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Morality is defined by SOCIETY, not religion. Religion tries to press their ideals ON society. In the Muslim world, that is somewhat successful, in the Christian world it meets all sorts of resistance, as in the SCOTUS, and people who want to live FREE. The U.S. was populated largely (originally), by those fleeing religious persecution in Europe. People just didn't like what they were selling!
I was saying the truth about pro choice people which include most Atheists. They support killing our most innocent Babies while Chrisitans fightto save those lives.
You liars keep spewing pure bigoted rhetoric of how Christians are killing people.
This nation is vastly a majority Christian nation. So tell me these people that Christians are supposedly killing.
Oh that's right, you only can ever talk about what supposedly happened thousands of years ago and we are all suppose to believe you.
So tell us all what these so called Christian killers are doing in this nation today? No answer? There never is because you bigots are pure phony liars!
I was saying the truth about pro choice people which include most Atheists.
Do you have a Gallup or a Pew to back this up?
They support killing our most innocent Babies while Chrisitans fightto save those lives.
They aren't technically babies. They are fetuses. Those about which you speak are in most cases tiny undifferentiated bundles of cells hardly larger than the tip of a pen.
Those Christians should find a more noble fight.
You liars keep spewing pure bigoted rhetoric of how Christians are killing people.
Christians have killed people throughout most of their history, which is absolutely true.
This nation is vastly a majority Christian nation.
A vast majority you say?
More like 70%, which is arguably a mid-level majority and on the decline.
So tell me these people that Christians are supposedly killing.
The majority of people in modern society are innocent, of this I do not deny. Some, however, are brutal even to this day.
My statement reflected an historical fact; with changing times and intelligence, morals and respect, the frequency with which the modern Christian commits heinous acts has been reduced massively. No longer are there mobs of rabid Christians slaughtering every Jew they can find, burning to death those who hide in the synagogues or their homes. No longer are hardships blamed upon alleged witches who are then burned to death after a grisly period of torture. No longer are people who deny the trinity or espouse contradictory positions of the Church mutilated and boiled to death.
However, the relative moral cleanliness of the current age does not wipe clean the fact that the history of the Christian religion is marred blacker than tar with evils beyond modern imagination.
Oh that's right, you only can ever talk about what supposedly happened thousands of years ago and we are all suppose to believe you
So tell us all what these so called Christian killers are doing in this nation today?
Care to show me where all the atheist killers are in this nation today? That is, after all, what this debate is intended to discuss. Christians (and other religious groups) tend to be far more rabid: their religiosity gives them justification for savagery.
There never is because you bigots are pure phony liars!
Where is the lie?
Anything of which you are ignorant is a lie?
What a way to go through life. Such hatred broiling within you for anything of which you are ignorant. How sad such a life must be.
You are a liar when you claim Christians are killers and then after being shown your lie, you say..... "The majority of people in modern society are innocent, of this I do not deny"
So you base your bigoted lie on what supposedly happened in the past. Today when we can verify how Christians treat others, you admit they are innocent.
Gee, under your idiotic logic, we should call Democrats as supporting of slavery because during the civi war the Democrat party wanted to keep slavery legal.
Can you even grasp how deceitful you are by calling Christians killers?
The real question is why I have wasted my time addressing such a liar as you.
So you base your bigoted lie on what supposedly happened in the past.
He gave you links to recent events. Stop lying.
So you base your bigoted lie on what supposedly happened in the past. Today when we can verify how Christians treat others, you admit they are innocent.
The majority of Atheists don't kill anyone and you say they do. He recognizes that you shouldn't condemn all Christians for the actions of a few.
The reason why Atheists bring up that Christians kill people is because believing in Jesus doesn't prevent you from killing someone. The only way you know if a Christian won't kill someone is if they didn't kill someone.
I corrected you for cherry picking. You cherry picked the part where he said throughout history and ran with it. There is no reason to continue pointing out that he didn't say anything like what you are suggesting over and over again for every statement you posted.
What kind of fool gets painted by what people do today, decides on his own that he is being painted by what happened hundreds of years ago, gets corrected about his incorrect decision, then continues not understanding that he is being painted by what is happening today all while complaining that only fools paint people based on what happened hundreds of years ago, and also complaining that his own thoughts about painting people for what happened hundreds of years aren't being acknowledged?
