I am for abortion. I am pro do whatever you please as long as you are doing the right thing. I feel like women are already so penalized by society as it is. If they feel like getting an abortion with the intention that it will be better for them then it should not matter. Why would we allow women to have children that they don’t want, can’t take care of in some instances, and won’t be able to just fully be there for. I also do not like how men are in charge of something that doesn’t even really involve them truly. This is a woman's body. Men are one of women’s biggest troubles. Why do they get the say so on whether or not a woman can do something with her body? Let’s just create a scenario. A woman goes to a party, a man rapes her, and she gets pregnant. She should be able to get an abortion if she wants because why should she continue to be reminded of such a traumatic experience. She didn’t want that baby, it was forced upon her. But to society she would be considered a whore who is going to hell, which is absurd. I feel like we should just have some better regulations when it comes to abortion but it should never be illegal because that is not going to ban it, it is just going to make women go and get unsafe abortions. There should be a reasonable time period for when a woman can get an abortion and we put abortion clinics in very safe environments so they won’t have the people who don’t know how to keep their opinions to themselves and go to the clinics with signs and horns to shame women who are trying to do what’s best for them. It is not like women are taking toddlers to these clinics and murdering them like everything envisions. It is a woman knowing that she will not be able to be the best mom to this baby and before having to give it up to child protective services, which is not in a very good spot as of right now, or have to just deal with it and give this child a terrible life that they did not ask for. Statistics show “In 2019, a study titled Maternal Suicide in Italy by Lega et al. was published in the journal Archives of Women’s Mental Health detailing suicide rates in Italian mothers. In the study, “maternal suicide” is defined as “women who died by suicide during pregnancy or within 1 year after giving birth, induced abortion or miscarriage.” The authors identified 67 cases of maternal suicide between 2006-2012, which corresponded with a maternal suicide ratio of 2.30/100,000 live births. Of the maternal suicides included in this study, the suicide rate of women who had abortions was more than double the suicide rate of women who gave birth.” That just shows that the abortion still effects the women. Women already have to deal with all the gruesome trials and tribulations that they have been bestowed at birth. Imagine you know that you can’t handle something and you know it is going to end horribly, so you don’t do it or you get rid of it and you have a big group of people judging you and telling you how your decision is going to send you to hell with a first class ticket. Crazy right?

I am pro choice because I feel like women should be able to decide what happens to their bodies. Abortion should be a choice women get to make when they cannot financially support a baby, their health is not where it should be, or if they were sexually assualted. Some people might say you could put your baby up for adoption or to foster care. Who would want to go through pregnancy and give up their child to a random family that may not support their baby properly? If a girl is raped should she be forced to keep her rapist's kid? Society should not get to say what is right and what is wrong when it comes to our bodies. I do not see the harm in abortion when you catch it early and get one in the first trimester. I understand that if you are in the the third trimester of pregnancy and your baby is close to being fully grown that it is not okay. In any other situation, I support abortion fully. Also, I am a seventeen year old girl and I know if I became pregnant right now it would ruin my future of trying to get a degree or even going to college. As a matter of fact, age is a huge factor in abortions. A study in 2014 states that 60% of women that got abortions were in their early 20’s according to the Guttmacher Institute. It’s hard for young women to be able to support another life when they are figuring out how to start theirs. All in all, I feel that their are many circumstances that women should be able to choose abortion if it is the best option for their life.

Though I’m not religious, nor do I pretend to be so, I understand where people may base their opinion of abortion on religion. With that being said, a religious opinion is invalid in the case of prohibiting an individual’s rights, especially in the United States. After withdrawing from Great Britain, who enforced specific religion and tyranny, the founding fathers established the Constitution. In the 1st amendment of this Constitution, it is stated that “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.” It has been evident since the early beginnings of the U.S. that separation of church and state would be put into place. With this separation of church and state, it would be difficult, and shouldn’t be possible, to pass a law outlawing something along the lines of such morality. On top of this, citizens in the United States are allotted the unenumerated right to privacy. If someone’s private choice is infringed upon by jail time or scrutiny, it could cause serious issues. The final point to be made is on the matter of the Citizenship clause. This is found in Section 1 of the 14 amendment and it reads,"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." If a child has yet to be born, and therefore yet to be naturalized, it is technically not subject to due process which was being argued in the original case of Roe v. Wade. The complete outlawing of abortion is shown to be difficult and improper on the basis of the Constitution.

