent in society.

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Our army was outnumbered in many battles yet we were almost undefeated. We had great military tactics that helped us win. We were the best horsemen and established the largest land empire in the world. - Genghis Khan

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kartomasik(11) Clarified
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What were some tactics you used during war that worked well?

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Mother of Genghis Khan. Supported Genghis efforts in uniting the nomadic people -Hoelun

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saachi(10) Clarified
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how did she help unite the nomadic people, what were her efforts in Genghis Khan's empire and what made her support her son?

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Robbery and bands of thieves went down when the Mongols started to protect the Silk Road(Silk Road Merchant).

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William Rubrick: He viewed the Mongols as civilized by the way he describes the palace as “abundant” and he also worked with the Mongols to promote Christianity. purpose of promoting conversion to Christianity and gauging support of the Mongols for Crusades on behalf of King Louis IX.

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Xe Heng - became an informed advisor for the Yuan dynasty

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Sorghaghtani Beki--daughter-in-law: Valued education and educated all her sons, so they could rule after her late husband.

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Ideal mother and wife. Because of people’s conflicts with her family, wars arose, which eventually were what led to the Mongols conquered. -Hoelun

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Silk Road Merchant: More interest in trade appeared with Europeans and Asians.

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Elijah-M(21) Clarified
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You are saying they connected the East and West, correct? Is the interaction between Europeans and Asians really that beneficial though?

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MONGOL WARRIOR

I got to see the conquering of many cities and the cities we conquered benefited from our attacks as they joined our amazing army and Mongol Empire. Yes we stole their riches, but they benefited more than their riches from joining our prosperous empire

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Kublai Khan was thought to be too Chinese when he was able to become the great Khan.

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Kublai Khan had to deal with his cousins and nephew attacking the border of china swiftly.

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The Mongols helped protect trade routes and traveling merchants which promoted trade and was economically beneficial.

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The mongols were not only more tolerant towards different religions but also lower classes.

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Practiced religious tolerance, treated soldiers well and promoted them based on merit. The Mongols also created a postal and law system.

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The Mongols began using the Silk Road again to trade successfully and stabilize relations between Russia and China. They traded salts and metals - some of the largest loads in the world at the time.

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Men and women both contributed to society, and gender hierarchies didn’t exist. Women were responsible for domestic affairs, could divorce their husbands, and were consulted in affairs. Men were responsible for laws and order and making decisions on behalf on the rest of society.

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Marco Polo wrote of huge transportation canals like those in his hometown of Venice, Italy. Citizens could purchase paperback books, eat rice from porcelain, and wear silk garments. Salt production via the Silk Road was huge and steel production was at a level not yet reached by Europe.

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Marco Polo continues descriptions of the Mongols wealth; the vastness of the place, an enormous population requiring tons of food, and other resources that the Mongols continued to produce.

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Three different levels of society that executed the many laws and rules that the Mongols had created. Hierarchy based on merit and not on social status was common, and this led to many regulations. Tolerance of differences was common, and Mongols were only harsh when not obeyed by their people.

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After they conquered cities or places they would rape women and kill males/men (usually younger) so that they couldn’t reproduce and that the Mongol population/descendants would grow, while the city they conquered would have less descendant of that people.

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I agree that this is not something a empire would do if they were civilized

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Fearsome plunderer and looters. They looted the riches and prized possessions of the cities/places they conquered, as well as stole workers that were seen as specialized or essential (also stole women). Destroyed homes and took people away from their families and home

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When there wasn’t time to milk the Mongols drank horse blood.

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Pope Innocent IV (2): Pope Innocent sent off a letter with some emissaries to the Great Khan, leader of the Mongols. The Khan at the time was Güyük Khan. He sent some Benedictine monks with the letter. They traveled more than three thousand miles, and it took them more than eighteen months to get to the Mongol camp. And when they finally did get there, they were kept waiting for another few months before they finally had their audience with the Great Khan. The letter was saying that Great Khan should be careful because he is putting himself at the risk of the judgment of God and he wanted peace

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When the Mongols ran out of food they ate one of every ten of their soldiers

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EmmaKennedy(11) Clarified
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How did they pick which soldiers to eat and how long did they have to do that?

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Ahtziri(12) Clarified
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It did not say how long or how they chose the soldiers. It did say that those who knew the Mongols would say that they were creatures with dog heads with human flesh

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The Mongols annihilated entire cities if they didn't surrender. This led to the death of millions.

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The Mongols were known to take out a baby from the womb of a pregnant woman.

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Army brutality- ripped unborn children from mother’s wounds. Used prisoners as shields or moat fillers, took women from conquered towns

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I agree that this definitely makes them uncivilized and is very brutal.

