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Americas newest hero Omar Mateen
Well, we just had our first mass shooting for 2016. The deed was done by a US citizen, though looking at his name he's probably a Muslim. The news is saying he set a new High Score
Factual clarification. It is premature to call this the first mass shooting of 2016. Pending further investigation into two shootings which occurred on March 7 and 9, this may be the third according to the Congressional criteria for a mass shooting.. Both of these shootings involved four or more victims, but the motive is not yet established (or at least has not been publicly released), so the indeterminant criteria cannot yet be assessed. (Source)
More important than being Muslim, Mateen was politically radicalized and probably socially isolated and unstable. The latter being variables actually proven to predispose to violent behavior like his, unlike any religious belief system.
It's easy to politically radicalize someone. Is that enough by itself to get somebody to kill innocent people? I think his religious beliefs had a lot to do with it. According to the Quran, homosexuals should be stoned to death.
I think LGBT people are disgusting, I haven't killed any though. There is nothing driving me to do so. It's different with Muslims. I have heard of gays being hung, stoned, and thrown off of tall buildings in Muslim countries. It's normal for them.
Is that enough by itself to get somebody to kill innocent people? I think his religious beliefs had a lot to do with it. According to the Quran, homosexuals should be stoned to death. [...]There is nothing driving me to do so. It's different with Muslims. I have heard of gays being hung, stoned, and thrown off of tall buildings in Muslim countries. It's normal for them.
The Bible also instructs Christians to kill homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13). Neither faith is innocent when it comes to their violent condemnation of this class of people, nor does either lack its fanatics. Are there Muslims who murder homosexuals around the world? Yes. Is that unique to Islam? Hardly. Christianity is no stranger to violence, towards homosexuals or others. It is just as normal for that faith to have its violent fundamentalists.
I think LGBT people are disgusting, I haven't killed any though.
What. You want a cookie for falling one bar shorter on the ladder of hatred? Get outta here.
Whatever man. I know one thing, these Muslims ain't peaceful. This is why we all need to carry a gun. If we all carried guns, these terrorist pussies would think twice about coming at us like that.
It's easy to politically radicalize someone. Is that enough by itself to get somebody to kill innocent people? I think his religious beliefs had a lot to do with it. According to the Quran, homosexuals should be stoned to death.
Religion has far less to do with it. The overwhelming majority of Muslims, Jews, and Christians do not kill homosexuals, despite being instructed to do so by their religion. It takes political radicalization for someone to adhere to extreme fundamentalism.
When I said they were being stoned, hung, and thrown off of buildings I didn't mean they were being murdered. In countries where Sharia law is in full effect gays are tried, found guilty and executed. It's an accepted practice that most Muslims are familiar with.
The way I see it Omar Mateen killed 50 Americans, not 50 fags. We don't obey sharia law here.
When I said they were being stoned, hung, and thrown off of buildings I didn't mean they were being murdered. In countries where Sharia law is in full effect gays are tried, found guilty and executed. It's an accepted practice that most Muslims are familiar with.
Accepted in some places, banned in others. That's rather the point.
You said religion had little to do with his decision to kill those people. It doesn't matter where it's accepted or not accepted, Sharia law is part of their religious traditions. That's what makes it so easy for them to murder people. In their minds you have broken the law and must be punished.
Its hilarious all these Christians crying that the left somehow sympathizes with an islamic terrorist when they themselves hate and despise Gay people. This terrorist shot up a bunch of Gay people. Shouldnt it be YOU guys who are sympathizing with the terrorist in this instance?
I was wrong earlier when I said it's too bad they didn't kill him as he was killing others. They killed him, so we won't have to watch his evil face and pay a lot of money through a long trial process. Once again, Muslim obeyed the Koran and gets what he deserves, in the fire of Hell.
If you think this won't affect us you're wrong. Once Grandma Clinton finishes pretending to be concerned for the victims she is going to increase her gun control bullshit to the Nth degree.
