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Debate Score:274
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Ended:10/23/20
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7th Pd - MONGOLS - CIVILIZED or UNCIVILIZED

CIVILIZED

Side Score: 144
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UNCIVILIZED

Side Score: 130
9 points

Mongols used advanced military techniques that were never before seen by their enemies, including psychological warfare, which the Mongols mastered. For example, they would send a small force to bait the enemy into their retreat, and when the enemy was far enough behind the front of the battle, the Mongols would swoop in from behind and annihilate their opponent.

Side: CIVILIZED
8 points

Established good governing tactics such as through a centralized government and through establishing advanced infrastructure. ON example of infrastructure is the pony express.

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5 points

Created best organized army in the world shows civilization working together ex.) quote from Jack Weatherfrord where he says “In a Flash the Mongol army could defeat every army, capture every fort, and bring down the walls of all the cities they conquered ''. also organized army into 1,000, 100,10,000, 10

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4 points

Genghis Khan gave a voice to the poor in other states by allowing them to join his ranks and prove themselves.

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3 points

Genghis Khan- I helped demonstrate a highly organized command structure. To do so, I may have used harsh discipline, but this remained effective, as we continued to progress economically and politically, and reigned one of the most dominant powers int he world. I made my soldiers stay up for long hours, sometimes even sleeping ont heir horses, but at the end of it, we were able to have a great defensive and offensive attack front.

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AllisonD(10) Clarified
1 point

Would all men be in the army or only the strongest men would be in the army?

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3 points

As a Mongolian Horse, I can say that the Mongols were civilized as they had ALL Mongolians learn to horse ride, no matter their gender. While those of "civilized" nations call us uncivilized, the men of their nations lack any respect at all for their women, who are just as important as men are.

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2 points

The Mongols had a less patriarchal society than most other civilizations. For example, Women were allowed to ride horses, tend animals, initiate divorce, and remarry after being widowed. This was much more than other early civilizations. Although ruthless, this demonstrates how the Mongols practiced many egalitarian moral values.

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2 points

The mongols were accepting of every religion and there was no discrimination based on beliefs.

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1 point

Marco Polo traveled across China conducting diplomatic missions for Kublai. He had arrived in China as a foreigner but came to be a member of Chinese society under the Mongols.

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1 point

You made a point that is a really good example for a civilized empire.

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2 points

Created one alphabetic system in which they united their kingdom. They translated the uygher alphabet into the language of the Mongols, and it is still used in Mogolia today.

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2 points

Due to the Mongol Empire the Silk Road flourished and made trade of goods and resources with other empires possible.

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2 points

The stabilization of their kingdom allowed people to trade safely on the silk road, connecting the east and west. Uniting China and Europe

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2 points

Mongols helped to protect the Silk Roads, leading to more trade occurring as people felt safer to trade on the route.

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2 points

They gave women more rights. For example, they were able to divorce their husbands, were trusted advisors, and were in charge of all household affairs. They could also become soldiers.

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2 points

The mongols let some of the citizens of the city go free, but only a select few were able to leave the city's walls.

Side: CIVILIZED
2 points

Mongols also allowed for the advancement of women's rights, allowing them to divorce, remarry, fight in the army, own land and property, and participate in other activities that women couldn't do in other nations.

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2 points

Silk Road Merchant:

Ortogh let merchants pool their resources to support a single caravan. If a caravan did not make it, no single merchant would be put out of business. This was made to support the merchants because they were very important to the Mongols

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2 points

Silk Road Merchant:

Mongols increased the availability of paper money and reduced some of the tariffs imposed on merchants. This made trade much easier for the merchants under their empire and by reducing the tariffs the merchants could make more money (which made a great free trade system).

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2 points

Genghis Khan- I am a great political leader, and that was reflected in the way the Mongols soon became one of the most dominant civilizations on Earth. I maintained a centralized government within the Mongols, was great at forming alliances (I wed my son to the neighboring Khan's daughter), and I am great at building upon power.

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riaa(7) Clarified
1 point

But the ways you dominated civilizations on Earth were often inhumane and killed millions of people. Being the leader, you may be biased towards your civilization. How would you describe the way you and your people built power and your large empire without harsh ways which were clearly uncivilized?