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The Mongols helped spread the plague (Black Death) by catapulting their soldier’s bodies, who were infected with the disease, across enemy walls to eliminate the people in that city. This is known as biological warfare.

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Genghis Khan’s armies were said to have killed 1.6 million people in the city of Herat in northwestern Afghanistan in 1222; that’s 1.6 million, dispatched with arrows, clubs, and swords

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Witness: Prince Mstislav lll of Kiev - Prince Mstislav and the others held out for three days before surrendering. The Mongols celebrated their victory with a feast and constructed a platform to sit upon for their feast. The captive Russian princes did not enjoy the banquet because the Mongols used them in the construction of the platform as support for the planks - they were crushed as the Mongols celebrated. Ultimately, the Prince and others died from being crushed by the Mongols.

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The Mongols catapulted dead bodies infected with the plague over the walls of cities that refused to surrender. This made the spread of the plague even more rapid.

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2/3 of China's population was killed during the expansion of the Mongol empire.

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I support this because it would be a good piece of evidence to include in an essay.

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They helped spread the Bubonic Plague and other diseases through their conquest as they came into contact with people who were not immune to their diseases and bacteria.

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The Mongols were uncivilized because they were fearsome plungers, and were reckless when stealing.

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They were brutal warriors. They killed anyone who didn't surrender to them

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The Mongols were very barbaric. They were violent and annihilated those who refused to surrender.

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The Mongols used prisoners as human shields during sieges of other empires.

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When the conquered lands they did so by driving all the people out of the land and killing them. No one left alive

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The Mongols were uncivilized because they helped spread the plague by trade and by recklessly invading cities.

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Due to their expensive major public works, taxes and inflation increased throughout the empire.

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Their empire did not last, and they didn't leave behind any architecture.

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The Mongols were ruthless killers who would kill everyone in other cities who wouldn't surrender.

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They killed millions of people, destroyed cities, and spread the plague. Yet, their empire didn't even last 150 years. Everything they did to conquer land was basically for nothing.

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Made those that didn't surrender to them suffer or killed them.

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They destroyed cities, stole from them, and killed millions of people.

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They also used psychological warfare when invading their enimies, terrorizing the citizens.

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When conquering new land, mongols took skilled workers to work for them and exploit their skills.

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They would use chemical warfare throwing dead bodies with plaques into their enemies base.

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Spread disease. Most likely responsible for Black Death. Sometimes on purpose.

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The Mongols were uncivilized because they annihilated those who refused to surrender to them and did not give an effort to settle disputes calmly.

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The Mongols left a very small cultural footprint on history. They gave us no new language, no new religion, or a lasting civilization.

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Aeleen_B(9) Clarified
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how does not leaving a "footprint" nor leaving something "cultural" make them uncivilized?

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The reputation of the Mongols for slaughter spread even farther than their actual Conquest.based on Persian, Chinese, Russian, and other accounts of the speed and ruthlessness with which the Mongols carved out the largest contiguous land empire in world history,

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their empire did not last long, within 80 years they were basically replaced in china

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They had piles of skulls from the people they killed using psychological warfare.

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They destroyed many cities and recklessly killed tons of people.

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When the Mongols conquered they only seemed to be able to have success through violence. They destroyed cities, catapulted dead bodies towards enemy sides, and stole from enemies.

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The Mongols were fearsome plunderers who used psychological warfare and their own reputation to put fear in enemy eyes and overtake the cities they were in charge of

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the mongols did force people to surrender to them- using fear tactics

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The Golden Horde slaughtered 10% of the Global Population through the conquests they made.

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Weatherford states that ‘conservative scholars place the number of dead from Genghis Khan’s invasion of central Asia at 15 million within five years’, however ‘even this more modest total…would require that each Mongol kill more than a hundred people’.

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The Mongols destroyed many cities, known as "asteriod collision".

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When the enemies refused to surrender the Mongols would annihilate them.

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They were reckless and were one of the causes for the spreading of the Black Death.

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They annihilated those who didn’t surrender and killed millions of people throughout their expansion.

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In order to keep his (Khan's) troops loyal to him, he told them that even if one person from a unit rebelled the whole entire unit would be killed too

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they annihilated those who refused to surrender and killed millions in the process. they also destroyed the cities and architecture when people did not surrender.

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The Mongols carried the Bubonic plague, throughout their routes and attacks from city to city.

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they used the force of fear against people, especially women and children for people who wouldn't surrender to them.

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They took out babies from their mother before the child was actually "born"

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They used prisoners as their human shields when they went into battle.