My position on abortion is that it should be legal but also not encouraged in every case. The decision on abortion should be considerate of every situation, for instance rape, people unfit to be mothers, and people that could get killed or have long lasting effects. Although, abortion should not be legal in every case. If abortions were easy to get for everyone, people may take advantage of it. When a person decides to have sex there is always a chance of pregnancy and the risk should be considered. My brother got married at a young age and they were not in the best place to have a child but they never considered aborting it. They had the baby and worked to give her a better life and now they have two kids, a house, two cars, and their lives are thriving. They recognized that they made the choice to have sex and they knew they could make it work with a child, so they had her. In 2017, the United States had a total of 862,300 induced abortions and most birth controls prevent pregnancy 99% of the time. Abortions can be avoided and should be at all costs, even if they are needed in some situations. Although, access to abortions should be a basic healthcare availability to women because having a child is a lot of responsibility and anyone having one should be able to provide for them. Women have to have the babies so their health and well being should be considered at all times. In all, having a child is a big duty and if a pregnant woman can’t take that responsibility then it should not be pressured on them, but if they can then having the baby should be encouraged.

I believe that women should have the right to choose whether or not they would like to have an abortion. Making abortions illegal will not stop abortions it will just make them unsafe and many women may die as a result. On the WHO website under the topic of abortion they state, “Legal restrictions, as well as social and cultural beliefs linked to abortion, can make women reluctant to seek timely medical care in case of abortion-related complications, which further puts women’s health and well-being at risk.” There is also the matter of privacy. Women should not have to explain their reasoning to anybody and there should not be circumstances put to limit it. Not all women are part of the same religion so they should not be put through pregnancy because of another religion. It costs $5,000-$11,000 just to push the baby out and then you have to financially support that child until they are 18. Some women are not able to pay that and give the child a good life so that child may end up abused (mentally and/or physically). Babies can also put the mother's life in danger. In those cases its choosing between a baby going without a mother or the mother living and having another baby.

Site I used: https://adoptionnetwork.com/adoption-myths-facts/domestic-us-statistics/

I think that Abortion should not be as big of a deal as it is. There are a huge number of reasons why. Like, why is the government outlawing a medical procedure? That is what it is at its heart, a medical procedure. Christianity is a reason for personal belief against it, but religion should not be a reliable argument in law at any point. Like many things, I am in between, I don’t think that abortion should be completely banned, but I also don’t think it should be the main method of birth control, like it should be a later thing you try or it is an expensive procedure. Completely banning it is not the way to go, however. The argument can be made that you are killing a person, but in some cases it wouldn’t matter. Some people are raped, and will end up hating the baby, or they are in a horrible financial situation or broken homes, and won’t be able to care for the baby. The adoption process is not very good at all, and that sometimes is no better than the parent who hates or can’t care for the baby. Raising a child is a difficult and lengthy process, often lasting a lifetime, and children who don’t get what they need end up starving, or getting lost in a never-ending adoption process, or getting stuck in the jail system or debt. According to adoptionnetwork.com, only about half of children in the adoption system get adopted every year. My mother did not have the best childhood, her mom couldn’t care for her very often. She had to go from foster home to foster home to family to family to school to school and so much more. She had bad healthcare, bad relationships, and often people would be surprised at her childhood. She has told me that a few people and experiences were likely the only reason she got as well off as she did. If she took one wrong turn, she would have been in jail or debt and her life would have been miserable for as long as she lived, and she was very lucky. Not everyone is, which is why abortion should be legal, because some lives just aren’t worth living or being forced into.

I don't really care what women do with their bodies so I guess that means I'm pro choice. A fetus to me does not equate to a human in my mind so I cannot relate to those who see the fetus as a child until it is officially out of the woman's body developed. In Jane Roe's case, the child was one she could not afford to have as it was life threatening for her, therefore, instead of needing to have a child grow up in a terrible environment, it would be better to avoid having one at all. In some other cases, some cannot financially support a child, therefore having a child would only be troublesome for both the child's growth as well as the parent's well-being.

Abortion is a method or practice in which women who have unwanted fetuses, termenate their pregnancy. This method has been widely used across the country by many women. Although this method is highly known, it is a very controversial topic discussed by a variety of groups and/or individuals. Some believe the method to be cruel and unusual, whilst others see it as a convenient choice being offered to females who may not desire to go through with their pregnancies, for whatever reason.