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2 points

Mother:

Overall, the difficulties that Hoelun faced throughout her lifetime along with her devotion to her children, both adopted and biological, paved the way for her to be represented as an exemplar for Mongol women and as the primary matriarch of the Chinggisid lineage. Women had more roles in society

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1 point

United war-torn Mongol clans; also made Russia and china into unified states

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1 point

I agree with you the Mongols were responsible for a lot of unity.

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1 point

Women had more power in the Mongol Empire rather than in any other civilizations or city.

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1 point

They protected merchants by putting their own men along the Silk Road. People felt really safe along the silk road that they could put gold on their back and feel safe.

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1 point

Promoted people based on merit and not their family position

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1 point

Mongols were civilized because of many reasons including the fact that they established strong capitals and governments within the empire.

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1 point

Mongols were hospitable to traders and encouraged travel along the silk road

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1 point

The Mongols built roads, bridges, and postal stations showing they were civilized in a way.

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1 point

Support for trade and merchants by protecting it and making sure it is safe for trade and making the paths

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1 point

The Mongols had an administration and taxation system in the Yuan Dynasty.

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1 point

They gave empires a chance to surrender before attacking.

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1 point

Yam system helped to increase communication through Eurasia (bronze passports facilitated travel)

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1 point

Artists and educated individuals were greatly valued and spread across the empire to help others.

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1 point

The mongols issued religious tolerance within the empire.

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1 point

They promoted culture by saving doctors, artisans, and sculptures.

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1 point

They helped to extend the Grand Canal and built many cities in China, including Beijing

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1 point

The Mongols also patronized the arts as in they saved artisans, and purchased art.

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1 point

Began global history by connecting East & West and help share new ideas with each other.

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1 point

The Mongol Empire was the biggest land empire ever, also Marco Polo supported this claim.

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2 points

Marco Polo marveled at China's cultural customs, great wealth, and complex social structure. He was impressed with the empire's paper money, efficient communication system, coal burning, gunpowder, and porcelain, and called Xanadu "the greatest palace that ever was."

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1 point

The Mongols patronized the arts and were big fans of painting and theater in China

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1 point

Mongols had stern military structure and utilized many intelligent tactics during war.

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1 point

Religion toleration can have many religions and was very accepting to all and everyone.

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1 point

The Mongols also built beautiful capitals along with infrastructure.

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1 point

The Mongol Empire had different military techniques that helped take control of other nations.

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1 point

The mongols also had support for trade which improved their status

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1 point

Many Mongols were open to religion, and didn't force their religion upon others.

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1 point

Organization of military; Gengis Khan organized the entire Mongol society into military units of 10,000, 1000, 100, 10. Effectively order/control groups

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1 point

Expanded the Grand Canal and protected the Silk Road, which allowed for greater trade.

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1 point

They allowed landowners to keep their land as long as they pledged loyalty once they conquered that land

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1 point

They practiced religious tolerance, treated their soldiers well, promoted based on merit, rather than birth, and established a postal service as well as their contribution to law.

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1 point

Communication strategies like military tactics ex.) unlike nomads they didn’t just all attack at once

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Mongol values backed by a formal code to maintain order, disciplinary action used for rebellion against this

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1 point

The Mongols had better treatment for women than most civilizations. For example, they could divorce and own land.

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1 point

Used new forms of weaponry in their military conquests such as gunpowder and cannons.

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built beautiful capitals and patronized the arts, saving many of them

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1 point

They protected the Silk Road and were helpful to the merchants that traveled along that path

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1 point

The Mongols were able to expand empire for example usign trade and building roads, bridges and expansign the silk road trade adn eventually connectign the east adn west through trade.

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1 point

The mongols had a sizable distance between them and their target city that they were sieging.

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1 point

During the Mongols peace period, Pax Mongolia helped support many artistic and cultural changes. The Silk Road was brought back into use and trade flourished.

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1 point

The Mongols had an organized army with very skilled generals as they crushed the armies of all other civilized nations, proving their superiority.

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1 point

Women had many rights and some of the wives of the leaders were their most trusted advisors.

