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Anyone who believes a man was born from a virgin and that the all powerful God would allow a little horned bastard to run around constantly snub the almighty creator - u are victims to evil mysticism. Humans will never advance to the next level until we overcome this antiquated mentality.
Atheists is smarter because they dont relyon beliefsto get things dont they just do it that is why we are here today. Persons put god aside and they think about themselfs to believe themselfs we dont see god because there isnt a god there are just us and us alone
Let's check out your English Grammar for clues about how smart you are. Atheist should be followed by are, not is, in your first sentence. After that, the spelling and grammar is so poor I will not comment on that sentence again.
In the second sentence, you fail to capitalize God' name...or you are too dumb to grasp the concept of God being a person. In that run-on sentence, you express your futile philosophy......the philosophy of a fool.
Youre such a little pussy. Thats how you defend your religion on a debate site? Crying about grammar? And STILL insisting people capitalize your god's fucking name.
Honestly why are you even here? What is the point of being on this website when all you do is edit posts for grammar ON THE FUCKING INTERNET (the place where grammar goes to die) and dodge the debate entirely over capitalizing a letter when you know damn well the other person is talking about the same exact thing you are.
Nobody threatened you, genius, you are wanting a fight. People like you tend to lose their teeth when young. I only asked you a question, trying to get you to see that you are opposing yourself and bringing consequences on yourself.
Why I thought you could be decent in differing, I do not know....but I do know this; if you control yourself in general society the way you do here, you are going to get knocked down.......and if you go too far, which you may have already done, you will wake up in the fire of Hell and I honestly feel sorry for you though in Heaven one day I will forget you.
Yeah that would be why i have an anonymous name online. Specifically so i can call people like you dipshits because i cant do that in real life. Youre starting to catch on to how the internet works. keep it up bud
Maybe you will realize that you are actually opposing yourself; going against your only chance of survival which is God's mercy. You can know Him through Jesus Christ who took your dying to bring you out of the prison of your sins. You will have eternal death or eternal life, believe it or not. I hope you get saved.
It's probably best that I avoid reading your posts as you have a problem with foul mouth which I don't want polluting my eyes. If you get saved, I will know about it in Heaven if not here.
Just answer the question, moron. Do you have all of your teeth in your mouth? If you do or not, people who act and talk like you tend to lose their teeth long before they wear them out. I have all of my teeth for two reasons: I know when it's not worth it to interact with a guerilla like you, and I know how to stop one who tests me.
You're just a beast, I have tried to reason with you like a man and all you end up doing is cussing like a devil being thrown into the fire of Hell which is really all you are if you won't repent of your sins and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ who is God the only Savior...you have no hope without Him and you have no power over me you moron..you could only send me to Heaven.
If you don't rely on beliefs, then you do not accept checks as payment. If you don't rely on beliefs, then you carefully inspect a chair to be sure it will hold you before you sit in it. Everybody relies on beliefs whether or not they have good reason.
You don't see God because you are separated from Him by your sins.
You will see Him on Judgement Day, and you will know Him as your Savior or as your Judge, and you will know He is Jesus Christ.
If you do not fear God, then you have foolishness instead of knowledge.
First off, I'd like to point out that you are actually voting for the side of the argument you clearly oppose. So there's that.
But most importantly, those circumstances which you list about the checks and chairs are entirely inappropriate analogies to religious philosophy and belief structure. If you believe in God because you also believe in checking if a chair supports you before you sit in it, then your belief in God is superfluous and whimsical at best.
Your religious principles are not based on anything but your own beliefs. The reason that it is so easy to claim that atheists are more intelligent than Christians is because Christians are typically so closed minded to education. There are true believers and then there are persons who have been indoctrinated since birth and literally are not intelligent enough to see beyond their indoctrination. I'm sorry to say that it appears that you fall into the latter category. You have not come by your beliefs yourself, you are just spouting things that have been told to you your entire life. You really should try to suspend your indoctrinated beliefs for a few weeks and do some legitimate research, both internally and externally, and try to find faith that way. Maybe you will find absolute faith, but maybe you will not. Unfortunately most persons are not intelligent enough to see beyond those precepts forced upon them at birth and through their upbringing.
