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Should be pardoned No excuses for what they did.
Debate Score:31
Arguments:18
Total Votes:31
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American Crimes against Humanity!

There are many crimes against humanity that America committed, here is a small list

 

1.) Testing the effects of radiation on soldiers, like injecting uranium pellets into sailors.

2.) Giving syphilis to unknowing people to test treatments and cures.

3.) The so called 'black sites' which violate the laws of war.

4.) Most likely quite a few things done by the Special Activities Division (SAD).

There are others, so should America be pardoned (as they have reasons for doing so) or should they not?

Should be pardoned

Side Score: 19
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No excuses for what they did.

Side Score: 12
1 point

Hey, the USA Has done these things for multiple reasons. But the overall identifying theme is that they are trying to maximize the United States' citizens lifespans. By either

1.) Giving people complications so that they know what to do medically, the injecting of sailors with uranium pellets was to help their people recover from radiation poisoning when the nukes came.

2.) Torturing detainees for information to resolve crises, and to get information on possible future events. How many have been stopped? The world will never know.

Side: Should be pardoned
KAZ4541(35) Disputed
1 point

maximising their own life spans by minimising others. great plan. seems to go hand in hand with capitalism. torturing detainees to get them to admit to crimes they never commited while ignoring those who do commit crimes. i can easily say that if the u.s. was eliminated, how many crises would have been stopped, especially since 70% of wars are created by the u.s.

Side: No excuses for what they did.
1 point

sacrificing few can very well save many. By doing these things we are able to know what is able to help our military grow and be more advanced than the enemy in many ways.

Side: Should be pardoned
1 point

If america did not make sacrifices then we can achieve victory. Just as John F. Kennedy said

"Do not ask what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country" .

Side: Should be pardoned
2 points

What the USA did is unacceptable! They damaged many lives for reasons that would most likely only help the higher-ups in society! Those international laws are in place for a reason, and that reason is to allow humans to be treated like humans rather than lab rats. Most of the things that were done were for a war that never happened (yet... but the odds are slim).

Side: No excuses for what they did.
trumpeter93(999) Disputed
3 points

I'm not saying that the USA is the perfect country, and that we never committed any wrong doing.

We tested radioactive items on soldiers because at the time we didn't know or understand the effects of radiation. It doesn't make it right, but it should be taken into consideration.

I don't think that the whole torturing terrorists is a good argument for you because who gives a crap? No offense. I mean why should we care about what we do to terrorists when they can and have and will continue to murder innocent people all over the world. They don't play by the rules and in this case, I don't think we should either.

Side: Should be pardoned
JayAr(182) Disputed
2 points

Excellent point on the soldiers!

We should play by the rule and treat them humanely because we are humane, kind, caring, and they are not. We shouldn't stoop down to their level!

Side: No excuses for what they did.
KAZ4541(35) Disputed
1 point

im not saying the usa is a perfect country either, thats why the u.s. constantly overthrows democratically elected leaders, frames others for being terrorists, promotes false propaganda about other governments via their liberal media, purposely crashes others economies, ie through the plaza accord, forcefully sets up sweat shops, creates oil spills, pollutes the environment, wastes resources, robs resources, kills 1 million iraqis.

Side: No excuses for what they did.
MegaDittos(571) Disputed
3 points

Please explain how the actions you have stated has "help the higher ups in society"?Thanks

Side: Should be pardoned
JayAr(182) Disputed
2 points

What I meant is at the time the only ones who could afford/get treatment would be the higher-ups.

Side: No excuses for what they did.
smackdye(4) Disputed Banned
3 points

heck yeah! cause Iraq , Iran,Korea ,China,Egypt the list is endless here..those country's are way better than America your argument is pointless end of story

Side: Should be pardoned
KAZ4541(35) Disputed
1 point

let's take a look at the relationship that the u.s. had with iraq, iran, and china. first of all, iraq. the u.s. put sadam in power and supported him for over 20 yrs. the u.s has also supported iran. since sadam decided to trade oil in euros, america decided to over throw him and install a pupet regime that obeys u.s. orders. fact of the matter is, as bad as iraq was, they were backed by the u.s. the same went for iran. in fact, the only reason why iran is black listed by america is because it wont allow u.s. oil corporation in there to rob them. do you ever wonder why everything is made in china? its because nixon went in there and struck a deal with deng. in fact, it was america who gave china the most favoured nation status. prior to nixon going into china, there were no sweat shops as we know it today. america also supported china's entry to the wto. egypt is also a widely known puppet government of the u.s. in fact, the cia regularly kidnaps people and tortures them in egypt.

Supporting Evidence: Details of American crimes against humanity (www.facebook.com)
Side: No excuses for what they did.
Ahab(9) Disputed
1 point

People like you guys are not fit to be leaders. You are wise enough to know that victory can not be achieved without sacrifice. Some medicines today have been tested on humans and have proven to work effectively. People complain about Animal testing, but when we use testing on humans they still complain. People get real, think about what must be done to provide your country with the things it needs.

Side: Should be pardoned

This is why don't trust government at all. --------------------------------

Side: No excuses for what they did.
1 point

Let me think, ill kill and put through pain loads of people and continue to do this fora while do you think i should be pardoned, i think not, the same goes to America NO ONE OR NOTHING IS ABOVE THE LAW.

Side: No excuses for what they did.