In my opinion, abortion is a choice that should be made by the women or couple that were involved in the intercourse that created the fetus. The choice should not be made or debated by people who had no purpose in the making of the child. Firstly, these people are not aware of the experiences of the women/couple, nor do they understand the circumstances she/they are in. These circumstances/experiences can include low income, abuse, rape, or even religion/family beliefs. I am pro-choice due to the fact that there are so many factors that can go into a big decision such as this. I feel that people do not consider the factors or circumstances that go into this sensitive subject. Usually, significant/life changing choices such as this, include important reasons/concerns for the conclusion to have an abortion.

I believe you should do whatever you feel is best for you. I also feel women should be able to do what they want with their bodies. You never know the reasons behind someone's decisions, they may not be able to afford a baby, or they just are not ready to care for a child, or a variety of other reasons. Research shows that 75% of women who obtain abortions are low-income, with nearly half living below the federal poverty level. Almost 30% of women who get abortions stated that having a kid would interfere with their education or their job, and another 30% said they just simply were not mature enough to care for a child. Why should women have to have a child that they do not want or can not care for to the best of their ability? If abortions become illegal they will just become more unsafe and will not stop. Women should be able to do what they feel is in their best interest with their body and have no one throw their opinion into it.

Abortion should remain legal because, the government has no right to infringe on individual rights of the pregnant mother. It is an invasion of privacy and at the very least just plain rude to tell a woman what to do with her body. And to those who would argue the same of the baby growing inside of her, I say that that baby does not have rights. It has not been born yet so it cannot have rights as a citizen. It is still a part of the mother's body, so it's her rights that are at question here. It should be the woman’s choice on what she does with her body. No one person or governing body should tell her how to live her life. And if she can't get an abortion, there's no guarantee the child will be better off. If the mother can't abort, or find someone else to care for the child there's only one other option. Adoption and foster care. And both of these things are far from the saving grace that some think they are. A 2017 study states that 12 to 14 percent of adopted children in the United States between the ages of 8 and 18 are diagnosed with a mental health disorder each year, and adopted children are almost twice as likely as children brought up with their biological parents to suffer from mood disorders like anxiety, depression, and behavioral issues. One could argue that the baby would suffer more to live away from its biological family than if it had been aborted. This is why it should be up to the mother to decide what is best for her child. And her decision alone.

Women should have the right to make decisions for their own body. Pregnancy is not always a woman’s decision, and many different factors can lead to pregnancy. 65 out of 1,000 pregnancies are unintentional. More effective ways to lower abortion rate include providing better ways to help prevent pregnancy. This includes easier access to affordable birth control. Completely outlawing abortion would not stop it. It would just lead to unsafe methods of abortion. Of all abortions, approximately 45% are done unsafely. With stronger restrictions, this percentage will only rise. It is important to consider the factors that go into the decision to have an abortion. Raising a child is very expensive, and even considering adoption, there is a high price to deliver the baby that not everyone can afford. The average cost of giving birth to the baby can range from $5,000 to $11,000 in the United States. If complications lead to a necessary C-section, the delivery can cost up to 14,500. Some women are rape victims and mentally cannot take care of the baby that emerged from that traumatic event. Prior health issues also play a big part in the ability of a woman to have a baby. In some cases, delivering a baby can lead to death for the mother. In other cases, a woman is simply not ready to have a baby. Teen pregnancies become more common and it is important for these woman to continue their education. A teenagers body might not be able to handle the delivery. Some women lack a partner and are afraid to raise the baby with no support. All these factors must be considered before telling a woman what she can or can't do with her own body.

Personally, I believe that abortion should be available to all women who want it. I do understand that at some point a fetus becomes a baby, but I think people use the term too loosely when it comes to abortion. A lot of the time prolife people want to say a fetus is a baby or it is alive when there is a “heartbeat” when in fact it’s not even a heartbeat its electrical signals passing through the cell. In life, if someone’s heart stops, that does not mean that they are deceased. However, when someone’s brain activity stops, they are declared dead. So why are people saying the heartbeat matters? I do not see abortion as murder as the fetus does not develop signs of life until later in the pregnancy.

Abortion, I feel, should be treated as if its any other kind of health care. It should be treated with as much respect as going into your local pharmacy to get a flu shot. It's an understood fact that not EVERYONE gets a flu shot, but most of the time no one criticizes someone else for getting the shot. They respect that this is something the person wants to do for their body and they let them do so peacefully. If someone is unhappy with or does not trust the flu vaccine, they simply do not get one. Most people that don’t want it don’t try to push their opinion onto others.

Women face a lack of protection everyday, and taking away their abortion rights only makes life more dangerous for them.