You know that you and Dadman jizzed in your pants when you heard someone shot a bunch of gay people. Your religion is no better than Islam. Leviticus 20:13 says, "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." Your god told people to kill gays, so your god is no better than the person that shot those people.
I didn't even read what he said......it seems like this one is like a little girl, this one and pirateelfdog are two weirdos of a different sort.....probably homos
Don't get me wrong, I'm a Shrek fearing man and I believe human homosexuality is wrong, but he most definitely jizzed when he heard it was a gay bar, while I on the other hand was relieved.
He was a licensed gun owner, who wouldn't have had access to guns if the conservatives had allowed Obama to pass the law to restrict gun access to known ISIS sympathizers.
Actually, the fact that he is an American citizen is extremely relevant, particularly when you have idiots like Trump trying to use him as a justification for his ban on Muslims traveling to the United States.
Muslims should be banned from entering the US. If they want to be followers of the Koran which says over 100 times to kill Christians and Jews, they should be considered suspect by association with Muslims who obey the Koran in jihad. It should be extremely difficult for a Muslim to come to the US. People like you are idiots. If your mother was in the Twin Towers when they fell, you got what you deserve as all of those terrorists came easily to the US thanks to people like you with no common sense to see Islam is dangerous.
Get an education, buffoon. Christianity is not governed by Old Testament law which was given to Israel. Are you really as dumb as you act? That's hard to believe, but maybe true. The New Testament teaches that we are suppose to obey our rulers. That teaching was given when Christians were being thrown to the lions. You should read the Bible instead of being a parrot of people who hate God.
Christianity does teach that men with men acting inappropriately sexually and women with women doing the same kind of thing is abomination. We speak the truth, God executes vengeance against His enemies and I guess you are going to find out the hard way, aren't you? Get an education or learn the hard way. You can't win trying to keep God from overruling you.
What in the world makes you think you are smart? You always talk like you know things you have little clue about.
“Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle [the tiniest marks in the Hebrew script] will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.”
Idiot. Jesus fulfilled the law. His word remains. You will be judged according to His word. Read His word in the Old Testament, it was given to the Jews to be obeyed, they rebelled and lost their nation. The Old Testament was God's covenant with Israel, and God fulfills His promise in Jesus Christ. The New Testament is the new covenant, the law is holy, the path is holiness. Jesus taught that we are to be in obedience to the higher powers of government which are over us. This teaching is throughout the New Testament. Our government sets the punishments or non-punishment of homosexuality. The government of Israel in the Old Testament was delineated by God for Israel. Christians are in the New covenant. You're a moron, trained to be a fool taking a verse here or there from the Bible and twisting it to support your stupidity.
The law remains, homosexuality is still wrong but our government has changed, The Bible teaches that Christians are supposed to obey the law of the land. You are trying to make people think they should be murderers if they are Christians. Maybe that's why you don't want to be a Christian, because you believe you would have to kill homosexuals. That's stupid, and you are being idiotic to think and talk that way..........and don't boo hoo me about me calling you names. You are being a buffoon, and idiot, talking stupid, like you have a mental block, retardation of ADS or something so you can't learn anything. You'er being an idiot, it's an accurate description of you and I don't care if you whine about me pointing it out. Boo hoo. The Bible does not teach that, buffoon. The Koran does clearly say over 100 times that Muslims are supposed to kill Jews, and Christians and it says they are supposed to kill homosexuals......and that is why this terrorist killed 50 in Florida yesterday...obeying the Koran.
I hope your attitude is not a common Christian attitude. The Holy Bible does state that the government is here to promote an ordered, fair society, and should be heeded. It also states that God's law exceeds human authority. If the laws contradict each other you follow God's laws.
The Apostle Paul wrote the verse in The Book of Romans that talks about obeying the government. I suppose the Emperor removed his head as a reward for being so obedient?
When we ignored what Al-Qaeda declared to be their intentions, we gave them exactly what they wanted, and paid for it in the blood of thousands (of our own, hundreds of thousands of innocents), and billions of dollars.
