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Debate Score:33
Arguments:27
Total Votes:42
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America is the Greatest Country of Earth

Yes

Side Score: 21
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No

Side Score: 12

Hands down, no other country can even compete.

Side: Yes
1 point

America's greatness cannot be seriously challenged.

Only the standard resentful, green-eyed filth will poke and prod insults at the world's largest economy and leading military superpower.

When the filth spew out their anti-American rhetoric they forget how the U.S., has taken in countless thousands of refugees and tolerated the existence of millions of non tax paying latino illegal immigrants while China has its Bamboo Curtain to stop immigrants of any kind entering their country.

Russia has its Iron Curtain well and truly reinstated while other countries like Japan, Saudi Arabia, India, Indonesia along with most other Asian countries have a strict;- JOHNNY FOREIGNER KEEP OUT policy.

Along with many of his predecessors President Trump has recognised that America can no longer afford to be the generous host to the dregs of the world's shithole countries, but unlike his weak kneed forerunners, has the balls to take the appropriate action necessary to stem the unsustainable flow of life's losers and criminals.

The sanctimonious hand wringers are having a field day throwing mud at the only man with the political courage to do what should have been started 20 to 30 years ago.

Don't let the filth forget;- He who throws mud loses ground.

Side: Yes
1 point

America's greatness cannot be seriously challenged.

Ahahahaha. Shut up you buffoon. The blueprint for victory against America has been around for more than half a century. The American military does not know how to fight guerrilla wars and hence has had its arse kicked by literally every insurgency it has ever taken up arms against.

Your shitposting is escalating to Bronto-level idiocy lately.

Side: No
Antrim(1287) Clarified
3 points

Your customary abuse only serves to completely invalidate what was an embarrassingly feeble counter-argument to start with.

When lowlives such as you find it impossible to formulate and persuasively present a rational opposing viewpoint they try to make up for their arrested intellect and poor literary skills by engaging in the self defeating practice of name calling.

The United States of America is, and has been for around 100 years, the leader of the free world.

With such ongoing threats from an expansionist and belligerent Russia and a Imperialistic and hawkish China who are militarizing their artificial islands which they built in international waters, it is vital that there is a nation with the wherewithal, the knowhow and resolution as America to keep such dangerous aggressors in check.

Side: Yes
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
2 points

But Nazi why is it the Progressives are now so concerned with the children crossing the border ??????

Side: Yes

America "isn't the greatest" but we need to let everyone into the country from all of these places that are great.

Side: Yes
1 point

but we need to let everyone into the country from all of these places that are great.

Why would America "need" to do that? We don't need to let anyone into our country, because we are among the best countries on Earth. What "great places" are you suggesting? South American countries like Honduras and Nicaragua? Or African countries like Zimbabwe and South Sudan? I agree that in some places, America isn't the best country, but that doesn't mean we should just bulk order immigrants to try and fix what problems we do have.

Side: No
BiggieSmalls(12) Disputed
1 point

I was speaking in jest.

Side: Yes
1 point

America was founded on the best ideals. Since it’s founding, America has lived up to these various ideals to varying degrees. Also since that time, other nations have adopted many of the same ideals that make America great. At times other various countries live up to America’s ideals better than America does. But those great ideals are still very much American. Peace and prosperity have increased as these American ideals become less unique and more wide spread. Ultimately, American greatness has little to do with the country itself. It can essentially be had by any who adopt great ideals.

Side: Yes
1 point

This is very well put. Thank you.

Side: Yes
1 point

Obviously, it all depends on personal preference, and individual definitions of greatness.

I love the United States of America, and it is my home. Personally, I think it is the greatest for reasons that matter most to me.

That does not mean I think the US is perfect. I did not think my mom was perfect, but I still think she was the best mom ever.

For the same exact reason, it makes sense to me that Chinese people think China is greatest, that French people think France is greatest, etc. for every nation.

That does not mean the US does not have some distinct advantages that matter to me, like the US Constitution, the range of natural resources, the endless opportunity, the American character (such as it is after 50 years of decline in rugged individualism.) It is hard not to love a place where the stores never run out of food.

I have a friend who grew up in Nigeria. He has said to me on many occasions, "America is the best country in the world." He also has a standard thing he says when discussing political issues and criticizes the government, or talks about protests and views he disagrees with: "God bless America!"

Kenny (my friend from Nigeria) appreciates that the US is often jumbled because it fluctuates by design. He arrived near-penniless, and after 15 years owns a farm and two houses outright (no mortgage.) The Constitution provides for peaceful transfer of power, checks and balances to limit government power, a set of limited but absolute rights for the citizens, and mechanisms to protect and enforce those rights. The federalist system ensures no level of government can become uncontrollably powerful, and that no set of views can become too influential for too long.

The US also provides endless and universal opportunity to succeed and fail. While there is always a top 1%, and a bottom 25%, they are not composed continuously of the same individuals. The two richest men in the US (Gates and Bezos) made their own fortunes. Neither are people doomed to be in the bottom 25% or even 50% for their whole lives. All you need to do to keep from being permanently poor in the US are

- Graduate high school

- Get a job (any job)

- And not have kids until you are married.