That last statement is the entire reason behind religious wars and fanaticism. It's also the reason I believe atheists, as a whole, are more intelligent than Christians, Muslims, Jews, or any other religious beliefs that were forced upon others since birth. The actual intelligent Christians/Muslims/Jews/Etc. are the ones who searched and found religion on their own. The majority of atheists were born into religious cultures, as most persons in the world are, and were smart enough to see religion objectively and to take actual stock in it instead of blindly believing what their parents, friends, or community told them to believe.
Finally, you don't even seem to have a grasp on Christianity yourself. The Old Testament preaches fear in God. That belief is mostly centered in Jewish ideology. Most theists, including nearly all Christian sects, do not proscribe to a fear of God, but instead they preach a love of God. Secondly, you stated that a previous poster did not capitalize the word "God" because they did not see God as a person. Well, that statement just makes you seem like a huge idiot. God is not a person. No religion in the world sees God as a person. God, or Jesus Christ, or Allah, or whichever deity you worship, is ALWAYS considered a higher power above that of a common man. The fact that you imbue the God you believe in with human characteristics in itself proves your lack of intelligence. If the only way you can perceive God is as a human being, then I'm sorry, you are so extremely narrow minded that your opinions can hold no weight in this discussion, as this discussion will eventually exist on a level that you simply cannot comprehend. It's ok, it's not your fault that you lack innate intelligence. Most people do lack this quality. But if you are going to try to espouse your beliefs on others, try to do so objectively.
Thank you for your long and detailed response. I'm sure your intention for everybody reading is that they obtain the same freedom you enjoy. God wants you to be free, so you are free even to slander His name and insult His character and the intelligence of those who know Him by His name, Jesus Christ who died for our sins to save all who trust in Him from eternity in the fire of Hell.
Please do not take my comments the wrong way. My intention is to show you for your own benefit that it is good to believe God can and will save you from your sins. If you insist you cannot be or do not need to be saved, you will be as you are now: lost. God wants you to be saved and have eternal life, and He did for you what you could not do for yourself: He paid in full with His own life's blood for your sins. The Innocent One, Jesus, died for you and me who are the guilty ones who deserve to suffer forever in Hell as enemies of our Creator. He conquered death by His resurrection and has the desire and ability to bring you up out of it's prison; it's prison which is imposed by necessity of your sins. You can be forgiven, pardoned, set free, saved from your sins, your dying, and the fiery torments of Hell's prison which we sinners all deserve.
The explanation of the reality of faith exercised by yourself is simple. You believe that I will read your words, so you work to put them forward for me. You are moved by faith based on the evidence of what you have seen....me and you talking back and forth to others so you believe you can talk to me. Now here we are. Yet this faith is not a sure hope as we do not know we will both be here in time to communicate, we do not know that our computers or the internet will be functioning but we hope that all will be good so that we can communicate. We believe all will be good and so we type and read each other....by faith we work to communicate. Faith is based on things that we know to be true. You believe God does not care about you, so you have no faith in God and you do not seek to know Him, you refuse to trust Him. You cannot come to God but by first believing He is God and that He rewards those who honestly and diligently seek Him....and such honesty must be admitting that you have sinned against Him and deserve His punishment rather than His blessings. If you will be honest, you will find Him merciful as He delights to show His love, his tender mercies, His desire for you to know and have all the best of life beyond all you can imagine.
I do not know what you mean by "religious principles", so please correct me if I am wrong in assuming that you are referring to some kind of ethical behavior by which a person feels they are good enough to be exempt from punishment in death. As far as I have been able to determine, religion is what a person does while reality is knowing what God has done for us; a reality which you apparently deny. In your denial of such reality, you replace God with yourself and believe you are exonerated in death or you need no excuse so your death is meaningless other than the end of your time in your supposed God-less reality. You live by your faith and you act accordingly as your faith makes you feel that you are free to do whatever you please without fear of permanent repercussion.