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1 point

They had a very stong army. They were organized, loyal to their people, and were the best horsemen in the world at the time

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1 point

There are an estimated 16 million descendants of Genghis Khan alive today, meaning that he must have had a growing population in order to have children. Thus, cities would be made or at least occupied by mongols

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Promoted officials on basis of merit and loyalty; Communicated across vast distances with a form of written mail

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1 point

Mongols were able to create an empire with religious tolerance, which was very rare to see during this time.

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1 point

Used horses as a way of transportation in their conquests.

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1 point

They protected the culture of the lands by saving the best artisans and spreading the culture globally.

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1 point

The Mongols reconnected Europe to Asia via the Silk Road as they helped guarantee the protection of the roads from Bandits and set up way points along the routes for extended travel.

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1 point

Communication was increased during the reign of the Mongols. The Mongols covered such a vast expanse of land that was heavily protected. For example, they developed a letter system similar to the pony express.

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1 point

Women had more rights. They could divorce their husbands and become advisors.

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1 point

The mongols trained notaries to be able to be document government records.

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1 point

After Genghis Khan died, his empire was split into 4 Khanates, each with a Great Khan under its control. Dividing up land makes it easier for an empire to last

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1 point

Used new, never-before seen weapons of war skillfully, line gunpowder, bio-warfare, and mass cavalry.

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1 point

Silk Road Merchant:

Merchants liked the Mongols because it gave them a higher status. In China, merchants were considered low-class, but under the Mongols, merchants were more valuable because the Mongols were nomadic people. They helped merchants who were in the business of long-distance trade because they could trade further than regular merchants. During their travels, they could rest and secure supplies through a postal-station system that the Mongols had established.

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1 point

Nasir al-Din al-Tusi believed the Mongols were civilized because he was well respected among the Mongols because he was a scientist and protected by them.

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1 point

Mongol Warrior: the mongols had the best military in the world at the time of their empire

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1 point

She had ensured that her sons received proper training and the skills in combat and administration necessary to rule empires. Sorghaghtani Beki

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1 point

The mongol army was organized into 10,000 people units, 1,000 people units, 100 people units, and 10 people units to effectively control troops.

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1 point

As a Confucian Educator, the Mongols seemed to have held a high respect for education, with their leader even invited famous educators to the court.

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1 point

Known for her wisdom, sage advice, and virtuous qualities as the mother of Genghis Khan, she kept peace within her family and supported her son's efforts to conquer and unite the nomadic peoples of the Inner Asian steppes.

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1 point

Mongol Warrior: the mongol empire was the best empire in the world because the leaders were very smart and strong

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connor_s(17) Disputed
1 point

How is slaughtering innocent bystanders of a conflict they were not even a part of prove your leaders to be "smart and strong"?

Side: UNCIVILIZED
1 point

As a Mongolian Horse I can say that the Mongols WERE civilized as they respected all horses and treated them well.

Side: CIVILIZED
1 point

As a Military Historian, they were not very different from other brutal conquerors of their time. They treated their soldiers well and were very systematic with their warriors and battle.

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1 point

Rashid al-Din

The Mongols helped me to reach a great status in life. As a medical professional, I made lots of money working for the king.

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1 point

Although she herself was illiterate, she gave them an education for her kids so they can talk and be more advanced Sorghaghtani Beki

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1 point

Nasir al-Din al-Tusi was in charge of the ministry of religious bequests, and he enjoyed the fact that the Mongols were religiously tolerant

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1 point

Mother:

Hoelun represented an intelligent, strong female figure and likely influenced Genghis Khan's policies, which allowed royal women to actively participate in the affairs of the empire. Helped give women a larger role in Mongolian society.

Side: CIVILIZED
1 point

Mongol Warrior: the mongol military was very advanced because of the weaponry, the very smart strategies of the military leaders, and the weak opponents that were fought

Side: CIVILIZED
LizzieR(10) Disputed
1 point

yes they had great military strategy, but how were they an advanced group of people if they were nomadic?

Side: UNCIVILIZED
brandonc(11) Clarified
1 point

They used the scientists and smarter people from conquered civilizations to advance their technology forward

Side: CIVILIZED
KyleF(10) Disputed
1 point

Weren't these weapons and strategies used to commit uncivilized acts such as mass murder?