98% of those who do these three things join the middle class by the end of their lives, regardless of how poor they were at the beginning.

This all combines to make for a messy country (as the last decade shows) but also for endless possibility for greatness, both as individuals and as a society.

Side: Yes
BiggieSmalls(12) Disputed
1 point

- Graduate high school

- Get a job (any job)

- And not have kids until you are married.

98% of those who do these three things join the middle class by the end of their lives, regardless of how poor they were at the beginning.

Basically conservatives.

Side: No
marcusmoon(576) Clarified
1 point

Biggie,

- Graduate high school

- Get a job (any job)

- And not have kids until you are married.

98% of those who do these three things join the middle class by the end of their lives, regardless of how poor they were at the beginning.

Your response: Basically conservatives.

Are you really suggesting that only conservatives can meet basic requirements to complete an extended program, work, delay gratification, plan ahead, and make responsible decisions?

I don't see how any of these things are functions of political ideology.

Most of the liberals and even most of the leftists I have ever known also graduated, worked, and were married before becoming parents.

I did not become a conservative until my thirties. I was also 30 years old before I earned enough to be "above the poverty line" by US Government standards.

While still a leftist, I graduated high school, had jobs, and kept from procreating. As a result, I was able to amass the personal capital (education, skills, experience) that enabled me to go from working minimum wage jobs to making a middle class income and owning a home. It took a couple decades, but I got there.

I probably could not have done it if I had not graduated high school.

I obviously could not have done it if I had not had a job.

I probably could not have done it if I had needed to find (and pay) somebody to take care of a kid while I went to work and school.

I work with several other people (various races and cultures) who followed more or less the same path, including being poor and liberal while young.

I am not suggesting that people who don't graduate or who have kids before being married are guaranteed always to be poor. I am just saying that their chances are a lot less than 98%

Side: Yes
1 point

It depends what category you are considering. Let's go off Civilization Revolution's categories for example. In that game you build your own Civ based on a RL Civ, you can win either a Technological victory, a Cultural victory, an Economic victory or a Domination victory.

Technological: China is the closest to this kind of victory IRL. They are developing gene editing tech and AI faster than any western country due to their lack of moral restraints. The first immortal cyborg human will likely be Chinese.

Cultural: No one, everyone's culture sucks.

Economic: Israel. Israel actually controls the economy of the entire west.

Domination: America, yes, America wins in one category, when it comes to invading countries and killing people America wins by far.

Side: No
1 point

"Domination: America, yes, America wins"

https://youtu.be/ovi17UjzM-I

Side: Yes
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

Lack of Facts why is it the illegal children are entering the US ???? Step up with some type of knowledge if you will

Side: Yes
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

It depends what category you are considering. Let's go off Civilization Revolution's categories for example. In that game you build your own Civ based on a RL Civ, you can win either a Technological victory, a Cultural victory, an Economic victory or a Domination victory.

Technological: China is the closest to this kind of victory IRL. They are developing gene editing tech and AI faster than any western country due to their lack of moral restraints. The first immortal cyborg human will likely be Chinese.

Cultural: No one, everyone's culture sucks.

Economic: Israel. Israel actually controls the economy of the entire west.

Domination: America, yes, America wins in one category, when it comes to invading countries and killing people America wins by far.

The Ramblings of the Incoherent is never ending in your world !!!!!!!!!!

Side: Yes
outlaw60(15368) Disputed
1 point

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2012/nov/30/uk-expat-guide-us

Can you believe The Guardian ?????????????? LMAO

Side: Yes
1 point

America is a joke. It's the narcissistic kid who everyone knows has way too high a self-image but since he's willing to harm himself and get expelled, no one really wants to tease him as he's a psycho and will fight to the death.

Side: No
DMX2 Disputed
1 point

It's the narcissistic kid who everyone knows has way too high a self-image but since he's willing to harm himself and get expelled, no one really wants to tease him as he's a psycho and will fight to the death.

And we don't come up with little girl names like "mingiwuwu".

https://youtu.be/fGx6K90TmCI

Side: Yes

I think the Bible says Israel is, that is why God protects her and those who bless her.

Side: No
1 point

In terms of technology, it's a three-way battle. Japan, China and Germany are brilliant in this regard. America could be up there too, but it's mostly just Silicon Valley elevating the rest of the country.

Democratically, America sucks. It's 2 party system sucks, it's voting system sucks. It's better than all the countries with dictators, but it lags behind most European countries there.

Culturally, America is very xenophobic and capitalist (Trump embodies most bad American stereotypes perfectly). The nation's mindset as a whole is very selfish, but luckily this is changing for the better. There is no greatest country culturally, because every candidate has been stained one way or another. Germany with Nazism, Japan with imperialism, Spain with extreme Catholicism, etc.

In truth, no country is better than all the rest, because every nation has both good and bad.

Side: No