Did you even click on a single of those links I gave?
You are a liar
What is a lie?
Is a lie a statement which is objectively untrue? What is objective truth? If objective truth is reality as it is commonly accepted, then I am not a liar, for I have said nothing but the truth as it is commonly accepted.
Is it a statement of something subjectively untrue? This seems to be your interpretation of the word "lie;" by that definition, I am arguably a liar, because you believe what I am saying to be untrue. That does not make it a lie in the traditional sense, just in your warped mind.
you claim Christians are killers
It isn't like I went around saying that all Christians are killers. Indeed, my mother is a Christian. My grandmothers were Christians. My sister and most of my family are Christians. To the extent of my knowledge, none of them have ever killed anybody.
However, Christianity does have a dark history which involves countless many grisly and unwarranted murders. Not all Christians - not even a majority of Christians - have committed murder; however, murder has at various times been either sponsored or endorsed by the "Church".
then after being shown your lie, you say....."The majority of people in modern society are innocent, of this I do not deny"
Considering that "modern society" encompasses the last two centuries or so, it is only a tithe of Christianity's existence. Throughout most of that other 90%, Christianity has been brutal (hence the use of the adjective medieval to indicate barbaric violence: they weren't atheists back then). Even in the last two centuries, many more unforgivable actions have been committed in the name of the Christian God.
So you base your bigoted lie on what supposedly happened in the past.
Do you deny the ability to know anything of the past? What of this do you find so challenging to accept?
I suppose the world didn't exist until the moment you came into consciousness.
Can you even grasp how deceitful you are by calling Christians killers?
Can you even grasp how ridiculous you sound right now?
The real question is why I have wasted my time addressing such a liar as you.
Because you know deep down that my words are the truth. You are simply too willfully ignorant to acknowledge it.
you refused to copy and paste my analogy to Democrats supporting slavery a few hundred years ago!
'cause it was stupid. It is a non sequitur argument with little regard for the ever-changing political situation. Politics changes; the political party of the 1800s is very, very different than the political party of today.
On the contrary, religion is based on one unchanging book as so many Christians like to point out. Catholics believe in Papal infallibility, meaning that there is no wrong in the deeds and words of the Pope: he is immune from typical human error. Popes have been responsible for leading the charge to many years of warfare as well as heretic-burning. Religion is supposed to be unchanging. Politics is supposed to change. You can't compare apples and oranges.
Why don't you try going back to that last argument, the one you totally disregarded with this argument which I am not disputing. I made a lot of good points, none of which you seem even to have read.
If you are on a debating website, debate!! This is not a place to simply call people a "liar" and give no evidence whatsoever other than more ridiculous insults as evidence to your claim.
Seeing how you don't even try to give any kind of argument, I have decided you are nothing but a good-for-nothing troll.
I shall say it again: this is a debating website. It is not a place for fallacy and contumely but for logic and respect, both for your fellow debaters and for the facts. If you refuse to acknowledge the facts that are presented to you, you are not debating but merely screaming yourself red in the face like a little child. It takes a certain maturity to understand that the world isn't going to come running to make you feel better every time something happens that you don't like. So either debate or leave.
Don't worry, I am learning very quickly to never waste my time debating you. When I see your rhetoric, i wll try to ignore because there wil be no getting through your bigoted brainwshing.
Do you also paint all Muslims by the actions of some Musim terrorists?
Do you not understand that this is exactly the point?
Stereotyping is ignorant. To disparage all Muslims for the deeds of a small minority is no different than to disparage all Christians for the deeds of a small minority.
But, if you recall my very first post on this debate, I objected to calling atheists "murderers" because Christians and Muslims are well-known for having a violence history: it is likewise ignorant to call atheists murderers.
The only group of people whom you can pretty safely refer to as "murderers" are guys sitting on death row.
Okay, No. Atheist do not want to murder people. Every type of belief or religion have there crazy people who do horrible things. Do not group all of them together just because one messed up.