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helped the rapid spread of the Black Death due to the facks that they opened up trade and by catapulting their soldier's dead sick bodies, over their enemies walls, which is insane because the Mongols even thaught about biochemical warfare

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The Mongols traded along the Silk Road a lot which led to them being a big reason of spreading the plague which killed many more people and decreased the economy.

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They also destroyed many cities because of the countless amount of wars they were fighting.

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They promoted chemical warfare by throwing dead bodies to other sides

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Mongols and merchant caravans that were poorly quarantined and underreported by the Mongol government inadvertently brought the plague from central Asia to the Middle East and Europe.

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After the death of Genghis Khan, the empire fell leaving thousands of people without a city or leaders to help them recover. they also helped demolish the number of people in these cities by spreading the Black Death leaving more hopelessness.

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Khan and his men Killed up to 4 million where killed, which was 10% of the population at the time, where Very brutal

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They spread the plague and the empire did not last that long

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Pope Innocent IV: In the 1230s and 1240s, the Mongol armies were raiding Russian towns and cities. These armies even made their way into modern-day Poland and Hungary. They did more raiding than occupying territory—they would come and take what they could and leave a lot of death. It left Eastern Europe and Russia unsettled and it started a panic through the rest of Europe and the Holy Roman Empire. And that is when the pope got involved.

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Muhammad II- the mongols used gory tactics to brutally murder mass amounts of people in the smallest amount of time

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Millions of people died during the Mongolian era due to this

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Qutuz and his general Baybars 1 were ready for a fight against the Mongols since they executed Hulegu’s emissary.

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Alauddin Khali believed the Mongols were uncivilized because they launched many vicious attacks on Delhi Sultanate in India.

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RachelL(14) Clarified
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Did he live in the city or was he just a bystander in another place

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Witness: Prince Mstislav lll of Kiev - Prince Mstislav lll of Kiev fought against the Mongols, who were trying to conquer Russia. However, it didn’t end up going the way he thought it would. The Mongols massacred the Russian camp before anyone could organize a defense.

Side: The Mongols were Uncivilized
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Al-Musta'sim refused to have allegiance with Hulegu so the Mongols started to attack the city of Baghdad.

Side: The Mongols were Uncivilized
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The‌ ‌Mongols‌ ‌would‌ ‌not‌ ‌leave‌ ‌behind‌ ‌any‌ ‌infrastructure‌ ‌when‌ ‌they‌ ‌left‌ ‌for‌ ‌an‌ ‌attack, take innovations and ideas with them away from the city they conquered.

Side: The Mongols were Uncivilized
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in Juvayni book, he talks about how he thought that the Mongols had the strength of 700,000 men, how they were smart by rounding up all the meat over a large region and dried it for the winter, how they were quick in battle, and how they were ruthless

Side: The Mongols were Uncivilized
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muuhammas II- the mongols were not good at governing themselves

Side: The Mongols were Uncivilized
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Qutuz had the throne and was able to lead the Mamluk to victory against the Mongols

Side: The Mongols were Uncivilized
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Sorghaghtani Beki--daughter-in-law: Demanded that the peoples of the Empire must be supported rather than mindlessly exploited.

Side: The Mongols were Uncivilized
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Witness: Prince Mstislav lll of Kiev - Many of the Russians attempted to flee, only to be cut down, but Prince Mstislav and a few others retreated and rallied a force at a rocky area on the banks of the Kalka and resisted Mongol attacks. As this occurred, other Mongols pursued the Kipchaks and any Russians who fled all the way to the banks of the Dniepe.

Side: The Mongols were Uncivilized
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Resident of Balkh Bukhara in 1220- Genghis Khan invaded and attacked their city, killing 20,000 of their soldiers, and they ended up surrendering.

Side: The Mongols were Uncivilized
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In his book, Juvayni stated “The first stones which were discharged from them broke the defenders' trebuchet and many were crushed under it. Fear of the quarrels from the crossbows overcame them so that they were in a complete panic and tried to make shields out of veils [i.e. they did best to defend with very indadequate equipment.] Some who were standing on towers crept in their terror like mice into holes or fled like lizards into the crannies of the rocks”

Side: The Mongols were Uncivilized
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Zhao Bing

The Mongol general Bayan was bent on eliminating the threat posed by Song remnants, so he led his troops in pursuit and attacked southern China. He was forced to flee in order not to be killed due to mass murder of the song dynasty

Side: The Mongols were Uncivilized
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When the Mongols sacked the city of Baghdad when Al-Musta'ism was Caliph he lost all the mosques, universities, libraries, inhabitants, and treasures that were in Baghdad.

