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37% of Republicans are still unvaccinated compared with 9% of Democrats

Hello:

According to Lancet, Republican controlled states, that is with a Republican governor, both senators, and all the congressmen, had an 11% higher death rate from Covid than the Democratic states.

Is there any correlation between these numbers? 

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MAGA is smart

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Dems are brilliant

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"People with an Updated Booster (Age 5+ Years) 14.6%" CDC

Sad that only 14.6% of people 5+ are updated on booster.

Supporting Evidence: CDC 14.6% of people with update booster. (www.cdc.gov)
Side: MAGA is smart
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A) Freedom of choice and the independence of the individual remains a stronger character trait with Republicans than Democrat sheepeople.

B)The maliciously rumored results of this alleged survey could not possibly have been accurate as there is no way the vaccinators would be authorized, or sufficiently interested to inquire and record the political affiliation of the vaccine recipients.

C) Any such personal information gathered illegally could not be relied upon to be correct and due to the illegality of its compilation would not have been published by any reputable media source.

SUCH A YARN.

Side: MAGA is smart
excon(18261) Disputed
1 point

The maliciously rumored results of this alleged survey could not possibly have been accurate as there is no way the vaccinators would be authorized, or sufficiently interested to inquire and record the political affiliation of the vaccine recipients.

Hello N, and Merry Christmas:

It's not about individuals.. It's about trends. If the leadership of a state is Republican, it's reasonable to assume the majority of people in that state are Republican.

If you then count how many people got vaccinated, and the state they live in, a reasonable conclusion can be ascertained. Below is the data.. You're free to draw your own conclusion.

Below are the states and Washington, D.C., ranked by the percentage of their population that has been fully vaccinated against COVID-19, according to the CDC.