I wont. By the way, Atheists don't have a "religion". You have far more religious nuts killing people than atheists. David Koresh, Jim Jones, Adolph Hitler, ISIL, , the "Crusaders", the San Bernardino bunch, etc.
"By the way, Atheists don't have a "religion" ... of course you do ... I D E O L O G Y that man is the highest authority and is the determiner of right and wrong belongs to the atheist
murder being wrong (according to you) is just your opinion ... to another might be just fine .. especially in the animal world .. as an atheist you ARE an animal .... right ??
"Would you be happy if someone killed your mom or someone you love." < indeed from my platform ... however we are discussing yours
btw: ... who decides which animals can be killed and which animals cannot be killed by other animals ?
also: how many babies (via atheist ology) are murdered in the womb each day .... up to 3,000 ?
According to laws and the human rights, which are done by people. Religion is not bring in those laws in the most civilized countries, which have a separation of religion and state.
Just because something is natural, does not mean it's right. Just because something it's unnatural, does not mean it's wrong.
Whats up with the intimidating dots ? They are nightmare inducing.
I don't know how to write a post that consists of only a few words without receiving:
The minimum argument length is 50 characters. The purpose of this restriction is to cut down on the amount of dumb jokes, so we can keep the quality of debate and discourse as high as possible.
You mean we support killing organs. Also, You finally decided to reply to me ? I thought that would never happen. Its good to see you finished throwing a fit over our last debate.
No one forced that women to have unprotected sex. She freely chose to take the risk of that so called slavery. She chose to take that risk and then when she gets pregnant, she wants to take the easy road by ending a life. She should have absolutely no right to end another's innocent life unless her life is in danger.
It's sickening in this self love culture how it's the Baby's fault for the choices made by the mother.
I'm sorry did you just completely forget about this thing called rape? That is unprotected and forced sex. Funny how you just happened to "forget" about that scenario, or is it, in your opinion, the woman's fault?
You are showing your age. Where on earth did you get anything about rape from what I said? AS ALWAYS, pro choice people instantly bring up rape or life of mother to excuse their support for all the vast majority of other abortions. It is truly sickening to listen to the same old tired rhetoric. SCARE THE WOMEN! Make them believe that pro life people will deny them extreme case abortions. Pro life people would love nothing more than to have pro choice groups compromise and allow abortions for only the extreme cases such as rape and life of mother, but of course people like you would NEVER stand for it.
Here are the facts about rape in case you are ignorant of those facts. A woman can use emergency contrceptive pills up to five days after rape to prevent conception.
To listen to the pro choice groups, women have no other options to prevent pregnancy from rape but abortion.
Why is it pro choice groups say very ittle about how easy it is to prevent pregnancy fter a rape. Must be if they did so, it would take way their main excuse for keeping the killing of living growing Babies legal. They would lose their rape excuse if they educated women. How sick is it that they would rather keep women ignorant to how easy it is to prevent rape pregnancies.
I didn't get anything about rape from what you said, which is exactly my point. Too bad you don't have enough of a brain to figure that part out. Also it is quite obvious that you have never been raped before or have known someone who has been raped. So until that happens, your points are invalid.
LOL, I guess you just ignore the english language when you read something and then just twist the entire post and attack the one telling you the facts. Is it time to ignore you?
No, you ban people who won't agree with you. You've already said as much to me in the past. And considering how that is just about everyone here, you should find a different website, clearly.
Gee, again I say , must be most people agree with m because there are only a few people I continaully ban. But keep spewing your total deception AS ALWAYS! In order to explain why you get banned, you must say I do it to all people who dissgree with me.... LOL,
Ok I have had enough punishment wasting my time with you. Good night. You will have to go and find another Conservative to hang on their every word so you can insult them on every single post they make. CAN YOU SPELL DYSFUNCTIONAL?
Gee, again I say , must be most people agree with m because there are only a few people I continaully ban. But keep spewing your total deception AS ALWAYS! In order to explain why you get banned, you must say I do it to all people who dissgree with me.... LOL,
Which is why the people people who currently post on your debates are Grenache, who is new, and HighFalutin, who is on the right. "Most people", good one.
Ok I have had enough punishment wasting my time with you. Good night. You will have to go and find another Conservative to hang on their every word so you can insult them on every single post they make. CAN YOU SPELL DYSFUNCTIONAL?
