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Honestly, it depends. For example if both the mother and child will most likely die then I agree abortion is good in that instance however if you had sex with someone and you want an abortion just cause of your mistake! then it shouldn't be right that's just being selfish.
If you were born to a mother who didn't want you do you really want to live anyway? That's only a little question I have but my real thing is that abortion should be legalized at least if the mother was raped or she is at risk if dying. At least that.
If you mean making pro-evil... oh.... sorry... pro-choice peoples feel guilty about supporting evil, then yes, pro-lifers are controversial when discussing the act of doing evil.
Oh, so you mean pro-lifers making a rational argument that makes pro-evil.... oh... sorry... it happened again.... pro-choice peoples feel guilty about things?
No. That is not what I meant. First of all I don't think you make anyone feel guilty, just annoyed that anyone can be so narrow-minded.
Who says I'm narrow-minded? Usually the person who calls that out first is the person who is actually narrow-minded.
Second of all, an argument that is made to make someone else feel guilty is never rational.
This is clearly a logical fallacy. You should take some speech classes. They tell you to use logic and emotion to appeal to your audience. Philosophy does the same thing all the time in regards to morality. Maybe you should refine that argument a bit?
They tell you to use logic and emotion to appeal to your audience. Philosophy does the same thing all the time in regards to morality. Maybe you should refine that argument a bit?
No thanks, I'm good. They might tell you to use logic an emotion, but that doesn't make it rational.
This is clearly a logical fallacy. You should take some speech classes. They tell you to use logic and emotion to appeal to your audience. Philosophy does the same thing all the time in regards to morality. Maybe you should refine that argument a bit?
Man, there goes all my training. I could have sworn appeal to emotion was a fallacy. Dang it, I need to retake a logic class.
Appeal to emotion is a logical fallacy in cases in which emotion is irrelevant. Emotion is not pointless when referring to morality. For example, if one's argument refers to emotional states of babies, then the use of emotion is not a logical fallacy. Philosophical ethicists have long accepted the use of emotion to determine if something is moral. Refer to John Stuart Mill, as a prime example. So yes, you do need to take a logic class; or at least take an upper level logic class, which differentiates when certain things are appropriate.
Using a guilt trip on people is a valid appeal to emotion? You aren't discussing the emotions of babies you were saying that causing an emotional response was valid logic.
You don't understand the argument. My argument was based in emotion being that which comes about with immorality. So yes, a guilt trip in this sense is a valid use of emotion.
Belittling someone until they feel bad based on your view of the world is exactly what appeal to emotion is trying to prevent. Making someone feel bad does not mean your argument is logical.
I'm just going to stop here and tell you to take another logic class. I've already told you that guilt is tied to immorality. Thus, eliciting guilt is a sign of immorality being present. Hence, my argument is very much logical. Until you can understand that emotion and morality are tied together, and that an appeal to emotion displays empirically the fact that something is immoral, then we are done.
Your argument is that it is not an appeal to emotion because you think you are moral. It doesn't get any more fallacious than that. Where does it say that using morality is not an appeal to emotion?
Your argument is that it is not an appeal to emotion because you think you are moral.
You are definitely not a philosopher. When did I say this? My argument is that guilt comes about from doing evil. If one has guilt, then one has done evil. She has felt guilt. Thus, she has done evil. My argument is not that I can use an appeal to emotion because I am right. My argument is that my appeal to emotion displays the fact that it is immoral. Please take a philosophy class.
The last thing the world needs is another teen mom who will continue having kids unable to support them. Young mothers clubbing it up on the weekend whilst handing them over to their mothers to take care of. Maybe a woman knows she wouldn't be a good mother may have anger issues, drug problems. I have an Aunt who was strong enough to raise her child, a product of rape, with the same amount of love as her other children. Thats her, thats one choice, but everyone is different I come from a line of strong women but can imagine how it would be for those who don't.
um excuse me hunny im sorry im sixteen years old and 5 mnths pregnant i dnt have a parent let alone two to hand mi child off to and mi fiance is here for me im 100 percent against drugs alcohol and partying mainly bcuz i have been in tht life scene in the past and i beleive its very unhealthy my child is loved more than any one could guess i have supported myself for a very long time and so has my fiance for himself and if u wonder no he is not way older than me he is himself seventeen and we both planned our child and made sure we had the resources to provide for it so honestly it is not the age the makes the parent its the person cuz u can be fourty and go clubbing ignoring ur children ive seen it it is all in the choices u make as a person not the age u r i am also finishing school and have daycare planned out and friends tht have ben licensed in schooling who insist i alow them to care for my baby while im at school without my request like i said age has nothing to do with the factor of how good a parent u can be
I'm 21 and married, in no way am i judging your choice, I dont believe anywhere that I put all teenage mothers are like that. My opinon is that a child is something to wait to have. Of course not every woman is a good parent, regardless of age, but would them having a child younger have made it any better. Many young ladies look to a child as someone to love them unconditionally cause their parents aren't cutting it. Some women have that 'I will never let my child go like my parents did me' mentality. Then there are usually more established women that go 'I want to see the love of my partner and I grow into something beautiful and alive, a creation made together.' It's my opinion, assess but don't digress, this is about if abortion should be legal and I say yes.
Nope, because you're killing a human that doesn't deserved to be killed. Life is precious and you shouldn't be killing something that you and another person created.
No, I hate the idea of killing a living thing that never had to be killed just because of some one's promiscuous behaviour (with the exception of rape).
And even when it is rape as Srom said they could put the child up for adoption.
If it's your creation and sitll a part of your body then you own it. Don't give me this bullshit 'fetuses have feelings' crap, the only thing running through their mind is 'kick kick food food' *
Even still I don't like the idea of killing another living being because some one is addicted to sex and can't bear the consequences of there behaviour
NO '''LIFE IS PRECIOUS'' GOD IS THE GIVER OF LIFE'' EVEN THOUGH THEIR CAN BE ALL SORTS OF ARGUMENTS,IF IT IS NOT IN ACCORDANCE TO GODS WORD , OUT YOU ARE SIMPLY STEPPING WAY OUT OF LINE''WITH REASONING..
a child has a choice to live whether u can see its face or not in the wom at 18 days old the child has nerve endings and can feel its surroundings and knows its moms heartbeat it has a heartbeat all its own as well and at a few mnths it has cognitive ability rape is tragic scaring but do u think killing an innocent child from it would ever help u to cope with it bcuz truthfully it usually ends with the woman hating herself and feeling as if she is just as bad as the rapist the rapist gave her no choice and she gave her own baby no choice as well