For a person to say that Christians are closed minded to education is a strong indicator of the ignorance and closed mindedness of that person. Most of the institutions of higher learning as well as most medical and charitable organizations were founded by Christians. This is very easily documented. If you are unwilling or unable to prove this for yourself and you want to be sure that your statement implying Christians are against education is not wrong I can provide you with some indisputable reference sources showing the beliefs of the founders of the best known humanitarian institutions around the world and especially in Europe and America.
What a real Christian is against will be evil. Lies are evil. Evolution is a lie which births all kinds of evil in individuals and the world. There is an agenda of mass murder behind the promotion of evolutionary beliefs, and such beliefs are based on nothing but the desire of sinners to believe they are exonerated in death. Spare me your dozens of points of evolutionary indoctrination which you have been spoon fed since you were a little child before you could even read and the pictures of monkey-like critters morphing into people after dinosaurs died out. You chose to believe that story. I tried to believe it, my parents seemed to think it was an okay story.....but I never could quite believe it. I had to believe that outside this box of reality in which we exist, God is there. It is you who is holding a closed mind, a mental block wall behind which you feel you cannot be over-ruled by God. You are wrong and you are over-ruled, death proves it and you are a fool if you think you will not be in judgement executed by God.
Atheism is the number one killer by means of war. Wars in the name of religion are the number two killer. The problem is not belief in God or non-belief in God, the problem is evil in the hearts of men. You can debate whether or not atheist regimes have brought more death than regimes which hold faith in God but still it is the evil in the hearts of men which is the root of war.....and your heart is full of it.
From beginning to end, your comments progress into more and more childishness so I will leave you with this fact: Jesus Christ is God incarnate who died for your sins so that if you will believe on Him and receive Him as He is (God the Creator who because of your sins became God the Only Savior), you won't have to spend eternity as you are now dying...in the fire of Hell but rather have eternal life.
How do you arrive at your opinion concerning emotional intelligence?
People do not usually believe in things they have no evidence to support unless there is some kind of emotional payoff involved. Christians believe in God because they want to believe in God, not because the evidence compels them to believe in God. In other words, Christians cannot control their emotional needs. For them, the peace of mind Heaven and God provide is more important than a cold analysis of the facts.
That’s not unreasonable. However, I would contend that many religious people believe they have evidence. Muslims believe there are no discrepancies in the Koran for example. Some people have had personal experiences that lead them to religion. This isn’t reproducible, but it is evidence to them.
IQ scores and political polls are two completely different things you tremendous tard.
Side note, no scientific poll had hillary up by anything more than 5 points. WITH a 5 point margin of error. RCP had an average of multiple scientific polls and they had hillary up by only 3 points for months before the election. Again with a +/-5 point margin of error that means a 2 point trump victory was always statistically possible.
And if we look at the results this polling is actually pretty spot on. Hillary didnt win, no, but she did get like 3 million more popular votes. Trumps victory was an electoral college one. Population wise the numbers match up.
What youre referring to is the tremendous over-estimation of her victory which was done by the MEDIA. They were taking unscientific snap polls done on their websites and then getting massively skewed results because they dont have a random sample. And then they were running with pundits and their own made up guesses. When you heard "90% chance clinton wins" from the NYT that number was 100% manufactured. That was just their OPINION of who they thought would win. And theyre fucking idiots with zero finger on the pulse of the american public.
So please dont blame scientifc polling groups and universities ect who actually do polling by the books and yield consistently accurate results.
It means that in order to have the concentration needed to be a "genius" about something, you must be a dumbass at most everything else. Would you ask a "genius" how to pick up women, cook, please a woman in bed, load a gun, make a fire without any human tools? Nope. Why? Because in reality, they're dumber than a jackass licking its balls.
That is completely made up. You pulled that entirely out of your ass. What youre describing is savant syndrome. Which is a form of autism. Those people can be brilliant in one area but lack social skills elsewhere.
Side note, no scientific poll had hillary up by anything more than 5 points. WITH a 5 point margin of error. RCP had an average of multiple scientific polls and they had hillary up by only 3 points for months before the election. Again with a +/-5 point margin of error that means a 2 point trump victory was always statistically possible
The mainstream press must have missed it. They reported much higher.
