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After Communism Libs had to Create Identity Politics

https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/the-problem-of-identity-politics-and-its-solution/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=paid&utm_campaign=problemwithidentitypolitics

The beginnings of identity politics can be traced to 1973, the year the first volume of Alexander Solzhenitsyn’s Gulag Archipelago—a book that demolished any pretense of communism’s moral authority—was published in the West. The ideological challenge of socialism was fading, its fighting spirit dwindling. This presented a challenge for the Left: how to carry on the fight against capitalism when its major ideological alternative was no longer viable?

The Left found its answer in an identity politics that grew out of anti-colonialism. Marx’s class struggle was reformulated into an ethno-racial struggle—a ceaseless competition between colonizer and colonized, victimizer and victim, oppressor and oppressed. Instead of presenting collectivism and central planning as the gateway to the realization of genuine freedom, the new multiculturalist Left turned to unmasking the supposed power relations that subordinated minorities and exploited third world nations.

The original battleground was the American university, where, as Bruce Bawer writes in The Victims’ Revolution: The Rise of Identity Politics and the Closing of the Liberal Mind,

The point [became] simply to “prove”—repetitively, endlessly—certain facile, reductive, and invariably left-wing points about the nature of power and oppression. In this new version of the humanities, all of Western civilization is not analyzed through the use of reason or judged according to aesthetic standards that have been developed over centuries; rather, it is viewed through prisms of race, class, and gender, and is hailed or condemned in accordance with certain political checklists.

Under the new leftist dispensation, the study of English became the application of critical and literary theory to disparate texts so as to uncover the hidden power relations they concealed. The study of history became the study of social history or “people’s history,” the record of Western Civilization’s oppression of various groups. And popping up everywhere were new departments of “studies”: African-American Studies, Women’s Studies, Queer Studies, Chicano Studies, Gender Studies, and so on. “What these radicals blandly call multiculturalism,” wrote Irving Kristol,

is as much a “war against the West” as Nazism and Stalinism ever were. Under the guise of multiculturalism, their ideas—whose radical substance often goes beyond the bounds of the political into sheer fantasy—ar

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[identity politics]

NOUN

a tendency for people of a particular religion, race, social background, etc., to form exclusive political alliances, moving away from traditional broad-based party politics.

Hello Spuds:

If you BELIEVE that racism ended, then you'd think groups of people united to FIGHT racism are trouble makers..

If, however, you believe that racism is still with us, joining groups of people fighting racism is a very patriotic, old fashioned, American thing to do...

excon

Side: Marxist Theory
outlaw60(15500) Disputed
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SUPER STUPID racism is owned by the Demorats that is not even a questionable argument !

Side: Stalinism's Mother
excon(14600) Disputed
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SUPER STUPID racism is owned by the Demorats that is not even a questionable argument !

Hello poochy boy:

Aren't you the guy who got banned for using the N-word, over, and over and over again on these very pages??? You ARE, aren't you??? Didja think we forgot?

Now, fetch this stick.

excon

Side: Marxist Theory
Amarel(5140) Clarified
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If, however, you believe that racism is still with us, joining groups of people fighting racism is a very patriotic, old fashioned, American thing to do...

If those groups utilize racism against a perceived dominant racial group as a way to supposedly fight against racism, then they represent a resurgence of racism, whether it was ever gone or not.

Side: Marxist Theory
excon(14600) Disputed
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If those groups utilize racism

Hello A:

IF, schmiff.. If my parents were 8' tall, I'd be playing in the NBA..

Look.. You don't have to BE racist in order to fight racism.. Of course, to many on your side, simply NOTICING racism makes ME the racist. I know how the game is played.

excon

Side: Stalinism's Mother
joker43 Clarified
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If those groups utilize racism against a perceived dominant racial group as a way to supposedly fight against racism, then they represent a resurgence of racism

Oh, the poor oppressed white man!

Lol. Fuck off, Amarel. Fighting Nazis now makes you racist apparently.

Side: Marxist Theory

There is not an issue the Democrat Party cares about that does not begin with identity politics.

The core of their priorities is no longer built around the good of ALL Americans. They live and breathe identity politics for their core special interest groups. These groups are what makes up the majority of their political financing and votes.

Basically the Democrat Party's strategy for the past 40 years has been to divide our nation into voting blocks, pitting one against the other. Then these same corrupt losers pretend to wonder why there is still racism in America.

THEY FAN THE FLAMES EVERY SINGLE DAY! It's their bread and butter and the reason why nothing ever changes in the African American community.

Most every speech you hear from a Democrat Politician today is built on the victimization of...

women,

A woman's choice to kill even viable babies up to birth, but called a woman's right to control her own body. (funny how she has total control of whether to use birth control, but it is just too inconvenient) She would rather control that viable baby's life.

Gays,

Transgender,

African Americans,

minorities,

illegal immigrants, but they leave out the illegal part,

These issues make up the vast majority of a Democrat's speech. Politicians once loved America and all Americans. Today, Democrats consider half of America as Deplorable and irredeemable.

They want to transform America. The Democrat Party has become the enemy of everything America stands for.

Side: Stalinism's Mother
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Side: Stalinism's Mother
outlaw60(15500) Disputed
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Grandpaw you Demorats must have Identity Politics that is all you got DUMMY !!!!!!!!!!!

Side: Marxist Theory
outlaw60(15500) Disputed
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Grandpaw let's revist some history of the Demorat party !!!!!!!!

To understand the Democrats' hypocrisy, one must travel back in time to the presidential election of 1984. The economy was booming thanks to Reaganomics, NASA was flying high, and President Ronald Reagan was running for re-election.

No big fan of Reagan, Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., reportedly recruited the Russians to work against the sitting president. According to widely published reports, Kennedy enlisted the help of the Kremlin in attempting to take down the president.

In a May 14, 1983 letter written by KGB Director Viktor Chebrikov to then-Soviet leader Yuri Andropov, Chebrikov stated that Kennedy had sent his friend and former Sen. John Tunney, D-Calif., to meet with the Kremlin. During the meeting, Tunney apparently delivered "themes" that Kennedy suggested ought to be used against Reagan in the 1984 election.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/russian-dirty-tricks-democrats-wrote-the-playbook-on-foreign-government-collusion

Side: Marxist Theory