*Continually, the "u" comes before the "a". Funny how that works. Seems you can't spell either. Moron. Sad when you have a 16 year old correcting your spelling. Get a life. Oh, and if you want to ban me so bad, go right on ahead. I think you like arguing with me, though. If you were gonna ban me, you would have done it already.
The last moronic things people on the Left do is point out spelling errors. When you never have an intelligent response to what I say, you just insult. So typical of those on the Left.
I keep forgetting your age, and then it is all clear.... another conditioned youth. Now when you get in College, be sure to join some Leftwing group that wants to call everyone homophobes if they are gainst Gay marriage ok?
I would ask you how stupid you can get, but I fear you would take it as a personal challenge. I'd say that I am a pretty intelligent 16 year old, given that I took college level courses since the 4th grade. Also, in case you forgot I am entitled to my opinions as you are to yours. Never once did I insult you, or is that what you have to tell yourself when you are losing an argument to a teenager, lol. Also, correct spelling is important if you want people to take you seriously. By the way, *against.
You have insulted me so therefore you are also a liar. How about you just ignore me because I have better things to do then debate people who have yet to live life, who have never paid property taxes, who never supported a family, etc.
When that day comes you wll finally wake up to reality and vote for the GOP.
Were it not for all the people living off Government, or for all the minorities and feminists , or for all the young voters still living off someone else, Democrats would never get elected. You know a party by who supports them.
First of all don't presume to tell me who I will eventually vote for. It's a free country and I will vote for the Democrats when I am old enough. Second off, insults and lies are two totally different things. Congrats, on making no sense...again. I would love to ignore you and it seems you don't want to talk to me either, but let me ask you this....If you don't want to talk to me so bad, why do you keep responding? If you truly didn't want to talk to me you would have ignored me by now. If you truly don't want to talk to me, you won't respond after you read this. :)
You are correct, I keep forgetting your age but i will try not to make that mistake again. I guarnatee you if you ever make something of yourself and have a decent paying job, a home, etc. you will most likely vote for the GOP because they won't treat your money like it it theirs!
Democrats are such arrogant control fanatics, they have the nerve to believe they know better how to spend your money then do you. They will use your money to buy votes for chronic able bodied lifetime welfare users and never require them to find a job.
Unless of course your children want to live off the charity of others and then you might still vote for the corrupt Democrats.
My hope is that you teach your future children to have some pride and not expect others to support them. Have a great life.
You are correct, I keep forgetting your age but i will try not to make that mistake again. I guarnatee you if you ever make something of yourself and have a decent paying job, a home, etc. you will most likely vote for the GOP because they won't treat your money like it it theirs!
So part of the time you say that Democratics are rich elitists, and the rest of the time all rich people are goign to vote GOP. You can't even get your generalizations straight.
Democrats are such arrogant control fanatics, they have the nerve to believe they know better how to spend your money then do you. They will use your money to buy votes for chronic able bodied lifetime welfare users and never require them to find a job.
Must I provide quotes of you saying where tax dollars should be spent?
Unless of course your children want to live off the charity of others and then you might still vote for the corrupt Democrats.
Or if, you know, they disagree with Conservatives ideologically. How dastardly. You are arrogant enough to tell people how to think.
My hope is that you teach your future children to have some pride and not expect others to support them. Have a great life.
My hope is that they teach their children to not insult everyone with different opinions. I also hope you taught your children that, but I'm not going to hold my breath.
I think you meant Republicans are such control fanatics. And have a great life back at you. (By the way, this whole "if you make something of yourself" shit doesn't fly with me, I think you meant to say "when you make something of yourself". I am making something with myself, and I am so glad it's being the opposite of you.)