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1 point

They were generally expected to drive the large wagons, so essential for these nomadic tribes, on which the family placed all their tents, dwellings, and household goods which showed they had a lot of power in the home Sorghaghtani Beki

Side: CIVILIZED
mplace(10) Disputed
1 point

But doesn't the Mongols being nomadic mean that they leave the land and don't have a legacy? As they left the land, they didn't leave pieces of art or architecture that other groups would leave for a legacy to be created.

Side: UNCIVILIZED
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Genghis Khan- As being the "khan" or leader of the Mongols, I have certain ethnic and moral beliefs I wish to see in my people and civilians. Personal loyalty is the biggest moral value I like to see in my people, and I am not very biased when it comes to obtaining power, as I sometimes will elect non-family members into the royal office, if I see fit. I believe in very egalitarian views, which is quite ironic, considering I am also a powerful fighter and warrior.

Side: CIVILIZED
1 point

Rashid al-Din

The Mongols helped me used advanced medicines to heal the king.

Side: CIVILIZED
NoahHof(10) Clarified
1 point

What medicines that the Mongols helped you with helped heal the king?

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1 point

They are a big part of history and their conquering allowed for increased trade and cultural spreading nd connection in Afroeurasia.

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1 point

Nasir al-Din al-Tusi believes the Mongols were Civilized because he left his own people to join the Mongols and work for them.

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Trey-W(10) Clarified
1 point

How does joining the mongols show that they're civilized? Maybe you wanted to join them because they were strong warriors.

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1 point

Mother:

While Hoelun was known for her role as a mother and caretaker, she was also an outspoken and active participant in family affairs. For example, when the shaman Teb Tenggeri attempted to foment strife and turn Genghis Khan against his brother Qasar, his plan failed because of the intervention of Hoelun.

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1 point

I, Hulagu Khan, was effective with my battle strategies during my conquest and I was able to conquer cities that refused to surrender, despite my low number of warriors.

Side: CIVILIZED
1 point

Xu Heng taught Zhu’s teachings to the Mongols, which stated that people needed to listen to a spiritual form of Confucianism.

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1 point

Rashid al-Din

The Mongols es=nforced strict laws that prevented criminals from acting how they wanted. I was killed for being suspected of poisoning the king.

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Ethan_R(8) Clarified
1 point

What kind of laws were enforced and what was the severity of the punishments?

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1 point

And finally, as a Horse, I can say the Mongols were civilized as we had the most mobile and effective armies in the world. Horses are much faster than foot soldiers, and we make our enemies run in fear as our hooves crush and destroy other nation's weak and ineffective armies. Along with that, we used more advanced weaponry, and can easily respond to all of our frontiers, route our enemies, and conquer as much as we did.

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irentmeester(11) Clarified
1 point

Didn't this wear down and kill the horses? Having such intense pressure and performance expectations for these for couldn't be healthy as it was barely physically possible.

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1 point

Their community was very organized with set rules and expectations for the men to become good fighters. Men trained until they were 20 and then they fought until 60, living most of their lives as soldiers

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11 points

The Mongolians, while their Empire was large, was very NOT unified. For example, the moment Genghis Khan died, a succession crisis/power vacuum occurred and the Mongol Empire split into 4 Khanates, effectively ending the Empire as it lacked administration and power structure to support its continued existence. A lack of administration helps verify how uncivilized it was.

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5 points

They engaged in biological warfare by spreading the black plague, which involved catapulting diseased bodies into villages and markets. This was gross and a horrible thing to do to the memory of that person and to the people of the towns.

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4 points

They used dangerous weapons to hurt foreign territories and gain more power, to be a dominating and supreme global power. For example, they were proficient with the short bow and corrupted captured civilians to give them improved siege weapons, which were highly destructive. A siege weapon they used often was the cannon.

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4 points

As Ibn al-Athir I would like to support this argument because I am Muslim, and wanted divine protection against the Mongol threat since I believed they were effective invaders and very destructive. I have witnessed the Mongols giving no mercy to people who would resisted their orders

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Esha_A(15) Clarified
3 points

What did the Mongols do that you felt was destructive, or what were some of their tactics that made them effective invaders?

