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Debate Score:173
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Total Votes:198
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Are Brits just jealous of America?

Yes

Side Score: 83
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No

Side Score: 90

Britain is just mad that they lost the largest empire the world had ever seen and one of their former colonies surpassed them.

Side: Yes
AlexOsb(1) Disputed
1 point

um, what? Why would that sadden a generation that came 100 years after that even happened? I'm not sad about it, no I know is, our Government doesn't seem sad about it. America is only what it is today because of British immigrants sailing over and building the foundations for what you now have. America also build its economy and power through war and corruption, what there to be jealous, or mad, of?...

Side: No
6 points

They sure do complain about us a lot, even though we're allies. I don't really see the point. Maybe they just like to whine.

Side: Yes
4 points

A lot of us don't want to put up with you any longer. UKIP + Nigel Farage FTW.

Side: No
GuitarGuy(6096) Disputed
3 points

That would be a stupid move to lose us as an ally.

Side: Yes
0 points

Really? In a predicament of war the United States would completely obliterate Britain. We have more power than you could possibly fathom.

Side: No
6 points

Everyone wants to hate on the guy on top... until they need that guy to defend them.

Side: Yes
6 points

They don't play fair either. They've been down-voting all of the arguments on this side and upvoting the hell out of all the arguments on the other side. Five upvotes for what may be the dumbest response on this debate... come on! Somebody is offended.

Side: Yes
2 points

I'm not British. I just don't think their jealous of us. Anyway, you can't judge a whole nation based on a few assholes.

Side: No
GuitarGuy(6096) Disputed
2 points

I'm not! I love Britain! I'm just trying to stir the pot. See how popular this debate is getting? I'm actually getting some real arguments going.

Side: Yes
2 points

Why else would they talk crap about us so much? :D _

Side: Yes
1 point

Sadly a lot are. Which is why the majourity of British TV is just American films and documentaries and news items (after all, who doesn't love a story about a school massacre ;) ).

However, I never stop hearing about Americans finding British accents sexy, soo.. :P

Side: Yes
1 point

a lot are

No they are not. I have never met any one who is jealous of America.

British TV is just American films and documentaries and news items

There are tons of originally British stuff on American TV to.

Side: No
1 point

Uh oh! The "no" side got twelve upvotes since the last time I was on! Time to even it up again.

Side: Yes
1 point

If I promise to not bitch about you lot anymore you close this debate?

Side: No
GuitarGuy(6096) Disputed
1 point

Dude, I couldn't care less if you bitch about me, and you shouldn't give a shit about this debate. Plus, getting rid of it would cost people a lot of points.

I honestly don't look at America as being any better than Britain. We're the same if anything. We're all on the same rock, just in different locations. At the time, I just knew how much attention these types of debates get. So don't get offended by it. Your gov't sucks. My gov't sucks. All governments suck! Lets not argue about who is better, because none of them are actually good. Some just appear to be less evil than others.

Side: Yes

In a way they are since they lost the Revolutionary War. There has to be a degree of jealousy with their loss.

Side: Yes

I really don't see what there is to be jealous about... just saying...

Side: No
3 points

As though the most important thing about the people that inhabit those areas is that fact... The average person anywhere is more or less the same as the average person anywhere else. I feel that the question posed is corrosive to healthy thought processes and judgments and has no place in rational debate.

Side: No
GuitarGuy(6096) Disputed
4 points

Ugh... then don't get involved! I'm just trying to stir the pot.

Side: Yes
3 points

Some probably are but not all of us.

Side: No
GuitarGuy(6096) Clarified
1 point

Wait... you're British?

Side: Yes
Vermink(1943) Clarified
2 points

Yes... .

Side: Yes

No, they're just a fine 1st world nation like the rest of Western Europe. If you consider Western Europe fine. The UK and the US get along, but like us they joke about other nationalities.

Side: No
1 point

I like them too... I just don't like all of the unnecessary trash-talking from the British users on this site.

Side: No

In Britain we don't talk trash we talk rubbish.

Side: No
3 points

Or are Americans just jealous of Brits? I believe that is the real question here.

Side: No
GuitarGuy(6096) Clarified
3 points

How often do you hear Americans trash-talking Brits? This is just a retaliatory debate.

Side: Yes
BookBird101(575) Clarified
1 point

They do it a lot on Tumblr.. but I'm neither American nor Brit, so I guess I wouldn't know.

Side: Yes
3 points

The USA is one of the most morally 'ugly' places in the world. They have the death sentence, they lock 'suspected terrorists' up for life without charge, the president is often the person with the most money, if you have ever been arrested (guilty or not) for a crime you'll find it almost impossible to find decent work as employers have access to these records... the list goes on. That's not to mention to dangerous high level of religious extremists there.