Well its been a couple years, and I'm a young voter, who IS NOT living off someone else. Thought you'd like an update all these years later, I'm living in reality, and believe it or not, because if I remember correctly, your brain and ego could only take so much, I still think the GOP is a piece of trash, especially looking at the President you guys elected. Such a silly man. Hope all has been well for you though besides that lol
Nothing wrong with getting help from the government.....you got a problem with the whole generation of kids going to college right now? We all get some form of government assistance fucking idiot. You are truly the dumbest human on this Earth, besides Donald Trump of course. And I do provide my own health insurance as a matter of fact, but you seem to enjoy jumping to conclusions. Thats kind of your thing. And I'm 20, last time I checked you're legally an adult at 18. So I guess, I'm an adult and you're just a moron. No shame, though. Its not necessarily your fault, maybe it was how you were raised. Unlike you, I'm gonna try not to judge. Have a good one. ✌️
I said when you grow up, get a job, pay taxes, get married, have children, you will probably become Republican because you will be sick of enabling able bodied dead beats who want to make a career living off your sweat!
You just judged everyone who lives off the government. Some people just need the help. Some people do just take off the government and don't actively look for work or for a way out, that much is true. But a majority of people living off the government ARE actively looking for work and to get back on their feet, in ways that aren't corrupt, like your little Republican buddies. Your comments are called judging, I'll admit that I was judging you too. I treat others the way they treat me. And you can keep telling me I'll become a Republican some day all you want; but, I will never agree with the politics and policies of the GOP so save your breath. And I'm proud to be a Democrat so I'm not gonna change. Who knows, maybe some day you'll become a Democrat. Or you could just be content with your political party and let others be content with theirs. And you could also not judge others, because thats just inviting them to judge you bud. Anyway, like I said earlier, but you obviously must not have seen it, have a good one.
I will NEVER become a Democrat and do you know why? ABORTION!
I am not some depraved animal that looks the other way when electing politicians who keep it legal to kill viable babies!
It's truly sickening the lack of moral values in so many millenials. You are the me me generation of self love.
You have swallowed the Left's rhetoric and think your selfish convenience super cedes a viable baby's life. Don't you dare talk about extreme case abortions!
I am talking about killing viable babies for any reason. That separates the GOP from Democrats.
You sit there so proud of yourself saying how you will always be a Democrat. THAT'S SICK when you don't care abut the inhumanity you support.
You believe all the Liberal Professors and all the fake news telling you how Republicans do not care for people, all while these barbaric hypocrites in the Democrat Party have never found an unborn life worth protecting!
Screw your judgmental rhetoric against Republicans who have more humanity in their little toe then you have in your entire body.
If the Democrat Party were pro life and not constantly plaing identity politics, and denying our religious freedom to disagree with Big Brother, I might vote for them. BUT THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN! THEY ARE TOTALLY TAKEN OVER BY EXTREMISTS.
Yes there is something wrong with taking money from tax payers just so you can go to College.
Our nation is over 20 trillion in debt, and it's because of the millions of people who believe they are entitled to other's money.
Socialism has proven to be a complete failure, and these Liberal Socialist Democrats are bankrupting this nation, all to buy votes.
No not all kids get assistance. My children did not get money from tax payers. We knew better than getting in huge debt for that degree.
Some of us live within our means. The reason College costs so much is because Government subsidises it. Universities charge what the market will bare, and with easy Government loans, the Colleges charge WAY TOO MUCH! This ruins it for everyone.
I never said ALL kids get assistance, I know your Alzheimers probably make it hard to pay attention, but put in a little effort old man. And it doesn't matter what you have to do to attend college, we all do what we have to, to go to college, so we can get degrees, and get good jobs, and fix all the shit that your generation fucked up. Also, I don't recall asking about your children or how they went to college, surprised they even went actually. And one of the things taxpayers pay for is EDUCATION dumbass. A portion of tax dollars IS SUPPOSED to go towards students and education and such. You obviously have zero idea what you're talking about. Also our nation is in debt because the government continuously fucks up. That isn't the fault of students, its the fault of your precious government. Anyway, I head back for a new semester tomorrow so I'm gonna get some sleep, so I can go back and earn my degree, and get a job that will allow me to buy and sell your worthless ass. Goodnight sir, don't get too pissy over there, your old, fragile heart might give out.
Sleep well knowing you support viable late term babies being dismembered for any reason. Go have a love sit in for some mass murderer while supporting the execution of innocent viable babies.
