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Americas newest hero Omar Mateen

Well, we just had our first mass shooting for 2016. The deed was done by a US citizen, though looking at his name he's probably a Muslim.
The news is saying he set a new High Score
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Factual clarification. It is premature to call this the first mass shooting of 2016. Pending further investigation into two shootings which occurred on March 7 and 9, this may be the third according to the Congressional criteria for a mass shooting.. Both of these shootings involved four or more victims, but the motive is not yet established (or at least has not been publicly released), so the indeterminant criteria cannot yet be assessed. (Source)

More important than being Muslim, Mateen was politically radicalized and probably socially isolated and unstable. The latter being variables actually proven to predispose to violent behavior like his, unlike any religious belief system.

Ayemaker(237) Disputed
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It's easy to politically radicalize someone. Is that enough by itself to get somebody to kill innocent people? I think his religious beliefs had a lot to do with it. According to the Quran, homosexuals should be stoned to death.

I think LGBT people are disgusting, I haven't killed any though. There is nothing driving me to do so. It's different with Muslims. I have heard of gays being hung, stoned, and thrown off of tall buildings in Muslim countries. It's normal for them.

Jace(5222) Disputed
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It's easy to politically radicalize someone.

The more you talk, the more you prove that point.

Is that enough by itself to get somebody to kill innocent people? I think his religious beliefs had a lot to do with it. According to the Quran, homosexuals should be stoned to death. [...]There is nothing driving me to do so. It's different with Muslims. I have heard of gays being hung, stoned, and thrown off of tall buildings in Muslim countries. It's normal for them.

The Bible also instructs Christians to kill homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13). Neither faith is innocent when it comes to their violent condemnation of this class of people, nor does either lack its fanatics. Are there Muslims who murder homosexuals around the world? Yes. Is that unique to Islam? Hardly. Christianity is no stranger to violence, towards homosexuals or others. It is just as normal for that faith to have its violent fundamentalists.

I think LGBT people are disgusting, I haven't killed any though.

What. You want a cookie for falling one bar shorter on the ladder of hatred? Get outta here.

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It's easy to politically radicalize someone. Is that enough by itself to get somebody to kill innocent people? I think his religious beliefs had a lot to do with it. According to the Quran, homosexuals should be stoned to death.

Religion has far less to do with it. The overwhelming majority of Muslims, Jews, and Christians do not kill homosexuals, despite being instructed to do so by their religion. It takes political radicalization for someone to adhere to extreme fundamentalism.

They need to Shrek themselves before they wreck themselves.

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Its hilarious all these Christians crying that the left somehow sympathizes with an islamic terrorist when they themselves hate and despise Gay people. This terrorist shot up a bunch of Gay people. Shouldnt it be YOU guys who are sympathizing with the terrorist in this instance?

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I was wrong earlier when I said it's too bad they didn't kill him as he was killing others. They killed him, so we won't have to watch his evil face and pay a lot of money through a long trial process. Once again, Muslim obeyed the Koran and gets what he deserves, in the fire of Hell.

Ayemaker(237) Disputed
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If you think this won't affect us you're wrong. Once Grandma Clinton finishes pretending to be concerned for the victims she is going to increase her gun control bullshit to the Nth degree.

LittleMisfit(1745) Clarified
2 points

You know that you and Dadman jizzed in your pants when you heard someone shot a bunch of gay people. Your religion is no better than Islam. Leviticus 20:13 says, "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." Your god told people to kill gays, so your god is no better than the person that shot those people.

Saintnow(3684) Clarified
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I know you're a foul mouth little punk..............................................................

FromWithin(8241) Disputed
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You total bigoted fool!..........................................................................

Don't get me wrong, I'm a Shrek fearing man and I believe human homosexuality is wrong, but he most definitely jizzed when he heard it was a gay bar, while I on the other hand was relieved.

ProLogos(2793) Disputed
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That verse is saying "no threesomes with another man".

But if it's all men, then it's gravy.

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He was a licensed gun owner, who wouldn't have had access to guns if the conservatives had allowed Obama to pass the law to restrict gun access to known ISIS sympathizers.

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http://dadmansabode.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=9#p9 ... Obamah and Clinton will do all they can to let Islam off the hook ......

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Quran Chapter (8) sūrat l-anfāl (The Spoils of War) ...

Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers:

I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers:

smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them." < Islam's Jihad at its finest

AveSatanas(4443) Disputed
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You do know the SWAT team shot and killed him right .

dadman(1703) Disputed
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as far as the Muslim killer is concerned .. he is now with a bearded Allah and a band of 72 Virginians .... he sure go a purdie mouth .... eww !

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"Americas newest hero Omar Mateen" ?? .... no, Islam's (Jihad / Sharia Law) latest hero ... the fact that he was an American citizen is immaterial ...

but I'm sure your headline is sarcastic ?

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Actually, the fact that he is an American citizen is extremely relevant, particularly when you have idiots like Trump trying to use him as a justification for his ban on Muslims traveling to the United States.

Saintnow(3684) Disputed
2 points

Muslims should be banned from entering the US. If they want to be followers of the Koran which says over 100 times to kill Christians and Jews, they should be considered suspect by association with Muslims who obey the Koran in jihad. It should be extremely difficult for a Muslim to come to the US. People like you are idiots. If your mother was in the Twin Towers when they fell, you got what you deserve as all of those terrorists came easily to the US thanks to people like you with no common sense to see Islam is dangerous.

outlaw60(15368) Disputed
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Well look here Progressive a Muslim has attacked Americans but all you can do is spin it to try to avoid reality ! This is from CNN the network you Progressives love to watch !

"Orlando, Florida (CNN)An American-born man who'd pledged allegiance to ISIS gunned down 50 people early Sunday at a gay nightclub in Orlando -- the deadliest mass shooting in the United States and the nation's worst terror attack since 911, authorities said."

How could this happen under the "Boy Kings" watch ? The deadliest mass shooting in the United States !

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Donald J. Trump‏ @realDonaldTrump

Is President Obama going to finally mention the words radical Islamic terrorism? If he doesn't he should immediately resign in disgrace! ............ I agree

Ignoramis(381) Disputed
2 points

Remember, the ppl telling us to hate all Muslims b/c of Omar Mateen are the ones fighting for Mateen to have easy access to assault weapons.

IAmSparticus(1516) Clarified
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Right, because when the FBI and the police say "Hold on", the best bet is to completely ignore them.

outlaw60(15368) Disputed
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Wake up Progressive your loved "Boy King" Obama now has a serious BLACK MARK on his legacy and there is no way you Progressives or your Leftist Media can spin this to remove that mark !

outlaw60(15368) Disputed
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And just look at the Progressive trying to lay blame for your "Boy King's" complete failure to protect the Nation !

Can you imagine our extremist President & Hillary Clinton are so brainwashed by their ideology, they refuse to even name the enemy murdering us.

Obama took an oath to proect ALL Americans and defend us with all his might. HE REFUSES TO EVEN NAME OUR ENEMY! He is totally lost in his political correct insanity.

You want to elect more of the same extremism with Hillary?

Trump understands the enemy and will take whatever steps it takes to defend all Americans.

Isis just keeps getting more bold in this nation with such weakness from Democrats. What did Obama & Hillary do as they always do when tragedy hits? GUNS! They spew their political gun control rhetoric! No memtion of Islamic terrorists, but you better believe they mentioned guns AS ALWAYS! No outrage, or declaration of war against an enemy who kills us a little bit at a time.

He refuses to even take out cities where Isis controls. He leaves it to others to fight our battles. He wants the united nations to take the lead. LOL, what a pathetic president we have.

How can any American vote for such weak ideologs? Hillary was the person in charge of foreign policies while Isis grew! She is as pathetic as Obama.

For the next weeks we will hear non stop from the Left how assault rifles are the problem. NOT ISLAMIC TERRORISM! It's funny how this same thing happened in France where they don't allow guns. In other nations they just use bombs to blow up these night clubs. The priorities of Democrats is their insane ideology while Americans die. They want to take your guns(and if you think it is just assault rifles, you are a total idiot) while the murderers will always have their weapon of choice!

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Why do you think you know better than the FBI and the police, both of whom have said to wait?

Seriously, you are attacking people for using a tragedy for a political purpose while using the same tragedy for a political purpose.

I feel like that makes you some word you use a lot. What was that word that means "a person who claims or pretends to have certain beliefs about what is right but who behaves in a way that disagrees with those belief".

He is a Muslim with ISIS connections. The left will now try to blame Republicans for it by claiming it was their intolerance of the religion of peace that made him do it.... stay tuned.

The Jews must of framed him.

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I can't argue with that. The Jew is crafty. Sounds like something they would do.

Jace(5222) Disputed
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And I have no idea if you mean that or not.