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Debate Score:52
Arguments:35
Total Votes:55
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An Atheist family will probably let their children choose...

.......their faith a lot faster than a theist family.

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5 points

There's certainly going to be bias on both sides, but I do believe theist parents are more likely to "stack the cards" heavily in favor of their religion as opposed to atheist parents, who I feel are more likely to deal even hands to each religion and say something to the effect of "choose one or none; but do so based on the current evidence you have and not just because some authority figure tells you to."

The main reason for this has already been brought up I think, and it is the consequences of one's beliefs:

1. The theist parents love their child and are genuinely concerned for its well being (both future and present).

2. The theist parents firmly believe that all non-believers are not to be rewarded in the afterlife.

3. Moreover, the theist parents firmly believe that non-believers are to be most severely punished in the the afterlife.

I think it's logical to conclude that such parents are likely to raise their children to shun other religious beliefs to protect their child from suffering such a fate.

Atheists, on the other hand, typically do not believe in any form of afterlife; therefore making such threats of eternal damnation empty and non-motivational for believing in one thing or another.

Side: Yes
2 points

Very well-put and probably accurate .

Side: Yes
4 points

The only reason I'm not with the fundies who seem to have Old Testament glued to their faces and shotguns glued to their hands is that Athiests have always struck me as reasonable, intelligent fellows who happen to not believe in God. So I'm sure they all will have freedom for their children until their community gets too big and we get Athiest fundies who bomb churches.

Side: Yes
3 points

we get Athiest fundies who bomb churches.

That's quite difficult. Fundamentalism only really applies to religion. I mean, atheist fundamentalism is possible in concept, but what would they be adhering to?

Also, how can you blow something up in the name of a lack of a God? It doesn't really roll off the tongue...

Side: Yes
FreeWill(120) Clarified
1 point

I've seen crazier things. Most likely because some oddball was yelled at by priests who have cartilage for brains and think up explosives as the best comeback.

Side: Yes
3 points

Religious families are more strict on their child's choice of religion because what kind of family that believes in hell would let their child be led astray from the beliefs of which they are so sure of.

Side: Yes
2 points

I speak from experience on this debate, my mother took me to a church to expose me to religion but then let me decide if i wanted to keep going or not, thus i was free to choose if i wanted to believe in magic or reality - I chose reality

Side: Yes

Probably. I'm sure there are plenty of atheists who immorally indoctrinate their children against religion. But I just think it's so much harder to do. How can you convince a child into believing a lack of something? Children are inquisitive, and would be reassured by a friend to watch over them. Telling them that there is no God is like telling them that Santa isn't real.

The time will come when they will form their own opinions. Leave children to their own devices, and you'd be amazed what they can do. The worst thing to do is to indoctrinate them. They are more willing to learn as a child than as any other age, and stifling that is wrong.

Unfortunately, the most popular theism threatens eternal damnation for choosing against them. So it is much more likely that if a child knows this, they will pick theism. There are no consequences for not picking atheism, so the child can make a free choice.

Side: Yes

That is pretty much why I came up with this debate. in theism you need to be very mature and secure but not as much in atheism.

Side: Yes
ChuckHades(3197) Disputed
2 points

Wait, what? That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that a kid has more chance of choice in an atheist family than a theist one, because there is no punishment for choosing against the family's beliefs.

I don't know what you mean by "mature and secure".

Side: No
WarthogRK(8) Disputed
1 point

I would think the opposite was true. The choice to reject all religions puts you in the position of being subject to any and all afterlife punishments from all religions.

Then again, that still applies to theists, but removes one of said afterlives. From my experience from liberal Cali lots of people just default to "I believe in God, but I'm fuzzy on the rest." In my opinion, not a mature response.

Side: Yes
0 points

They'll probably let their kids choose after bringing them up in an imaginary world where all Catholics are pedophiles or homosexuals,all Muslims are terrosists, Hindu's are all 2nd world poor people and Buddists are all obese.

And of course, science is fact so you don't need evolution.

Side: No
1 point

seems odd that they would lie to their children. ..................................

Side: Yes
Liber(1730) Disputed
4 points

Why would it ever seem odd that parents would lie to their children?

Mommy, where do babies come from?

Mommy, how does Santa go to every home in the whole wide world?

Mommy, ...

Side: No
Axmeister(4319) Disputed
1 point

Media helps the parents a lot too. Chances are if you spoke to your average, ignorant atheist and asked them to describe a muslim they'ld probably think of a turban-wearing, suicide bomber.

Side: No
Apollo(1608) Disputed
1 point

And your proof of this? Oh that's right...you don't deal in facts and logic, rather, you spread lies and misinformation about people you disagree with.

Side: Yes
1 point

Dude this all started with Axemeister, the replies keep going on and on. Geez. And I am not basing it on logic, I am basing it on "what if..." Okay?

Side: No
1 point

And if you saw my reply to Axmeister, I am actually disputing what you thought I was supporting.

Side: Yes
1 point

Please read everything before you come to conclusions......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Side: Yes
Axmeister(4319) Disputed
1 point

Why do you randomly assume that I'm and imbecile and that all my research is made up and illusionary just because I disagree with you?

Anyway, can you honestly deny the ignorance that is consistent among many atheists?

"Oh that's right...you don't deal in facts and logic"

On the debate heavily featuring America I left most of my arguments with large amounts of evidence and clearly labelled sources, the fact that you have yet to reply to most of them shows that you can't find anything to trump it.

" you spread lies and misinformation about people you disagree with."

This is coming from a person who'ld refer to me using the stereotype "puppet of the Queen" just because I'm British and disagreed with you.

Side: No
Saurbaby(5579) Disputed
1 point

I don't know any parents that actually teach their children those things.

Side: Yes
Axmeister(4319) Disputed
2 points

Sorry if I didn't make it clear, but I also don't imagine parents purposely lying to their children so that they remain athiest, but (as I said to others) the media also assists alot by tainting religions with the sins and evils of their extremists. For example, homosexual catholics and that fact the some terrorists are muslims.

Side: No
1 point

of course you don't and neither do I but they exist Theistic or atheistic. (that sucks I know :) )

Side: Yes
0 points

You have got to be kidding. Atheists hate all people that do not agree with them, Christians for example can hate no one. Dislike some one, but not hate. There is a wide spread campaign by atheist to be little religions, the atheist that silently doesn't believe in God is no more. How can any radical let some one choose?

Side: No