I'd rather support abortion than the GOP who support the rapists that make abortion necessary. Also, I don't participate in sit ins for mass murderers, that seems to be an NRA thing, you know, the gun nuts who significantly fund your political party? How very classy of the NRA to hold rallies in places right after those places suffered mass shootings (Columbine). Also I love how much I'm winning the argument that you had to grasp at straws and bring up something totally unrelated to our argument...abortion, that is. Why don't we talk about gingerbread houses or shopping for shower curtains next? You seem to like random shit. And I knew you wouldn't like my comment about you eventually becoming a Democrat, so what makes it okay for you to comment that I'll eventually become a Republican? Double standard if I've ever seen it. Have an amazing life, don't bother responding, or do, its up to you. This is a free country after all, though you don't seem to understand that in the slightest. Some recommended reading: The Constitution. Anyway, you hate me, I hate you. I'm done wasting my time, and I hope you're done wasting both your time as well as mine. Have an amazing night, and an amazing life at that. And I truly mean that, its been a pleasure debating with you. ✌️
I'm still waiting for you to deny supporting late term abortions of viable babies for any reason while electing Democrats who keep it legal. I will give you credit for not insulting my intelligence with that denial. As soon as I hear you deny it, it's ignore time.
I will not waste time debating liars.
I will never ban a person when they are honest with what they support. The bigoted fools on this site keep trying to say I ban people for simply disagreeing with me. Absolute lie!
So far, you have not been a vulgar deceptive bigot, so I can deal with that. I want you to have a great life, but also know that if you go down this Progressive path of self love, your life might include many self created problems. I would not wish that on anyone.
I hope you someday understand that mankind is selfish and evil, and Big Government is the worst of mankind.
Put your faith in God, not man! Especially not a politician!
I could also wish you a happy life and go on about my existence, but guess what? Conservatives and Christians DO CARE for the least of us and can not so easily ignore what people like you and politicians support.
Because of people like you, the killing of even viable babies for any reason will continue. I can not be so flippant when it comes to issues of humanity.
I wonder if you would have also ignored slavery back when Democrats supported it. It took Republicans to end it!
Funny how your Party is always on the wrong side of humanity.
Case you missed it, we were talking about being Republican or Democrat, and abortion has been the number one issue defining the two Parties for 50 years! I realize you want that issue to go away because it shows your true intolerance and lack of compassion for the least of us.
You can't piously preach about caring for the poor, while supporting No Restriction abortions with your vote. YOU CAN'T!
As per usual you had to bring up extreme case abortions to try and hide what you truly support which is ALL ABORTIONS FOR ANY REASON AT ANY STAGE.
LOL, you Democrat are like clones of each other.
So you go ahead, sleep well pretending to be a tolerant open minded Democrat while supporting the killing of Special Olympic babies simply for being diverse or inconvenient.
Watch those Special Olympic children competing on the track field, and bury your head to the fact that these viable Special needs children are constantly being dismembered in the womb for their diversity. This is how much you truly care for them!
These kids are not what you Democrats would call "normal" people. KILL THEM! THEY LOOK DIFFERENT!
Have a great self absorbed shallow life. I myself have to sleep at night.
None of that made a shred of sense, more proof that you're an idiot. I have no issues with abortions at all, you're 100% correct there, and since abortions can only take place up until a certain stage you can stop with the supporting abortions at any stage nonsense. There is a legal cut off point for how long you can wait to get an abortion idiot. Too bad your mother didn't buy into abortions, would have saved me a lot of time. As for Democrats all being clones of each other, I can say the same for Republicans. You're all sheep sucking Trump's dick, but I shouldn't imply you're a homosexual, it'll either turn you on or make you angry. And I'm very much enjoying my "shallow" life. And I'm sorry that you can't take a hint, I made my last points and politely wished you well, but you just like to argue it seems. Enjoy your worthless life, not one person on this Earth could love someone like you and I hope you are very, very lonely. With the attitude you have, its a viable scenario. Farewell Grandpa!
Now there is the true tmackenzie44. It only take a few posts to bring out the true Liberal who judges Conservatives and Christians.
If you truly believe there are limits to what stage a woman can have an abortion, it truly shows what a great job the Left has done spoon feeding you fake news.
Here are the facts... not that you could care less.