I strongly believe that abortion should be left up to the woman contemplating having one, or already intending to have one. However, many people may argue on the side of "Women have abortions for selfish or frivolous reasons," according to ProChoice.org. I believe that women have abortions for many different reasons, but frivolous wouldn't be the word to describe these reasons. Owing to the fact, people or women in this case come from all walks of life. The reason for stating this is because some women may not want to bring another life into an already dreadful situation. Whether these dreadful situations come from health, or socioeconomic problems. As stated by ProChoice.org, "66% plan to have children when they are older, financially able to provide necessities for them..." In addition to this, it's in a way selfish to bring a child into the world knowing these factors are prevalent in one's life. In avoiding this, having an abortion typically provides the woman a sense of comfort and reassurance that they didn't bring a child into a situation that wasn't fit for a child. As stated by Corinne Rocca, PhD, MPH, even is it was difficult decision to make, majority of women who have had an abortion believe that it was the right decision for them, in the long run.

Women face a lack of protection everyday, and taking away their abortion rights only makes life more dangerous for them. Everyday women are raped, sexually assaulted, taken into sex trafficking, and more. Taking away a facility that would carefully take care of their abortion will only lead to more unsafe alternatives. The concept of abortion has always been around whether people like it or not. Granted, they were very unsafe and very secretive. Women already have to be so secretive when it comes to their menstruation cycles as if that is something to sexualize or make them feel bad about. Women are often embarrassed of basic human functions and they don’t want to be seen or treated any differently. Women are taught to always take precautions from men, whether it be to cover their drink, go with friends to places, never walk alone at night, always check their car when getting in, the list goes on and on. A woman wanting an abortion could be another case of her having to account for the actions of a man. Though abortions should be granted for women who physically need it, it should also be offered to women who just want it for their own best interests regarding their situation. It is HER own business not some random guy who’s screaming at her that she is a bad person while she’s going into the clinic. What that random guy doesn’t know is that she works 3 jobs, is in an abusive relationship, suffers from several mental illnesses and is not financially stable enough to bear a child and to care for it after roughly 10 months. You wouldn’t know this however as everyone’s privacy should be respected under the 9th amendment.

Oftentimes the people who claim to be “pro life” are people who bring their religion into the mix. Religion is great but in a nation where it was supposed to be based on freedom, its key is to be open minded for other people who may not have the same beliefs. I feel as if these people are so quick to assume the situations of the people that get abortions. They may think it's out of malicious intent or that they are simply being lazy or doing society a disservice. But I feel as if this all goes back to the right of privacy.

this was my statement from second block lol: I believe that abortion should be illegal to a certain extent. Abortion should be illegal after 28 weeks from conception. To begin, a fetus becomes viable after approximately 24 weeks of gestational age; viability means that a fetus has the ability to survive outside of the womb. According to the “Aid to Women Center,” it says that in the second trimester (13-24 weeks) “the fetus’s body is too large to be broken up by suction and will not pass through the suction tubing easily.” In a second trimester abortion, the cervix has to be dilated even more and can be very dangerous. To add, BCM Women’s Health says that, “Complications of clandestine abortions increase with gestational age.” After the fetus hits the viable gestational age, it not only becomes somewhat unethical, but it can be potentially dangerous to the carrier as well. Given certain circumstances such as rape, not being able to provide proper care for the baby, a hostile womb, or even PTSD from previous pregnancies, having abortions legal until 28 weeks is a long enough time to make the personal decision regarding abortions.

Ryan G.-

This is very uncomfortable for me. I absolutely hate talking about this. It is such an uncomfortable thing for me. Like I have no strong opinions on either side like it’s just a thing that people do and I’m no authority and I have no opinion. For a lot of people this is huge but to me at this moment in time I’m just in the middle/ I don’t care well. I do it’s a big thing but I don’t care in the sense that it has nothing to do with me therefore I have no real feelings. This type of stuff like the human body and what happens to it on a surgical, child, sexual side all of it makes me uncomfortable. Maybe it’s because I have no connection nor reason to be comfortable but this is the type of thing I avidly avoid because my opinion is neutral and I just don’t like talking about it. I love people and I don’t want to see them in pain therefore I’m neutral because this affects everyone at some point and it’s just a thing that happens and everyone has different opinions.

Against

Immoral

Goes against their religion

Murder, and the process of abortion espicially in a 2 month trimester is cruel

If it’s the 3rd trimester it’s terrible

For

Woman’s body is her own therefore her own decisions

Right to privacy

PTSD if raped and or sexual assualted the child is a daily reminder of it.

