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Afterlife

Think about whether or not you believe in the afterlife. Explain why you are for or against it.

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3 points

I see no reason to believe in it. Our perceptive experience tells us once a body is dead and the metabolic functioning stops, the body becomes nothing more than a decaying playground for necrophages.

The only way an afterlife would be feasible is if there is indeed a non-corporeal aspect to our existence, ie a soul. But this has never been proven or verified. What he have found is that all of the things normally attributed to it, our thoughts, personalities, memories, emotions, are all just products of extremely advanced chemistry. If this is true, these are all gone once the chemistry stops and cannot be recovered if the body is left dead for too long.

I strongly believe that belief in souls and afterlife is our way of fighting the fright that we are very temporary and limited things.

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I wish there was an afterlife, but since I can't die and check I'll probably never know :/

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I'm not sure if an afterlife exists; but if it does, my only hope is that it is more pleasant than afterbirth.

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I believe in the afterlife. I think it is different than the Egyptians though because I believe in heaven. I do not believe that you need to be buried with your possessions because I don't think that you need them. I also don't think you even need to buried to experience it.

I am curious why you bring up the Egyptian afterlife ?

I am not convinced an afterlife exists, and I don't need an afterlife to exist, I've been raised in very secular home, and haven't been very religious nor spiritual most of my childhood, I explored spirituality in my younger teenage years. I am content that I won't exist for eternity. I've contemplated immortality in my youth, and I had come to the conclusion that if I was immortal in any sense (or if anyone was for that matter) I'd eventually become bored of existence. If I existed forever in any sense, the value of my life to myself would cheapen over time. Think, how long could you exist until existence got boring for you? there is a limit to that for just about everyone, unless you went to a place that made you eternally satisfied. However I am fine with not having that, just as I am fine with not being a billionaire. I think the only reason people want to exist eternally is because they are brought up thinking that they might or will exist eternally and become spoiled for it in the same sense that if I had a billion dollars, not having a billion dollars would be horrible, but it is not horrible if I didn't have a million dollars, because I never had a billion dollars.

I can see why immortality is a boring prospect, but things change so much over time, I can't imagine running out of motivation for living. I'm pretty bummed about the inescapable conclusion of my life and at times, almost wish I could count myself among the ignorant Jesus freaks, awash with glee and stupidity...just waiting for the day when The Lord calls me home to do Jesusy-type things for all eternity for my master, like a fucking sheep....then again, just being dead can be a comforting thought when compared with celestial servitude I suppose. Does anybody else see near immortality becoming a scientific achievement someday soon? The ethical dilemma that would present seems like an unsolvable problem, but unless Muslims achieve their goal and destroy civilization, I really do think it's only a matter of time.

THE DEAD IS CONSCIOUS OF NOTHING'' THE LIVING ARE CONSCIOUS THAT THEY WILL DIE'' ( Ecclesiastes chapter 9 verse 5, 6.10. it is clear when a person dies he cease to exist, we cannot hear, see, think, or speak..all of our thoughts do perish.

as for the soul'' genesis chapter 2 verse 7 '' and god proceeded to form out of the dust the first man '' and blow into his nostril and he became a living soul'' genesis chapter 3 verse 19 '' from dust you were taken and to dust you will return.. there is no afterlife.. the soul that is sinning will surely die;;

pakicetus(1455) Disputed
1 point

How is Genesis evidence of anything?

alphiebutler(37) Clarified
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GENESIS IS WHERE IT ALL STARTED . everything is constructed,created by some one.the bible book of genesis tell how creation beginning,

Adam being god first human creation.it also tells what happened to disobedient Adam and eve..

from the dust they were created and when they died because of their sin, back to the dust they return, not to some afterlife.... the dead is conscious of nothing..

lolzors93(3225) Disputed
1 point

Are you suggesting that the Bible supports the notion of there being no afterlife?

pakicetus(1455) Disputed
1 point

No? How would you get that out of what I write?

alphiebutler(37) Clarified
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NO the bible does not support an afterlife but it does support the Resurrection''

while on earth Jesus resurrected love ones of those who had fallen asleep in death''

therefor with confidence through the words of the bible at JOHN chapter 5 verse 24,25-29 and many other bible accounts where it talks about those in the memorial tomb coming out.

Jesus himself was resurrected by his father Jehovah god.

when Jesus resurrected his friend Lazarus when he was awaken he did talk about any afterlife experience...among the many others they didn't either..

there is mention of an afterlife in the pages gods word the bible.. the afterlife stems from sources that are not of true worship....

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I see no reason not to believe in an afterlife. Keeping God out of this, way to many people have seen and experienced ghosts and apparitions, those that are both good and evil. Millions of individuals who are completely sane and in their right mind at the time have experienced ghosts that cannot be explained by logic or science.

pakicetus(1455) Disputed
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Many individuals, who claim to be in their right minds as well, have claimed to have experienced extraterrestrial abductions and probing.

I don't suppose you believe this as well?

zico20(345) Disputed
1 point

I don't believe aliens have ever visited Earth. Key word here is claimed. Some people are glory hounds. However, when a family refuses to use a room in their house or moves out altogether and that strains their family either financially or emotionally by moving in with other family members, then there is something to it.

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My personal experience that suggests an afterlife was an old girlfriend claimed she talked to her dead grandmother every once in awhile. When she did, candles would fall out of their holder. One morning she was asleep and I was lying on the couch watching TV when a candle fell out of the holder. About an hour later she came out of the bedroom and the first thing she asked was "did any candles fall out of the holder, I had a conversation with grandma."

multiple choice question for atheists

1 earthquake caused it to fall

2 train came close by and caused it to fall

3 girlfriend rigged it

4 I can think of billions of possible explanations

5 All of the above just to be covered completely

pakicetus(1455) Disputed
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Atheists do not dismiss the possibility of an afterlife, they merely do not believe in a god. An atheist could also, theoretically, be part of a religion, so long as it does not require he believe in a god.

Like you said, infinite possibilities, all as likely as the other in absence of evidence :P

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I think it would be afterlife because there time for anything to be possible. even 999 billion year you could pop back to life.