The Democrat Party has prevented the GOP from passing a federal law limiting abortions to 20 weeks (FIVE MONTHS), unless for extreme cases which would still be allowed in late term.
Each State decides for itself what restrictions they have for abortions. There are approximately nine states that allow No Restriction abortions for any reason at any stage! THOSE ARE THE FACTS!
Any woman in any State can travel to one of those nine States and get an abortion at any stage!
The GOP has tried to stop this depravity, but the Democrat Party almost unanimously votes down every attempt! THOSE ARE THE FACTS!
Every Democrat politician running for President has declared their support of keeping No Restriction abortions legal! THOSE ARE THE FACTS!
When you vote for these politicians, you are keeping No Restriction abortions legal! THOSE ARE THE FACTS!
You are yet one more ignorant self consumed millennial who looks the other way when electing these barbaric animals. It is people like you who keep it legal to kill viable babies for any reason.
Now go back to your self absorbed world of hating the very Party that is trying to save those viable babies. You are brainwashed by fake news, and could not care less what the facts are.
By the way, every Democrat running for President has declared their desire to end the Hyde Amendment, which has been the aw of the land for decades. This law keeps Government from forcing tax payers to pay to kill babies.
These are the extremists you support, so therefore it makes you an extremist.
Your age is showing and the very reason I said I will wait until you have lived life and are capable of seeing through all the lies from the Left.
Think what you want about abortions, doesn't change my stance on it. I support it, regardless of whether or not my political party does/doesn't. Call me all the names you want. Shows your level of maturity. If I was an extremist, I'd be blowing up federal buildings in Oklahoma City, like your little white supremacist buddy, Timothy McVeigh. I bet you love him don't you? You strike me as a bigot, you a white supremacist?
Yeah, being able to enjoy sex would be called freedom. Most of the time a life isnt even ended in abortion. The majority of abortions occur with a pill that terminates just a fertilized egg. Nothing has even formed yet in most cases. Why does a undeveloped fetus with no independent brain activity whatsoever have a right to be carried to term against the will of the fully developed sentient woman?
Hogwash, unless you mean the hitler and kkk kind of Christians. The Bible says you will know a Christian by their love. The last I knew, killing an unborn Baby, that God says he knows in the womb, is anything but love.
I see what your saying db000. People will do what they can to fight and stand up for what they believe in. All atheists are not murderers. Sure, some might be, just like Muslim, Christian, etc.. Remember, grammar is key! :)
"Christianity teaches that there is an afterlife" ... indeed,
and those headed there admit their sin condition and need of the Savior
"Christianity teaches that there is an afterlife" .... actually Christianity teaches that there is an afterlife AND an after death (eternal torment) ... see Revelation 20 http://dadmansabode.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=740#p740
Again, show me where Atheists "teach" that it is "natural to kill". I am an Atheist, and I think religion is too violent, so I want no part of it.
I AM FOR euthanasia for someone who is suffering. I AM for abortion to SAVE the mother, or, if deformed or otherwise looking at a horrible life. I AM against forcing people to abandon THEIR beliefs so they have to follow YOURS. I AM for peace. Guess I am a scumbag. :<)
What is a soldier kills a terrorist. Is the Soldier a sinner? The terrorist did not threaten them. And do you think it is okay to bomb civilians in the Middle East to defeat ISIS?
Murdering (killing someone who is defenseless or has done nothing wrong) is bad, however, killing (example being defending ones self) is not a bad thing.
Atheism is the lack of religious belief. There is no school or Church of atheism. Atheism just means that you were not brainwashed to believe in imaginary beings that have some sort of power over everything but are not allowed to use it until after you are dead. Most people who kill are people with a religious belief. As an atheist I have no reason to kill anyone. My morality is based on society just as yours is. If you followed religious morality you would have reason to kill as that is the punishment for many things according to most of the religious texts.
So if you're going to say stuff about atheist that are so offencive are you at least gonna get people to argue for it, that's kinda hypocritical because in the bible it says " 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no commandment greater than these." (mark 12:31) which does not only refer to the person living next door, it refers to other humans. yeah i agree murder is wrong but you can't blame the fact he is atheist on it, 29% of people in the world are atheist (or agnostic) and very few of them take to violence over this fact. there are so many more people in the world that have killed for their religion right now let alone in the past when that's all people fought about.