Foster System is broken due to parent using it mainly for money from the foster children so would be parents don’t want that for their if kids

Separation of church and state everyone has different religions

Even if banned it could harm way more women than imagined

Yes abortion should be legal because its women body they can do whatever they want with their body , also the population of human on earth is quiet big why we need more humans if we can not provide the good facilities to orphans which already living. Some person saying killing of life is not good thing yet we eat around 2 million animals every day . Thus a chicken have less life then a fetus ? also some are arguing that he/she if alive can became next Albert Einstein or Mother Teresa well he/she have more probability of becoming Hitler then Einstein due to harsh condition and lack of love .

I believe abortion should be legal. It is against the constitution for the federal government to infringe so severely onto the rights of individuals. As decided in Roe v. Wade, a ban on abortion would be an infringement of a person's privacy protected by the 14th Amendment's Due Process Clause. On a personal level, I feel as if it should not be in the government's power to control someone's healthcare decisions, but rather to provide accessible healthcare to everyone in need. There are many cases in which mothers would not be able to take care of a child, why should they be forced to carry a baby they have no intentions or ability to provide for? Maybe the war on abortion should be changed to a war to education people on such topics so if necessary, they are able to make well thought out and informed decisions.

If I really did define my position on abortion right now then tommorrow I would probably look at it like heresy. My opinion on it depends so greatly on whatever was just said that it’s almost disappointing. Obviously, parents shouldn’t legally be able to kill their baby. Right? Like when I baby is inside someone’s womb it’s the same baby that could come out the next day or-- if it had been borne before its due date-- the week prior. Its position outside of your body when you’re holding it versus one foot away inside your belly should not be the factor between it being a person versus a process that can be aborted. For this reason maybe it would be helpful to imagine the fetus as a baby. Take the fetus outside of the belly, conceptually, and think about when it would be logically okay to take a knife to it. I mean we’re allowed to take a kidney out of our bodies and cut it up and eat it, right? In fact forty-nine of the fifty states have no laws against cannibalism. But-- like-- you could consume your own epidermis, so why not some little blob of your own cells in the middle of your belly. Well you can’t cut up the living breathing child, but it would be pretty insane to state that you can’t cut up a blob of cells. So when do we allow it. Right. I feel like basing it off of some arbitrary heart-starts-beating or could-survive-without-motherly-nutrients bullshit is pretty stupid in a perfect world. In a perfect world we know all of these facts to a T, but none of them really get to the core of the issue. So like, you’ve got a fully functional, walking, talking, breathing… teething robot, right? It’s made of steel and its got a computer for a brain. Can you cut that thing up? Hell yeah, you can unscrew every bolt and writhe in its insides if you’d like. Now throw a sheet of human skin on top of it… still cool, right? Okay, then make its body identical to that of a human’s with lab grown cells’n’shit, but its got a computer brain. Still fine. But a brain is just a computer. It uses little electrical impulses to store and retrieve information. So you make a brain out of flesh and neurons and shit-- but it uses the same methods to function just under a different medium. See my point? That robot-- and I feel most people would agree (unless we’re talking can a robot derive consciousness from logical reason alone)-- would still be pretty okay to kill and, I guess, consume. Well, an abortion’s pretty similar. The robot would only be not okay to dice if it were an actual person who would experience said diceage. If it can’t then it’s the same exact thing as cutting up a ball of copper and silicone and lead and steel, just maybe a bit more intricately designed. I feel like it’s only reasonable to say that the only point in which it’s okay to cut up a baby is once it’s conscious. Conscious and viable are two completely different things, and any justice worth their seat should realize that. But that’s in a perfect world. In a perfect world abortion wouldn’t even be a concept, so we’re obviously not there. We have no clue what consciousness is. Some popular ideas are that an all-powerful human-esque being created a near-infinite universe for a handful of hairless apes to explore one-fucking-septillionth of-- and that’s consciousness (also the most popular theory… somehow); that reason is the ‘language of the universe’ and we happen to be the only creatures capable of ‘speaking’ it-- and speaking it is consciousness (thanks Mr. Thames, stoicism’s pretty cool); or that consciousness is a plane of existence, and using reason pulls down on that plane-- similar to mass pulling on space-time (and that’s the most convincing one, to me, which is saying a lot); you get the point: we’ve got no clue worth basing something as important as abortion off of. So what do we do? We’ve got to figure that out, maybe? Can we? I feel like the closest study to it is philosophy, which is, with all due respect, spitting