Side: CIVILIZED
Jakzegger(19) Disputed
2 points

They were effective not dangerous. In order to conquer, blood had to be shed, and those that stood in the way of the Mongols would be beaten. A civilized empire knows strategy and how to conquer, civilized empires also are not weak, and they will not hold back. Civilized Empires had dangerous and more effective weaponry than their counterparts.

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4 points

As Pope Innocent IV, the Mongols threatened my religion when my negotiations failed to keep them from Christianity. I tried to form an alliance with multiple countries to protect my people, but the negotiations fell through.

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3 points

The mongols themselves never left a large cultural imprint on history. They never showed evidence of a new language, a new religion, or any lasting civilization (example: Abbasid Caliphate)

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2 points

The mongols would rip out the unborn babies out of women’s wounds, they would use their bodies as shields

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2 points

in total, the Mongols destroyed 10% of the population at the time.

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2 points

Gabriele de Mussis had a "pile of bodies" that he would use to siege the cities with raining corpses.

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2 points

As the caliph of Baghdad, the Mongols offered sympathy to those who surrendered, but when about 3,000 of my troops and the rest of the population offered themselves unarmed, they were still slaughtered. In the end they killed somewhere from 800,000 to 1 million of my people

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brandonc(11) Clarified
1 point

Why did they kill your troops even when you were unarmed?

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I, Hulagu Khan, destoryed culture in Baghdad when I decimated their city when they refused to surrender. I burned down their libraries and erased their culture off the face of the Earth.

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Maggie_M(11) Clarified
1 point

Did they save the best artisans of the city and transport them to other areas to help with architecture?

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Mongols slaughtered civilians for choices their leaders made (people paid the price for the leader's arrogance)

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NickyG(10) Disputed
1 point

I don't think this approves or disapproves of the argument of whether the Mongols were civilized or uncivilized because there had to be some sort of honorary/respect that the people tried to have for the leader. I think the people that disrespect Genghis Khan are arrogant.

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The Mongols used psychological warfare to terrify their enemies

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Mongols killed citizens and brunt down the towns of those who refused to surrender to them.

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1 point

The Mongols sieged a city in which they launched Plagued dead bodies into the city walls trapping the inhabitants with raining corpses.

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one reason that they were uncivilized is because they used their dead soldiers to spread the plague

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The Persians were continually raided by the Mongols. They were not able to get their population back to were it was before since towns were attacked multiple times.

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Burned the city of Baghdad to the ground, which was a large cultural hub and education center, and they didn't even bother to save the important documents and papers.

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Spread the plague, catapulted diseases cadavers into busy markets and cities

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The warriors of the mongol army were young and illiterate. Literacy and writing is a feature of civilizations, so illiteracy shows they're not civilized

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They killed 40 million people which was 10% of the worlds population at the time

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The Mongols ahd killed my whole empire adn, Lu Xiufu was my advisor, was my only hope consideredign how I was onyl a young boy.

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ClaudiaS(14) Clarified
1 point

Which of the warfares of the Mongosl was the most violent adn most develstatign to both an empire and the population?

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The Mongols used plagued dead bodies to posion the water source of the city to keep the inhabitants from survivng.

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Helped to spread the Bubonic Plaque through conquest and trade to other parts of the world where it would wipe out populations.

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Up to 40 million people were killed across Eurasia during his descendants' conquest. That was 10 percent of the world's population killed, not including the plague.

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Used new weapons (included gunpowder and cannons, short bow) that some of their enemies had never even heard of and had no change of standing against

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They would catapult dead infected bodies over the walls of their enemies, thus spreading the black plague.

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They used pyscological warfare to strike fear into their victums and show their dominence. For example, leaving skulls and bones at the sight of the their battles.

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The Mongols helped spread the plague. For example, they spread it throughout Europe or while they conquered as well as through trade routes through people like merchants or missionaries.

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The Mongols used plauged soldiers to siege the city to take over the city if not directly by the soldiers they would spread the plague via themselves eventually killing the whole city.

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The Mongols helped spread the Black Death, contributing to the major loss of life and impact it had on civilizations. When the Mongols noticed what was happening, they threw the bodies of the infected over enemy walls.

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As Mongols began to expand, they began to spread the bubonic plague, both inadvertently and on purpose, which decimated the European population and destroyed their ways of life.