Sure there are other countries that also have these problems but that would claim so strongly that they are one of the most advanced societies in the world. I find the USA absolutely terrifying.

Side: No
GuitarGuy(6096) Disputed
1 point

They have the death sentence

Good! If someone takes the lives of ten innocent people, then he deserves to be put to death.

they lock 'suspected terrorists' up for life without charge

Yeah... and you guys have given us plenty of them.

You put "suspected terrorists" in quotation marks... are you suggesting that they aren't even suspected of terrorism? What do we have to gain by imprisoning an innocent person?

the president is often the person with the most money

Do you know how much money our president makes each year? About $400,000. The British Prime Minister makes about the equivalent of $300,000 per year. The Queen of England receives almost $50 million each year! That's a lot of money for someone who is basically just a figure head.

if you have ever been arrested (guilty or not) for a crime you'll find it almost impossible to find decent work as employers have access to these records

Well, no shit. Employers don't have access to your records in Britain? I wonder how many pedophiles are working at preschools over there...

That's not to mention to dangerous high level of religious extremists there.

WHAT!? Where in the hell did you hear that? They're finding more terrorists hiding out in Canada and Britain than they are here.

I find the USA absolutely terrifying.

I guess that means you won't be over here anytime soon...? Lol good. You sound a bit like a drama queen, dude.

Side: Yes
Atrag(5550) Disputed
4 points

Good! If someone takes the lives of ten innocent people, then he deserves to be put to death.

The state should not be able to take anyones life. It should never have this much power.

Yeah... and you guys have given us plenty of them. You put "suspected terrorists" in quotation marks... are you suggesting that they aren't even suspected of terrorism? What do we have to gain by imprisoning an innocent person?

People are imprisoned in the USA because their neighbour said that they are a terrorist, for example. Its better safe than sorry though right.

Do you know how much money our president makes each year? About $400,000. The British Prime Minister makes about the equivalent of $300,000 per year. The Queen of England receives almost $50 million each year! That's a lot of money for someone who is basically just a figure head.

Obama has a personal fortune of about 10 million dollars and this was how he was able to afford to campaign for presidency. UK prime ministers are often upper middle class.

Well, no shit. Employers don't have access to your records in Britain? I wonder how many pedophiles are working at preschools over there...

Employers relating to jobs with children and vulnerable adults submit a form to the government who gives them a list of someones convictions and whether they have been disqualified from working with that group. For most jobs there isn't a criminal record check.

Imagine if you were arrest for something really serious you didn't do. For example you happened to look like someone who murdered a child and you were arrested for it in order to be questioned. However then the police realised that it absolutely wasn't you and released you. You might never be able to find a decent job. Is that far to you?

WHAT!? Where in the hell did you hear that? They're finding more terrorists hiding out in Canada and Britain than they are here.

Christians that believe that morality doesn't exist without God.

Side: No
2 points

................................................................................................... I just think this is a bad question............ but no I don't think that they are, I could be wrong. its kind of like saying China is jealous of Russia or Africa is jealous of Australia................

Side: No
GuitarGuy(6096) Disputed
6 points

Do you have an actual response?

Side: Yes
GuitarGuy(6096) Disputed
5 points

So saying that Britain is jealous of America, is like saying that one country is jealous of another? Uhh... well, duh!

Side: Yes
courtney-0(35) Clarified
1 point

I mean like it just sounds like a general statement. there isn't much to go on from it. besides agreeing that ALL brits are jealous or ALL brits are not.

Side: Yes
GuitarGuy(6096) Clarified
3 points

I never said "all".

Side: Yes
2 points

Why would i be jealous of a country whos government strips their people of their rights and taunts for war in the name of profit. Whos government is controlled by bankers and not the people. A country who elects people like George W. Bush, Bill Clinton and Woodrow Wilson. America (USA) is corrupt to its core and is living off its ego. Jealous implies i am envious of something, and im certainty not envious of America and do so hope Britain never ends up like it. And ill just throw this out there, China is the most powerful country in the world not USA.

Side: No
GuitarGuy(6096) Disputed
3 points

Why would i be jealous of a country whos government strips their people of their rights and taunts for war in the name of profit.

The whole reason America fought for independence in the first place is because Britain was stripping us of our rights... and you guys fought plenty of wars for profit. You ruled most of the world at one time. You guys are also our allies. Just about every war we've been in since the 20th century, you guys have been there alongside us.

Whos government is controlled by bankers and not the people.

How is the British government much different? Hell, you guys still have monarchs! They're more of figure-heads, but still...

A country who elects people like George W. Bush, Bill Clinton and Woodrow Wilson.

