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A person on this site compared fat children to abuse, but killing viable children is ok!
You simply can not make this stuff up. These Progressives, Liberals, Leftwing hypocrites, whatever you want to call them are either dsyfunctionally brain impaired, or purely self consumed evil.
We see their hypocrisy with every debate they create. Their priorities are fixated on things such as parents who allow their kids to eat too much, or the food industry trying to sell products which might cause people to gain wait over their lifetimes, and maybe only live to 70 instead of 80 years of age.
But when it comes to their Leftwing political parties (Democrat, Green Party, etc. etc.), they say NOTHING against the politicians they elect, who are in bed with the abortion trade and Feminist groups, all because of the money given from these groups.
So do you see where their priorities lie? Killing viable special needs babies for merely being diverse, before even given a chance to enjoy life, before maybe competing in the Special Olympics, etc., is ok, but maybe feeding your child too much, or selling food products that might make you overweight and die 70 years down the road, is BAD BAD BAD!
Three words.............................HYPOCRITICAL INHUMAN FOOLS!
These Liberals are so passionate about issues of political correctness, but when it comes to truly important issues, such as premeditated support of killing innocent vialbe babies for any reason up to birth, is not important enough to ever mention.
You will NEVER read a debate from any of them concerning this true inhumanity to our most innocent viable children.
The title of that debate is pointing out the possible harm to children from over eating, either by neglect or abuse.
This speaks exacty to my entire debate where soo called compassionate Liberals care about ur children, while at the same time supporting the killing our children.
My debate is speaking to the total hypocritical so called caring for our children when it comes to their getting overwieght from abuse, or neglect, or whatever, but these phonies could not care less if our viable children are being killed.
Which is worse? Enjoying life by eating anything you want, and then maybe dying a few years earlier, or being killed when you are just starting life.
If you can't grasp what this debate is all about, then WOW!
It was quite clear, not only from my comments but someone else's, that you were absolutely not clear in this debate.
Enjoying life by eating anything you want, and then maybe dying a few years earlier, or being killed when you are just starting life.
The point of the debate you referenced is not children enjoying life by eating anything they want, it's about the responsibility of the parent to guide their child and the potential for abuse by the parent to the child for neglecting them and their health. Do you not agree with that premise or are you only concerned about the child in the womb? It seems to me that if you are going to be bringing up concern for the unborn over the decisions of the mother, you could do it while agreeing that there needs to be care after birth. Most people who argue for abortion are really mainly ok with it only during the first trimester, I doubt many of them are ok with killing one for a "just because" reason. How would you go about forcing a woman to give birth?
WOW! That's all I can say is WOW! You CAN NOT BE THAT DENSE CAN YOU?
The other person who thought I was not clear, had the character to admit his error concerning my debate, and corrected himself.
You on the other hand, doubled down on knee jerk insults of any Conservative who dares shine a light on the Left's inhumanity.
Let me say it really really slow so even you might grasp the entire point.
I completely understand the point of the other debate.
Yes, the other debate meant what you said it meant.
My debate was speaking to the Left's supposed concerns for
our children's nutritional well being, while supporting the killing of viable children with No Restriction late term abortions.
The lack of priorities when it comes to our children is mind blowing.
The Left is so concerned over parent's treatment of their children when it comes to good nutritional habits, etc., but when it comes to parents actually killing viable late term babies, the Left has no problem whatsoever because they never say word one against it.
Never is there a debate speaking to their concerns over no restriction late term abortions.
Is that clear enough for you? If not, it's ignore time.
You spew insults like a panicked octopus spews ink. Mint_Tea was being perfectly respectable in her disagreement and yet you resort to ad hominem. It's the knee jerk response of an idiot.
Are you not tired of typing the same tired old rhetoric you always do? Do you not have any other argument? It's boring and I already refuted it once. Of course you avoided the conclusion.
You've never refuted anything. There is absolutely no question that the Democrat Party and Left support killing viable late term babies for any reason. To deny it makes you a total waste of time.
Any insults from me are a result from past insults from those I debate.
If I bore you when showing your inhumanity, please ignore my debates. The truth is that I shine a light on the phoney so called compassion and tolerance from the Left for those who can't help themselves, and you don't like how it feels.
I will always speak to the inhumanity of even No Restriction abortions because there is no more important issue in our lifetimes.
Yes, I did. You chose not to answer the analogy because doing so would reveal the folly of your position.
If I bore you when showing your inhumanity, please ignore my debates. The truth is that I shine a light on the phoney so called compassion and tolerance from the Left for those who can't help themselves, and you don't like how it feels.
I don't like how it feels? I would have to believe your held a rational, well thought out position in order for me to respect your opinion before I could feel anything towards your rhetoric. I don't.
You want to place the right to life of an unborn child above the bodily integrity rights of the woman involved. Nobody has the right to life at the expense of somebody else's rights, this is what you do not understand. Why should we afford special rights to unborn children?
I'll put the analogy here again and see if you avoid addressing it again.
If I require a kidney and there are no donors available, should the state be able to legislate that somebody must give me one against there wishes? It won't kill them, they might have to change their diet slightly to accommodate, but I have a right to life and that takes precedence over their bodily rights.
MOST OF THOSE VIABLE UNBORN BABIES ARE KILLED FOR MERELY BEING INCONVIENENCES.
They do not need their mother's organs yet you spew the same hogwash! Life of mother abortions are already allowed and accepted.
If the Left wants to spell out exactly what so called "health of mother" issues should be exceptions, they can craft a bill to speak to these, but they will never do so.
They want No Restriction abortions for any reason up to birth, and fools will use the same old deceptive rhetoric as you just did.