out baseless concepts on life, reason, and reality until they make some sense at first glance. Maybe we need philosophy 2.0-- philosophy and the scientific process, combined at last. I mean I really don’t think we’ll be figuring it out anytime soon, there’s literally no place to start. What, poke the brain until your finger slips into the consciousness dimension? So what can we do about abortion? I say we stay on the safe side-- god-forbid we spend the next millennia putting babies through torture every few times some pregnant woman wanted to practice unsafe sex-- or some fucked up guy wanted to practice nonconsensual sex. I mean we’re all pretty sure you can’t feel pain or think without functional nerves and neurons, right? Dead people would agree. To me those are the features that would cause a baby to undergo negative emotions if they were to be aborted. So maybe we should do further research into when those parts of the brain begin development, or when those nerves start having a full connection to the brain. If we can’t find a definite point, we should err on the side of caution and ban abortion a little bit before it. Anyhow this is my opinion right now, it’ll probably be different in a few hours, so maybe I’m wrong about this ‘point at which babies would be disposed towards being slaughtered.’ In fact I’m pretty sure I’m probably wrong, this is the point in the discussion where a medical professional’s opinion would be a lot better than mine. Either way I think you get the thought process behind it. The idea for when we should consider it okay: when a baby would prefer not to be dead (obviously this is sarcasm but I hope you do understand what I’m getting at.) There’s always the argument of morals, but I think that’s a very clouded term in this case. Whether killing is okay is a moral issue. Maybe you decide it is okay to cease someone’s experience of life in extreme situations, maybe you don’t. The point is you’re ceasing someone’s experience of life. A little blob of a mother’s cells that is in no way conscious-- I hope we can agree-- is not ceasing someone’s experience of life. If you have a problem with ceasing an entire potential life, then I think you should reconsider. The sperm and eggs inside of every healthy and young individual are direct predecessors to a fully functional man or woman. Fetuses and babies are just intermediate steps between cell and coffin. If you have a problem with ending a life that could happen than you should, if you think it through to any reasonable extent, have a problem with people not putting all of their sperm into all of the eggs in the world before each sperm dies. I know that sounds exaggeratory and rude, but unless you can refute it I’m inclined to think it’s a realistic statement. By not having sex at all times we are ending potential lives. Moral is an ambiguous word, it’s kind of like a religious problem with something but without the part where it’s based on something you believe to be true. By saying you have a moral problem with it you’re saying that at first glance it puts you in discomfort and that you’re going to stick with that assessment without further thought as to its validity. I get it, that’s probably not wholly true, and probably a rude way of putting it, but I think there’re better ways of arguing your point than you have a moral problem with it. That’s like the least powerful form of validation. Also… religion. Listen, I get that you wholeheartedly believe it to be true, and only want good upon the other people of the world by acting based on your religion, but there’re a lot of other people that feel that way for different belief-sets. As a humanity we’ve got to just accept that no one thing that can’t be factually proven, or at least the closest thing circumstantially to it, should be applied to everyone as a whole. Also animals. I mean maybe this detracts from my point and points out some hypocrisy in me, but we’re animals. We kill fucking every fucking thing under the moon. But the second it applies to humans we act like it’s the most sacrilegious thing fucking ever. A fucking fetus is less important to the world, will care fucking infinitely less, has done nothing to contribute to anything, and is uglier and dumber than any living animal under the sun, and has one person that has ever interacted with it in any direct way, and we’re not okay with it going through a little discomfort. I mean I’m no vegetarian but what the hell are we thinking? This is the most self-centered way of any living population conducting itself, yet we have the gall to go and act like our ‘moral’, or ‘religious,’ or ‘logical’ fucking beliefs are at all deserved. We’ve got one perspective on any one issue: a human perspective. The perspective that the human brain comes up with. Yet we’re going to go and decide the fate of everything else with it. Ever fucking heard of science, y’know, where you get more than one viewpoint. Our science is unscientific, because we only look at things through human senses and human thought. Kill all the fucking fetuses for all I care, they’ll go through as much pain from it as any single human/animal on earth goes through in maybe a day. Whatever underlying problem you’ve got with that stance is just some evolutionarily advantageous way of looking at things; it’s self-benefitting in nature. I fucking hate talking about things like abortion. Mr. Thames, I hope you didn’t have to endure the pain of reading this whole thing, maybe then you’d’ve felt more pain than a fetus would fucking feel from its entire future life being stripped away from it: very fucking little.