Did he cite atheism as the motive for the crime? Did he mention ANYTHING about his lack of religion in commuting the crime?
If not then this is just cherry picking nonsense. Why don't we look at the planned parenthood shooter instead who said verbatim that he was doing it for god and believed god would forgive him aND wanted him to do it? That's a christian shooter. I thought they were supposed to value life?
The person who created this debate must be an idiot. There is no relevance between the shootings in Hesston and atheism. I guess stupid people have stupid ideas what else can be said.
You know what we really should be talking about? Energy drinks. They are awful for you and should be banned in all 76 states. This should go into action.
Well "The Obama" will call for more gun control even though the shooter was black and had a criminal background which "The Obama" will never admit ! Amazing is it not how felons will get their hands on guns ! Yet if government can just control the guns in the hands of law abiding these situations will never happen !
I am sorry, but believing that a God exists has nothing to do with not murdering. Especially with the Christian God that says everyone sins and murder is just another sin.
GOD / SATAN AND ANGELS . . . . Someone has said that the most important thing about you is what comes to your mind when you think about God . . . It’s true .. What you believe about God has serious .. long-term impact on how you live .. every thought .. word .. action .. and attitude is ultimately a reflection of your beliefs .. right or wrong .. about God and His character . . With so much at stake .. there’s really no more important pursuit than sorting out reality from myth and knowing God for who He really is . . . John MacArthur takes you to the Bible for an accurate .. in-depth portrait of God Himself .. as well as the other powerful inhabitants of the supernatural realm .. Satan .. demons .. and God’s invisible army of holy angels ..... http://dadmansabode.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=751#p751
And did that person reveal that people who are happy that people will forever burn in hell whenever they think of God are in good shape? You never have a positive attitude when you discuss God.
Tell me again how many people were about to be killed by the Israelites, but God stopped them, stating that murder is wrong?
Oh, wait, now I remember: God ordered them to commit genocide and to kill vast numbers of people.
Which Bible are we talking about here? The Gothic translation, from which Wulfila left out martial references fearing his people were already too violent? Maybe the Jefferson Bible, without the supernatural? Or is it the KJV, with death and more death and murder and more murder, often sanctioned by God?
Which is fine. But you claimed to know what God's judgement would be. Seeing as how only God hears our final account according to Christianity, that means that you have zero legitimacy in trying to usurp God's role as the only Judge.
"But you claimed to know what God's judgement would be" ... well, if you are a rejector of Jesus Christ ... your Judgement will indeed be the Lake of Fire < according to God's decree < Biblical Rev 20
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"Seeing as how only God hears our final account" < the longer you wait and the more truth you reject ... the harder your heart will become .... you have no guarantee of tomorrow .... your eternal fate may soon be sealed ... Romans 1
But there are so many aspects of this that you are ignorant of. You do not know if, in their hearts, they do truly believe. You do not know if, at some point between now and death, they will start to believe.
You simply do not know. Which means that when you claim to know God's judgement, you are both going against the Bible and sinning, out of an arrogant desire to feel powerful over others, which means you are also guilty of pride (another sin).
Goes back to the whole "Judge not lest ye be judged" thing.
so tell me on this day .... have you received the truth that Jesus is God the Son ... your only way to eternal life ... or do you reject this statement ......... y/n
yup !! ... Great White Thrown for you ............. sorry :) ... maybe you should learn what will happen to you after that final sentence ... man's last day in God's court .. part 1 of 3 .. http://dadmansabode.com/b/27/272005.mp3
That's WHY I am not religious. Religion teaches us to hate people we wouldn't normally hate.
I have one on here who is convinced I hate everyone, including "GOD". As Voltaire said: "GOD is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh."
I just don't like all the violence that comes from religion. I don't care how things were "created" (happened), I can't worship a cruel "god"!
He didn't leave any actual argument on this website so I had to figure out what he was talking about. That's the only reason because I used to click his links and this was the first time it actually pointed to the thing he thought would help his argument. Even a blind squirrel can post a supporting link.