And if we look at the results this polling is actually pretty spot on. Hillary didnt win, no, but she did get like 3 million more popular votes. Trumps victory was an electoral college one. Population wise the numbers match up.
And if the polls were based off of popular vote, and reality is based off of electorates, these people are clueless retards. Of course that goes without saying. These are the same geniuses who gave the "Woman of the Year Award" to a man...
Pretty simple. Poll the states and counties rather than the national "popular vote" dumbass. Would you like me to teach you your abc's next? How about how to wipe your ass? Perhaps you'd like a documentary on how to comb your hair?
What youre referring to is the tremendous over-estimation of her victory which was done by the MEDIA
True. I watch them simply out of morbid amusement. These same clowns were in asylums when I was young because they are emotionally unstable drama clowns assumed to be unable to take care of themselves.
So please dont blame scientifc polling groups and universities ect who actually do polling by the books and yield consistently accurate results.
Excuse me while I don't trust "results" from liberal colleges who discriminate against anyone not in the tribe, silence speech with intimidation and violence, systematically discriminate against Asians, despite their having the highest SAT scores, and who can't get funding unless their results match the party line...
Excuse me while I don't trust "results" from liberal colleges
But you trust results from bodybuilding threads and random Christian blogs? Go figure. Lucky we have these completely neutral Christian blogs to protect us against the heinous bias of college professors, huh?
You are the actual living personification of double standards.
You just called one of your puppets "brother" while having dialogue with yourself, claimed Conservatives should be drowned, and then claimed the American media, which is liberal, is "brainwashing kids once they're old enough to watch tv."
I see you decided to bring Quantumhead back out to play.
Lucky we have these completely neutral Christian blogs to protect us against the heinous bias of college professors, huh?
We don't need Christianity to expose your religious cult. It exposes itself by being full of drama queens who don't understand subtle propaganda. And in an ironic twist of fate, you claimed America brainwashes...
Well, if it's not the right running the media or academia...
You demanded more and you were given a list of links all saying the same thing. And? You couldn't handle it, so you are scrambling to discredit one of many in a failed attempt. You reak of desperation.
Maybe you should be the first preacher of your Conservative drowning cult and get it started.
Notice i said polling groups and universities. Some of which are republican polling agencies. Trump himself had a polling agency work for him during the campaign.
For the most part, Atheists and Christians have equal intelligence. However, like many theists, Christians are more prone to reject new ideas, along with any evidence that supports them, so that old ideas can be preserved. This behaviour holds Christians back in some areas.
I don't find it useful to point out who happens to be smarter because I doubt anyone would be willing to change their mind while they're being called dumb but the main ways intelligence is measured is by IQ tests and level of education achieved. Both of these things are negatively correlated with religiosity so as a statistical fact atheists seem to be smarter but there may be other aspects of intelligence that are harder to measure that Christians would score better at. Who knows
God this is so vague. If, here, intelligence refers to IQ, then seeing as how a vast majority of christians assert that the the biblical god exists (mostly with horrible inductive arguments) and that the bible is a good record of history and how the universe works, I would like to argue that the thought proceses and logic of religious people is visibly fallaciousand their intelligence is inferior to atheists who, on an average, scrutinise all assertions before making any decisions or arguments.
In my humble opinion as an extraterrestrial being, I believe that neither are more intelligent.
I am one of the reptilian people, a proud member of salamander culture, I observe you humans daily and I am amazed by the lack of intelligence all parties show.
As you know in salamander culture, genitalia is our way of philosophically and critically ANALyzing your culture. I have to admit, it does not come out good for you people(pun not intended). We estimate that in the following 169 years we will indeed invade your puny little orbiting spherical rock that you call "home" and teach you that no God or lack of God may save you.
However until then our phallus board of DICKtators have reached the conclusion that it's fun to watch you fight each other over fictional deities.
A survey of scientists who are members of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, conducted by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press in May and June 2009, finds that members of this group are, on the whole, much less religious than the general public.1 Indeed, the survey shows that scientists are roughly half as likely as the general public to believe in God or a higher power.