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Destroyed culture for example at the battle of baghdad where they destroyed both culture and also things like books

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Mongols did not leave behind architecture influence due to them being a nomadic group that focused on conquering and moving often to conquer more.

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Killed a lot of people ex,) battle of baghdad killed over 200,00 people

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They raided villages and destroyed them with fire and other weapons. They also stole a lot from the people. And left them in total devastation.

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1 point

Ghengis Khan used intense policies to train the soldiers. For example, if one man deserted his unit, they were all slaughtered.

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1 point

Marco Polo spent more than two decades in the service of Kublai Khan, one of the greatest rulers in history who reigned over Mongolia for 34 years. Meaning Marco Polo supported his every move; the uncivilized & civilized ones.

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1 point

The Mongols also launched plague bodies into cities, unrestricted biochemical warfare.

Side: UNCIVILIZED
1 point

The Mongol leader, Genghis Khan, and his followers liked killing entire families.

Side: UNCIVILIZED
1 point

They helped spread the bubonic plague by catapulting diseased bodies into enemy empires.

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1 point

Annihilated those who refused to surrender they wanted to feel in power and people scare them and used psychological warfare to terrify their enemies left bones behind.

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2 points

I woudl like to support this argumetn becuase I am Zhao Bao and I was the brother of the leader of the Song capital who surrendered to Bayan’s Mongols in Hangzhou and was able to escape to south China to help leaders like Yang Liangjie. So the mongols ahd made by father suuredner or else he woudl be punished.

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1 point

Uncivilized characteristics include the quick spread of diseases throughout the region.

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ClaudiaS(14) Clarified
1 point

What is an exmaple of a way they spread diseases like the black death?

Side: CIVILIZED
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Annihilated Baghdad (culture capital) and destroyed many libraries, hospitals, palaces, and irrigation canals

Side: UNCIVILIZED
1 point

I was the ruler of the Song Dynasty and they desroyed my empire hence then leaving me empire conqured.

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The Mongols spread the plague by catapulting infected bodies right into the middle of cities and near civilizations.

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Used savage war tactics such as biological warfare, psychological, and a tactic called surprise and craft. These were ruthless methods, and often hurt many innocent civilians.

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The Mongols did not know how to manage funds regarding public works projects, they ran out of money while extending the Grand Canal

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Spread the plague into opposing cities in order to gain an advantage during war.

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Helped spread the Plague because they conquered it and they are not the cleanest and they would travel a lot

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Had a barbarian stereotype meaning unable to reason properly and child-like

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Cruel actions (ripping babies from mother’s wombs, prisoners as human shields or moat fillers)

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If one warrior in a unit deserted, the entire unit would be massacred by another unit. The mongols literally killed each other.

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If my father the prior Song Dynsaty ruler did not surredner, then my brothers and I would have been killed with him. I agree with this notion becuase they didn't jsut punish you but then punished all those associated with you.

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They used physological warfare by leaving reminders behind in the from of dead bodies, skulls, and bones. This is a horrible site and unfair to the dead.

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The Mongols would slaughter thousands of civilians if a city they sieged was too resistant, a total disregard to human life or respect.

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Mongols would would slaughter entire towns in very harsh ways.

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Much of the land they the conquered was not used or was left destroyed and wasn't used to their advantage.

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The Mongols treated conquered people who did not surrender very cruelly, often times killing them

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I did not like the Mongols because they had made my dad surrender but luckily I had managed to escape, I also did not like them because they conquered the dynasty as I was trying it (my Song Dynasty was conquered by Kulai Khan) If he did not surrender then we woudl ahve all died

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empire did not last and only lasted 25 years which is not long time

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Their military conquests across Asia and Europe killed millions of people.

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The Mongols killed innocent civilians, Mongols also killed over 200,000 people in Baghdad.

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The Mongols desecrated the dead. If they had the plague, the bodies would be used as a biological weapon. Others would be used to fill moats in battles.

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Mongol conquest on Kievan Rus; left in Dark Ages and when the renaissance spread

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Their empire was not long lasting and did not leave a big impact.

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Many Mongolian warriors were illiterate at young ages, showing the society did not teach written language to some.