The Democrat Party is tied to the feminsit pro abortion lobby and will never compromise with GOP on late term abortions.
MOST OF THOSE VIABLE UNBORN BABIES ARE KILLED FOR MERELY BEING INCONVIENENCES.
They do not need their mother's organs yet you spew the same hogwash! Life of mother abortions are already allowed and accepted.
I don't think you quite get the concept of an analogy, it's not meant to be taken literally. The point was to highlight the unethical nature of a state enforcing the right of an individuals life over anothers bodily rights. You haven't answered whether you feel this is ethical.
They want No Restriction abortions for any reason up to birth, and fools will use the same old deceptive rhetoric as you just did.
What's deceptive about it?
The Democrat Party is tied to the feminsit pro abortion lobby and will never compromise with GOP on late term abortions.
I'm not interested in your politics. I'm talking fundamental ethics.
You waste your own time by not addressing the question i put forward, yet again.
Of course I do not believe that a human life is expendable unless the life of the mother is at risk.
THE LIFE!
THE LIFE!
THE LIFE OF THE MOTHER!
Inconvienence or health issues that are not life threatening are a far cry from an exucse for killing an innocent human being.
I'm not interested in politics either. I'm interested in humanity.
There are TWO LIVES INVOLVED. No longer just the mother's. She chose to have unprotected sex and created a human life. She is now liable, as is all of society, to do all in her power to protect that life from harm.
Of course I do not believe that a human life is expendable unless the life of the mother is at risk.
What if the woman was raped?
THE LIFE!
THE LIFE!
THE LIFE OF THE MOTHER!
Your shrill tautology is unbecoming.
Inconvienence or health issues that are not life threatening are a far cry from an exucse for killing an innocent human being.
It's not quite the same though is it? If you take the life of a person in normal circumstances you may have caused that individual to suffer along with any friends or family they may have had who now have to deal with the loss of that person. An unborn child would not cause the same level of suffering and cannot feel pain until 27 weeks, so it's not comparable in that sense.
I think you need to ask yourself what is it that's morally wrong about taking a human life. Is it just the removal of that persons experience from reality, or is the level of suffering caused as a result of their passing? The thing is, neither are applicable in the case of an unborn child.
She chose to have unprotected sex and created a human life. She is now liable, as is all of society, to do all in her power to protect that life from harm.
Firstly, it wasn't necessarily a choice. Secondly why should somebody receive the sentence of a life long commitment for making a mistake? Do you think the child will have a good life being brought up by a mother who did not want it?
I've wasted enough time with a deceptive person. I have been constantly talking about no restriction abortions of viable babies up to birth that do feel pain, but as always you deceive and change the subject.
We have millions of unwanted children, foster children, etc. and your answer is to kill them.
I've wasted enough time with a deceptive person. I have been constantly talking about no restriction abortions of viable babies up to birth that do feel pain, but as always you deceive and change the subject.
No, you want no abortions except for in situations where the mothers life is at risk, it is you who are being deceitful.
We have millions of unwanted children, foster children, etc. and your answer is to kill them.
Don't straw man me. It's an entirely different situation with an unborn child for the reasons I have already explained to you. Your solution seems to be to add to those numbers of unwanted children. Good idea.
Interesting, since all I said about your title was that it was absolutely not clear. Now you are going on with your usual actions of can't-defend-so-insult. If you had the good graces to even see that your title and subsequent argument could be very misleading than I would think it was just a mistake, but the fact that YOU doubled down (as you said) makes me think you are being intentionally misleading.
Lol, "say it really slow", my reading speed is the same thank you very much.
I would recommend you don't speak for all Left because you don't even know what half of them want judging by your inability to read what their responses to you are.
It's plenty clear, ignore away. I did what I set out to do and pointed out your very misleading, dare I say...deceitful...title.
You do what you have done toward my debates 100% of the time, which is never agree but rather find fault with anything i have said.
It is proven fact that the vast majority of those who identify as Liberals, vote for the Democrat Party, thereby supporting No Restriction abortions.
Deny and deceive all you want. We both know the truth but only you lack the charcter to admit it because your extreme pro abortion support, when voting for Democrats, says everything about your humanity or lack there of.
I've actually agreed with you multiple times, but I don't always 100% of it so you just close your eyes to the rest. I've fully agreed that we need to teach morals in this country again, but, and yes there is a but because this is not going to be the only answer, we need to do more. This world is not just one way or the other like you want it to be, there is SO much in between, you can try to deny that all you want but it is obvious to most everyone else.
What of your protection of the woman's right? How do you plan to force her to have this child? Chain her up? Make sure she doesn't go get a back ally abortion or worse, dump the child in the garbage? What are you plans to try to prevent that when you force women to either have a baby they don't want or take drastic, dangerous measures to abort the child themselves? How do you plan on supporting them and making sure that child isn't abused because it wasn't wanted for one reason or another? Are you ok with more taxes to help a parent or parents raise a child they couldn't have cared for to begin with?
Time to ignore your absolute ludcirous excuses for purposely killing innocent viable human beings.
I want you to repeat your litany of excuses for the person killing the viable baby, and then make those same exact excuses for killing a one month old baby.
Ask me how are we going to force her not to kill that one month old baby. Ask me how we can prevent her from taking that one month old baby down a back alley to have it killed, or throw it in the dumpster.
Ask me how we are going to make sure the one month old is not abused because it is no longer wanted.
Are you ok with paying higher taxes to support that one month old after she abandons it.
You know what? I have wasted enoug time debating someone who has lost all conscience.
Typical, you have no answers so you just resort to mocking and accusing. Those are all concerns that anyone with even half a brain would have if you got your way and made abortion illegal, you just refuse to acknowledge it because you don't care. Ignore away.