And Kennedy, Roosevelt (both of them), Reagan and Lincoln... what's your point? According to you, it doesn't even matter, since we're "ruled" by bankers.

America (USA) is corrupt to its core and is living off its ego.

Every government is corrupt, at least to an extent. You guys are our closest allies. You honestly don't think our governments share similar ideologies? Edward Snowden for example, pointed out the NSA's spying... but he also stated that the GCHQ is worse. That's you guys! The sad thing is that the media would rather blame the NSA and ignore the GCHQ. The big brother spying bullshit will probably decrease over here... but it's just going to get even worse in Britain.

Jealous implies i am envious of something, and im certainty not envious of America and do so hope Britain never ends up like it.

Too late! You guys are more like us than any other country.

And ill just throw this out there, China is the most powerful country in the world not USA.

Did I ever say that America is the most powerful?

Side: Yes
Shadow29(148) Disputed
3 points

Wrong on your first point, the main reason for America fighting for independence is that Britain made it illegal for it to use its free currency that wasn't regulated and controlled and made by banks, and what do you guys do? You create your own currency that is regulated and controlled and made by banks, NOT government banks either. Also the only reason you joined in WW1 and 2 was because of profit same goes for the Vietnam war. The fact that the USA got rid of its gold standard is evidence of the fact that bankers control the USA, amongst more evidence to that point. 9/11 was a completely a false-flag operation contrived by corrupt officials in the US government to further an agenda that strips rights. Exactly how are we like the USA? With media like FOX news im surprised that America is even aware of anything that happens. And for the last point i made, i did so only to educate the Americans who somehow think they are the most powerful country in the world. The fact the USA is hated is not because of jealousy it is because you give us plenty of reasons to hate you.

Side: No
2 points

i thought it was the other way round. :P them trying to copy the British accent and all. ;)

Side: No
GuitarGuy(6096) Clarified
1 point

Wait... have you heard our accents? Britain hates them.

Side: Yes
Atrag(5550) Clarified
2 points

Yes. It sounds like they're trying to swallow something through the nose as they speak (as if there were possible..). Here in Spain USAians love to try and speak Spanish. One of the most common words in Spanish is vale pronounced ba-le. Someone how the USAians manage to pronounce it bauwww-le. At least they get the le right :/

Side: Yes
2 points

yeah. although i don't think America sounded like that a while ago. they only just started it recently.

like speakin' buh' never partin' dem lips too muh'. or pa'tin dem wayy too muh'.

and the nasal shit. gosh the nasal shit. annoying

Side: No
2 points

I am myself British, and I was surprised to see this question as a topic.

Let me firmly weigh in on the side of no, the majority of Brits I'm guessing, are not jealous of America, myself being one of them.

Though please don't get me wrong, I do love America. I enjoy American movies, eat American food and go out drinking on nights out with my American friends. I like the idea of America, the vastness and diversity of your land and wildlife. The beautiful beaches of California and Florida. Your constitution, and the passion to which it is both adhered and protected. The idea that freedom and liberty are at the heart of everything you hold dear, is very admirable and most my fellow Brits I'm sure would agree to their importance to ourselves as well.

Our two countries, as has already been said, are allies. We have a lot in common financially, politically and militarily.

All this being said, please realise, Britain too has a proud history, culture and place in the world.

Please don't forget this very forum is possible due to a British inventor, Sir Tim Berners-Lee, inventor of the internet.

Other British inventions include Carbon Fibre, the steam engine, the reflecting telescope (Isaac Newton), the telephone, the steam turbine, television, passenger railway, the military tank, the jet engine, cement, stainless steel, the electric motor, photography, ATMs.... The list goes on.

Not to mention our musical legends such as Led Lepplin, The Beatles, Rolling Stones, Queen, The sex pistols, Elton John, The Who, Pink Floyd, Black sabbath, Status Quo, Duran Duran, Iron Maiden ect.... The list again goes on.

I could mention literally thousands of things which make me proud to be British. The NHS, Shakespeare, The Royal Family, The white cliffs of Dover, the Angel of the north, Big Ben, The Houses of Parliament...

The point I'm trying to get at is, don't underestimate how glad and content most of us Brits are to be British.

The question 'are Brits just jealous of America' is silly in my opinion. Our nations each have things to be proud of. To be envious of even.

But in the scheme of things, looking across the water, as much as I like and respect the American people, I'd much rather remain on this side of the ocean.

Side: No
GuitarGuy(6096) Clarified
1 point

Dude, you didn't need to type all of that. I only made this debate to get back at an overly-arrogant Brit. I love the British! I just don't like arrogance lol.

Side: Yes

Bad boy! youre up to no good! lemme help. ;) .

Side: No