Now we have another group who has declared what they want, and made it very obvious why they want it. They want us to alienate Western Muslims so that they become radicalized. They want us to consider it a war of Christianity vs Islam, because that gives them more supporters.
My god, it's like you guys aren't even bothering to listen to what any of the counter terrorism experts have been saying this entire time.
So, we should molly-coddle these cretins so they won't come at us??? How's that working out in Europe, the land of political correctness? Not too well from what I see. You don't combat evil with niceness; you combat it with strength and resolve. You fight fire with fire. That appeasement didn't work with Hitler and it won't work with Islam. The Crusades came after years and years of Muslim aggression. Appeasement doesn't work.
So, we should molly-coddle these cretins so they won't come at us??
Another fun game: Show me any time I have suggested anything even resembling that.
How's that working out in Europe, the land of political correctness?
Not only is Europe as a whole not doing that, but Europe as a whole isn't doing much of anything, because it's a hell of a lot of different countries doing different things.
You don't combat evil with niceness; you combat it with strength and resolve.
You sure as hell don't combat a group by doing exactly what they want you to do. That's kind of day one shit.
You fight fire with fire.
That's how you burn down the building. That's a stupid phrase that implies you want us to behave like terrorists.
That appeasement didn't work with Hitler and it won't work with Islam.
It's also not what I have talked about. Why do you have so much difficulty responding to what I actually say? Listening you smack down straw men arguments gets so boring.
The Crusades came after years and years of Muslim aggression. Appeasement doesn't work.
That is so laughably baseless. The Crusades happened for a wide variety of reasons, some political, some religious. Some happened because of Muslim aggression, others were caused by Venetian ambition, others by Christian aggression.
Why are you so insistent on oversimplifying everything? That mentality is what gets us into situations like the one we are in right now.
Well look here Progressive a Muslim has attacked Americans but all you can do is spin it to try to avoid reality ! This is from CNN the network you Progressives love to watch !
"Orlando, Florida (CNN)An American-born man who'd pledged allegiance to ISIS gunned down 50 people early Sunday at a gay nightclub in Orlando -- the deadliest mass shooting in the United States and the nation's worst terror attack since 911, authorities said."
How could this happen under the "Boy Kings" watch ? The deadliest mass shooting in the United States !
Is President Obama going to finally mention the words radical Islamic terrorism? If he doesn't he should immediately resign in disgrace! ............ I agree
Wake up Progressive your loved "Boy King" Obama now has a serious BLACK MARK on his legacy and there is no way you Progressives or your Leftist Media can spin this to remove that mark !
Can you imagine our extremist President & Hillary Clinton are so brainwashed by their ideology, they refuse to even name the enemy murdering us.
Obama took an oath to proect ALL Americans and defend us with all his might. HE REFUSES TO EVEN NAME OUR ENEMY! He is totally lost in his political correct insanity.
You want to elect more of the same extremism with Hillary?
Trump understands the enemy and will take whatever steps it takes to defend all Americans.
Isis just keeps getting more bold in this nation with such weakness from Democrats. What did Obama & Hillary do as they always do when tragedy hits? GUNS! They spew their political gun control rhetoric! No memtion of Islamic terrorists, but you better believe they mentioned guns AS ALWAYS! No outrage, or declaration of war against an enemy who kills us a little bit at a time.
He refuses to even take out cities where Isis controls. He leaves it to others to fight our battles. He wants the united nations to take the lead. LOL, what a pathetic president we have.
How can any American vote for such weak ideologs? Hillary was the person in charge of foreign policies while Isis grew! She is as pathetic as Obama.
For the next weeks we will hear non stop from the Left how assault rifles are the problem. NOT ISLAMIC TERRORISM! It's funny how this same thing happened in France where they don't allow guns. In other nations they just use bombs to blow up these night clubs. The priorities of Democrats is their insane ideology while Americans die. They want to take your guns(and if you think it is just assault rifles, you are a total idiot) while the murderers will always have their weapon of choice!
He is a Muslim with ISIS connections. The left will now try to blame Republicans for it by claiming it was their intolerance of the religion of peace that made him do it.... stay tuned.