1. Rhode Island

Number of people fully vaccinated: 924,737

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 87.3

2. District of Columbia

Number of people fully vaccinated: 601,155

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 85.2

3. Vermont

Number of people fully vaccinated: 531,759

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 85.2

4. Massachusetts

Number of people fully vaccinated: 5,767,257

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 83.7

5. Maine

Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,115,331

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 83

6. Connecticut

Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,949,243

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 82.7

7. Hawaii

Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,150,030

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 81.2

8. New York

Number of people fully vaccinated: 15,645,421

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 80.4

9. Maryland

Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,795,597

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 79.3

10. New Jersey

Number of people fully vaccinated: 6,997,244

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 78.8

11. Virginia

Number of people fully vaccinated: 6,510,508

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 76.3

12. Washington

Number of people fully vaccinated: 5,764,251

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 75.7

13. New Mexico

Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,568,968

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 74.8

14. California

Number of people fully vaccinated: 29,355,886

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 74.3

15. Colorado

Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,217,334

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 73.2

16. Delaware

Number of people fully vaccinated: 709,866

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 72.9

17. Pennsylvania

Number of people fully vaccinated: 9,330,251

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 72.9

18. Oregon

Number of people fully vaccinated: 3,039,613

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 72.1

19. Minnesota

Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,050,922

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 71.8

20. New Hampshire

Number of people fully vaccinated: 972,047

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 71.5

21. Illinois

Number of people fully vaccinated: 8,995,759

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 71

22. Florida

Number of people fully vaccinated: 14,852,170

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 69.2

23. Wisconsin

Number of people fully vaccinated: 3,955,940

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 67.9

24. North Carolina

Number of people fully vaccinated: 6,993,941

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 66.7

25. Utah

Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,129,383

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 66.4

26. Nebraska

Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,276,662

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 66

27. South Dakota

Number of people fully vaccinated: 583,138

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 65.9

28. Arizona

Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,786,226

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 65.8

29. Kansas

Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,893,151

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 65

30. Alaska

Number of people fully vaccinated: 474,925

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 64.9

31. Iowa

Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,022,827

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 64.1

32. Nevada

Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,955,051

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 63.5

33. Texas

Number of people fully vaccinated: 18,270,722

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 63

34. Michigan

Number of people fully vaccinated: 6,206,131

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 62.1

35. Ohio

Number of people fully vaccinated: 7,041,967

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 60.2

36. Oklahoma

Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,382,657

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 60.2

37. South Carolina

Number of people fully vaccinated: 3,071,865

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 59.7

38. West Virginia

Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,067,097

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 59.5

39. Kentucky

Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,653,028

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 59.4

40. Montana

Number of people fully vaccinated: 630,035

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 58.9

41. Missouri

Number of people fully vaccinated: 3,608,269

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 58.8

42. North Dakota

Number of people fully vaccinated: 444,904

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 58.4

43. Indiana

Number of people fully vaccinated: 3,875,986

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 57.6

44. Georgia

Number of people fully vaccinated: 6,052,279

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 57

45. Arkansas

Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,709,904

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 56.7

46. Idaho

Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,005,451

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 56.3

47. Tennessee

Number of people fully vaccinated: 3,834,570

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 56.1

48. Louisiana

Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,551,905

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 54.9

49. Mississippi

Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,593,512

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 53.5

50. Alabama

Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,598,164

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 53

51. Wyoming

Number of people fully vaccinated: 306,174

Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 52.9

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Side: Dems are brilliant
Another-Alt(237) Disputed
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It's not about individuals.. It's about trends. If the leadership of a state is Republican, it's reasonable to assume the majority of people in that state are Republican.

If you then count how many people got vaccinated, and the state they live in, a reasonable conclusion can be ascertained.

What Norwich is saying is absolutely correct. If seventy percent of a state voted Democrat and seventy percent of the same state is vaccinated, there is no way to determine if it's the same seventy percent, a thirty/forty percent split, or any other combination allowed for by the math.

Your "conclusion" is a world away from reasonable, as per usual. What you are in fact doing is taking two separate sets of data, which there may or may not be a correlation between, and arbitrarily implying a cause/effect relationship between them.

If I open a thread about how people with blue eyes have an 11 percent higher death rate from Covid than those with brown eyes, it is not a "reasonable conclusion" to assume that the lethality of Covid varies dependent on eye colour. As is usually the case, the only "reasonable conclusion" to be found here is that you are a moron.

Side: MAGA is smart
Norwich(1576) Disputed
2 points

Any quixotic conclusion reached by the employment of the unscientific conjecture that there is a predetermined direct correlation between people's political ideology/allegiance and their attitude towards personal health matters is so fatally flawed that it must be deemed to be no more than inconsequential tittle-tattle and therefore dismissed out of hand as nothing more than misleading political propaganda.

Side: MAGA is smart

"Republicans are roughly six times more likely than Democrats to say they have no interest in being vaccinated, according to recent polls. "2021 Dan Goldberg and Alice Miranda Ollstein

Yes, the partisan divide is large.

Supporting Evidence: politco 2021 Dan Goldberg and Alice Miranda Ollstein (www.politico.com)
Side: Dems are brilliant
LordSauron(332) Disputed
1 point

And then it turns out the vaccine gives people blood clots, stroke, death etc and your dumb ass is proud that he tried to mandate that fucking shit. Jesus fucking Christ dude. Stay away from kids dude. You're either dumber than dirt, making you dangerous, or you're evil, which makes you dangerous. Maybe your stupid ass is just both.

Side: MAGA is smart
1 point

Slothful induction, while have critical thinking is good. Taking it too far is pseudo-skeptism also known as denial.

Everything points towards conservatives being more vaccine hesitant. Opposing lock downs, mask mandates, vaccine passports, etc. From the beginning conservative news and politicians have been downplaying playing the pandemic.

Side: Dems are brilliant
Another-Alt(237) Disputed
2 points

Everything points towards conservatives being more vaccine hesitant. Opposing lock downs, mask mandates, vaccine passports, etc. From the beginning conservative news and politicians have been downplaying playing the pandemic.

This is conspiracy thinking.

Side: MAGA is smart
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