Side: The Mongols were Uncivilized
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Qutuz was prepared to fight and he had a larger amount of soldiers to fight the Mongols. He had 120,000 men. Qutuz had a lot more soldiers

Side: The Mongols were Uncivilized
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Empire could not last without the constant uniform community and poor leadership.

Side: The Mongols were Uncivilized
markgnatyuk(9) Clarified
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How did they have poor leadership when they united all Mongol tribes and they demanded loyalty from conquered people?

Side: The Mongols were civilized
1 point

Gabriele de Mussis (city of Kaffa) - The Black Death is widely believed to have reached Europe from the Crimea as the result of a biological warfare attack this could have been lead to the Mongols and their ruthless biological warfare tactics.

Side: The Mongols were Uncivilized
SamuelR(10) Clarified
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How many wars/fights did they use these biological warfare tactics in?

Side: The Mongols were civilized
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They use these tactics in at least 3 times however the battle of the Black Sea port of Caffa because that battle spread the black plaque into Europe.

Side: The Mongols were Uncivilized
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Muhammad II- the mongols were not very resistant and they would go to extreme measures to conquer land

Side: The Mongols were Uncivilized
aatikaq(11) Clarified
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How extreme were the measures that they went to? What are some examples?

Side: The Mongols were civilized
Lillyd(11) Disputed
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they raped women and used brutal scare tactics to force people to surrender, if they chose not to surrender the mongols would kill and destroy entire cities to conquer land

Side: The Mongols were civilized
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Alauddin Khali - The Mongols military would come in and ruthlessly destroy cities not caring about the outcome.

Side: The Mongols were Uncivilized
HaileyTucek(11) Clarified
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Couldn't you argue that they may have cared a little bit because they spared doctors, scholars, and artisans?

Side: The Mongols were civilized
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Resident of Balkh Bukhara in 1220- During the invasion, the Mongols killed everyone in sight, except for skilled workers to exploit, and men to fight in the Mongol army

Side: The Mongols were Uncivilized
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Resident of Balkh Bukhara in 1220- The mongols looted, burned, and destroyed their city, leaving nothing behind.

Side: The Mongols were Uncivilized
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Al-Musta'ism had to pick between the Mamluks or Mongols, but Al-Musta'ism didn't get to decide because the Mongols already went on their way to attack Baghdad.

Side: The Mongols were Uncivilized
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De Mussis recorded an early example of biological warfare in describing the hurling of plague-infected cadavers over the Kaffa city walls by the besieging Tartars in 1346.

Side: The Mongols were Uncivilized
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Pope Innocent IV (3):The Great Khan sent a letter back to the pope. He said, “If you should act up to your word then you, the great pope, should come with the monarchs to pay us homage and we should thereupon instruct you.” He went on to inform the pope that he was not subject to the pope, but rather it was the other way around. The Pope's letter was not a success and the Mongols continued to raid.

Side: The Mongols were Uncivilized
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Alauddin Khali - The Mongols continued to launch attacks even though their army became weak and they began losing their battles, leading to their collapse.

Side: The Mongols were Uncivilized

They Killed 40 million across Eurasia about 10% of the world population at the time.

Side: The Mongols were Uncivilized

When china was under mongol attack they lost 2/3 of there population.

Side: The Mongols were Uncivilized

Were know to use prisoners as moat bridges for siege equipment.

Side: The Mongols were Uncivilized
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They spread the Plague. They also used phycholigical warfare.

Side: The Mongols were Uncivilized
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The mongols would pillage and many destroy cities. This resulted in the death of millions of people.

Side: The Mongols were Uncivilized
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The Mongolian leader was brutal killing millions of people, raiding cities, and even throwing diseased heads to kill enemies.

Side: The Mongols were Uncivilized
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Hojo Tokimune- The Mongols requested tribute from Japan and when they refused they attacked.

Side: The Mongols were Uncivilized
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Hojo Tokimune- Because of the Mongols attacks on Japan and the lack of wealth brought from it it led to the downfall of the Hojo family.

Side: The Mongols were Uncivilized
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40 million (10%) of the world's population were killed in the Mongols conquests.

Side: The Mongols were Uncivilized
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While destroying towns, the Mongols terrorized the people as well. They ripped unborn children from mother's wombs and used prisoners as human shields.

Side: The Mongols were Uncivilized
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The Mongols catapulted the Plague-infected soldiers to the other side of the city. Dead bodies were landing on the city's floors. People fled, but the Plague caught on to millions of people.

Side: The Mongols were Uncivilized
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mass murdered hundreds of thousands of people. .

Side: The Mongols were Uncivilized