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If one man deserted from their unit in the military, their whole unit was slaughtered

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Many fights broke about who should be the next khan after Ogodei khan died while the Mongols were waging war in central Europe, which caused the collapse of the empire

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In the mongol conquests they killed millions of people and left hundreds of cities in complete ruins

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Rollie_T(10) Clarified
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If the mongols were conquering land would they keep some cities and some people in inhabit the cities? Othewise it would just be empty, unprotected, Useless land.

Side: CIVILIZED
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Mongols were very barbaric and caused mass destructive; they were likely responsible for the Black death

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HELPED SPREAD THE PLAGUE (Kublai Khan) they helped transmit fleas through the bubonic plague, also termed Back Death, and this killed many individuals.

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The Mongols punished civilians for decisions their leaders made.

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Russia was helped by Mongols, but only after being ruined.

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Gabriele de Mussis lead soldiers to used plauged rats to spread the disease into the city of Kaffa.

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As the caliph of Baghdad, the mongols attacked and looted (effectively destroying) my great city

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As Pope Innocent IV, the Mongols were uncivilized. The Mongols threatened Christianity by sitting refusing to be baptized under the faith of Christianity.

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Prince Mstislav III of Kiev was killed by the Mongols during the battle against the Russian when pushing for conquest in Russia.

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I am Muhammad II, sultan of Khwarazm, and I believe that the Mongol empire was uncivilized. They came into my city, killed many of my soldier, and even though my army defeated theirs, they still left my city in shambles.

Side: UNCIVILIZED
SLundeen(10) Clarified
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Did your city refuse to surrender or rebel after surrendering to the Mongols?

Side: CIVILIZED
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Mongols in the Battle of Kalka River killed 20,000 out of 30,000 Russian soldiers and Prince Mstislav III of Kiev's soldiers.

Side: UNCIVILIZED
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As Alauddin Khalji, a rival competitor for land, he viewed the Mongols as uncivilized by not showing any mercy towards their enemies.

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AnthonyH(8) Clarified
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Was it Alauddin Khalji or the Mongols who did not show any mercy to their enemies?

Side: CIVILIZED
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As Gabriele de Mussis I lead is plauged soldiers into the city of Kaffa to seige the city for extra "power" from the plague.

Side: UNCIVILIZED
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As Pope Innocent IV, the Mongols were uncivilized because they captured the leader of my crusade to fight against them. I sent the crusade to defend Christianity from the Mongols that threatened it and the Pope's power.

Side: UNCIVILIZED
Miriam_H(10) Clarified
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Mongols had religious tolerance, so how did they threaten Christianity?

Side: CIVILIZED

The Mongols sowed my sons and I (caliph) into carpets to be trampled to death by their horses

Side: UNCIVILIZED
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They spread the plague which caused many people in my country to die, and they slaughtered men,women, and children of my kingdom.

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Prince Mstislav III of Kiev's army was weakened by the Mongols battle and lost most of its soldiers as well as a military power that they once had.

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The great city of Baghdad was burned, in which I planned to conquer.

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They destroyed my city and I while I was the spiritual leader of all of Islam

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As Ibn al-Athir and a witness to Mongol invasions It was hard for me to write about this event since it was terribly horrific. I would call it the “death-blow of Muslims” due to their harsh and extreme ways of killing innocent lives in inhumane ways so they could conquer.

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The aftermath of the battle was terrible. We had very few resources, they destroyed our infrastructure, such as irrigation systems and canals, and our enviroment was terrible. A wall was built around the city in order to repair it in peace.

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As I conquered previous Mongol land, I found remnants of burnt towns, skulls of the dead, and decomposing bodies of fallen soldiers who did not deserve the fate and brutality that they were met with while fighting Khan and his soldiers.

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When I, Hulagu Khan, destroyed Baghdad and its Muslim culture, Berke Khan, another Great Khan, punished me for my actions by launching a civil war. Mongols killed each other like savages

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Hojo Tokimune, Japanese Shogun - Refused the money requested by the Mongols and the Mongols sent multiple invasions into Japan and all of them ending in an upset for the Mongols

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They were swift with their conquering and they were in control of more land in 25 years than what the Romans conquered in 400 years. Along the way, they killed 2/3 of the people in China because of rebellion and villages not surrendering.

Side: UNCIVILIZED