And we both know perfectly well that if the grid collapsed, only conservatives would survive, now don't we Quantumliar? Yes. Yes we do. Conservatives would be eating and living while the safe spacers would die in the woods.
So you offer up bogus sources and then call people stupid when they actually read them
No. I call you stupid because I've warned you one way of how it is that I know your IP address in order to discern your puppets... and you click them anyway...
Are you aware that your very existence is a blight on the legacy of the human race
You just created a debate stating that you should drown conservatives because it isn't your fault they chose to be conservatives, and all amazingly after accusing everyone on the site of being Nazis.
Was that all? Would you like a tissue little girl? Did bronto enter your "safe space"? Did bronto arouse your homo-erotic side? Of course I did. You'd rape a chimp in a cage if you thought you had half a chance.
By the way, avesatanas the lib, just called homosexuality a mental disorder. Go get him quantum! Fetch!
Uh huh. If you didn't click it, you have no idea what it says or did. I know it's hard for libs to grasp but... the site referenced the study. Point? Nomentesticle wanted more citations and got a plethera.
There's no need to be butthurt that skydaddy believers are smarter than you. You should just study more or be born smarter. Go ahead. I'll watch you as you struggle to re-enter your mom's snatch in order to burst out of her like an alien a second time.
I just proved that your claim was false bronto. Are you under the impression that dropping an extremely questionable selection of Christian blogs will change the fact that you've just been busted for lying? You are, aren't you?
Yeah see you have to use non liberal sources or it's fake.
Bronto, you haven't used any sources. You made a claim, I proved the claim was false, and you dropped a bunch of random links at me and left. If your claim was false, then posting where you got the information from won't make it true. There is not a single confirmed Christian in the top ten, much less the six you claimed there to be.
There is not a single confirmed Christian in the top ten, much less the six you claimed there to be
I just provided you 6 or 7 links that refute your claim. And you've shown no proof refuting the links. Don't be butthurt that atheists are stupid. Just study more...and fetch me my slippers.
What do you mean, "one more thing"? Does this deflection mean you are not intending to explain why you have been lying about the religious views of scholars?
I stopped researching after picking out random ones from your link and none turned up as atheists. Amazingly you say Americans are stupid, yet your list is plagued with them.
Paul Allen: Can't find anything of any kind on his religious views.
Christopher Langan: "believes God is real", has an IQ over 200, and is known as the "smartest man on Earth" by many, according to your own link.
It’s a mathematical, philosophical manuscript with a radical view of the universe, a theory of everything. He proposes that all things, including the existence of God, the soul and the afterlife, can be proven using mathematics."
Religion, or lack of, doesn't denote intelligence. Some of the smartest people I know are both religious, atheist and Agnostic. The only issue I have is when someone's belief holds them back from study.
at present, as christian population are more than atheist, obviously christian are smarter. But who knows some day if there will be more atheist than christian. thanks
The size of a population has literally nothing to do with the intelligence of that group. To use the size of a population as a point of emphasis in your reasoning is flawed and nonsensical. Try again.
Says a Progressive cultist who thinks there are 48 genders and that religion is the problem, but can't touch Islam because the liberal messiahs said not to...
And of course, my favorite...Marx, who never labored and lived in the 1800s is an expert on labor...in 2017...
Yeah i have NEVER argued on the topic of gender and sexuality on this website. So its curious how you just assume what i believe. There are 2 genders and then there is gender dysphoria. Which is a disorder. And then there is sexuality which is how you feel toward those 2 genders. Gay vs straight vs bisexual vs asexual.
Thats pretty much the extent of my beliefs on that issue.
I also argue against islam literally all the time. Islam is absolutely not hands off to me at all. Islam is social cancer and just as ass backwards and wrong as christianity.
And thirdly i am not a communist and dont espouse any of marx's teachings at all.
Christians are smarter than Atheists for many reasons. The main one is why would someone that doesn't even believe God created them be smart, they obviously aren't even smart enough to realize God created them
No, my father fucked my mother. Sperm met egg. I grew slowly inside my mother, and nine months later, I was brought out into this world of ridiculous people that don't seem to realize they got to be here the same way.
