Are Catholics/Christians blind in this aspect? ( Read description )
There are so many religions out there, the big ones hold large chunks of this planets' population. But they all vary. Every time someone ends up asking me what religion I fall under, I always tell them an Agnostic Theist. To which their automatic response is to ask me if I am an atheist.
An Agnostic Theist means I believe in the possibility of a higher power, I weigh every religion and throw none out the window. Which means I also do not turn a blind eye to certain sciences.
But whenever I ask this Christian/Catholic who accuses me of being an idiot whether directly or indirectly how they feel about the other couple billion people that live on this planet who believe otherwise they always respond with some load of how theres is proven, and the most historically correct and how everything the bible predicts comes true.
Now if I ask them if they know really anything about other religions they usually don't know the first thing about any of them other than that they are wrong.
So tell me is this Catholic/Christian blind?
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Yes, most of them are - however, so are the followers of other religions. A Muslim is most likely going to think the same of a Christian as a Christian thinks of a Muslim, and so on. I've read at least parts of the religious texts of many religions: Taoism, Islam, many mythologies (i.e. Norse, Roman, Greek, Celtic, Native American, etc.), Judaism, satanism, Hinduism, Christianity, Mormonism, etc. Side: yes
We (Catholics) are in this respect, and I think that it stems from jealousy. I came across something interesting in the Catechism that we believe that people truly ignorant of the faith will go to heaven. Which means that from the beginning Catholics are predisposed to go to Hell and that we must overcome. We as humans want others to wallow in our plight and try to insult other religions to make us believe that they won't go to heaven. This is confusing. Side: yes
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I came across something interesting in the Catechism that we believe that people truly ignorant of the faith will go to heaven. Where in the Bible does it say such a thing? Oh, I forgot, Catholics make up their religion as suits their present needs... " Ignorant are those who carry about idols of wood, who pray to gods that cannot save." "Who cannot save". That seems like a "they'll go to hell" proclamation to me. Side: yes
Luke 12:35-48 "Gird your loins and light your lamps and be like servants who await their master's return from a wedding, ready to open immediately when he comes and knocks. Blessed are those servants whom the master finds vigilant on his arrival. Amen, I say to you, he will gird himself, have them recline at table, and proceed to wait on them. And should he come in the second or third watch and find them prepared in this way, blessed are those servants. Be sure of this: if the master of the house had known the hour when the thief was coming, he would not have let his house be broken into. You also must be prepared, for at an hour you do not expect, the Son of Man will come." Then Peter said, "Lord, is this parable meant for us or for everyone?" And the Lord replied, "Who, then, is the faithful and prudent steward whom the master will put in charge of his servants to distribute (the) food allowance at the proper time? Blessed is that servant whom his master on arrival finds doing so. Truly, I say to you, he will put him in charge of all his property. But if that servant says to himself, 'My master is delayed in coming,' and begins to beat the menservants and the maidservants, to eat and drink and get drunk, then that servant's master will come on an unexpected day and at an unknown hour and will punish him severely and assign him a place with the unfaithful. That servant who knew his master's will but did not make preparations nor act in accord with his will shall be beaten severely; and the servant who was ignorant of his master's will but acted in a way deserving of a severe beating shall be beaten only lightly. Much will be required of the person entrusted with much, and still more will be demanded of the person entrusted with more. Those ignorant of the master's will, will not be treated as severely as those who know it. Side: yes
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It is an unfortunate situation. Their doctrine demands that they honour their neighbours, but also suggests that they spread their own religion. It is in this regard that they often ignore the peaceful teachings of (the latter part of) the Bible. They (particularly in the U.S.A) often get quite upset when they are proved wrong, or when it is suggested that some part of their religion is wrong. They are blind, of course. That is implied by their being religious. People often confuse religion with theism. Theism is an honest and justified belief that the universe was created by some power above our own. This has as much to back it up as atheistic assertions (although I am an atheist, I do believe in something, message me if you care to hear the details) and is a legitimate view. Religion, on the other hand, is a device designed solely to twist theism into a method of control. It warps pleasant belief into stubborn, unrelenting conviction. Those who do not submit to this tyranny were branded "heretics", or "witches". Religion is a tool that preys upon fear and ignorance - forcing people to adhere to depraved and perverted rules, rules which the clergy ignore. One of the most heinous crimes it commits is the suppression of human nature and freedom. All religions are possessed of a morbid preoccupation with sex, a problem which has severely warped society's views on the subject. It has come to the point where the media readily portrays violence, but mention a woman's nipples and the mobs reach for their torches, bonfires spring up from the deep and all are consumed with pious fervency, intent on removing this "filth" from places where it may corrupt "sensitive" children. The most disgusting iteration of this perversion is in the U.S, where a boy may join the military and be sent to a violent death before he can legally manifest his passion for a girl. One would think that people would stop and think about this, but even if they do their conclusion will be corrupted by the knowledge that the "sky bully" endorses these stigmas. If the Christian God were a human, he would be forced to answer for his many crimes (including genocide, murder by extension, discrimination, inciting murder and fomenting civil unrest) and would, ironically, be killed in the U.S, the country in which Christians are apparently most extreme. There was purportedly a man who preached peace and love. A man who said "let's be nice to each other". He called for an end to hatred, violence and other such barbarisms. Unfortunately, as would any of the religious when somebody contradicts them, the Jews crucified him. Side: yes
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i was not the one to down point you and nor do i want to argue you, but i agree with you. its annoying when people down vote you but don't argue you. i know i have done this before in my arguing, but i sure don't any more and i have usually gone back and argued them for the sake of arguing. Side: No
Well,for the most part,I would say yes. In Christianity and Catholicism,people normally(but not always)look down on other religions. Many of them believe that their religion is absolute and that 100% of the bible is true. Even though I'm a Christian myself,I disagree with the bible being 100% accurate. I also try to keep an open mind towards every religion,this is mainly because I used to be somewhat notorious with jumping around and trying to find the "right" religion for me. From what I experienced with Buddhism,Judaism,and Islamic,I can honestly say that they too have things they were predicted or teachings that end up being accurate and helpful. Just try to remember that no religion is entirely right,and no religion is entirely wrong. Keep an open mind to all religions and what they teach. Side: yes
I am new to this site, so I am just browsing around at this point, and I found this debate fairly interesting. I thought I would offer a little side note though; An "agnostic theist" is not defined correctly above. Agnosticism regards the existence of knowledge, or lack thereof. Although it is usually used in a way that is synonymous with uncertainty, it actually refers to whether or not one believes it is possible to offer a conclusive answer on said subject. Thus, an agnostic theist is one who subscribes to theism, as in they believe that some deity does exist, but they do not believe it will ever be possible to conclusively decide one way or the other. One can be an agnostic atheist as well, and thus not believe that any deities exist but also not believe it will ever be possible to come to a conclusion on the matter of existence. Side: yes
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I'm a catholic myself and I can say most probably are blind to this stuff. if I see hard evidence I believe it no matter what, I'm a catholic but even I can't believe everything the bible says, I believe what I can see for sure. other religions are ok to me sure I don't know what they are all about but its there religion it doesn't matter to me that they don't have mine I just let them be. Side: Yes
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lol I'm all alone on this side defending my self. but yeah your right, there are a lot of stuck up dumb Christians who are narrow minded. mainly the Catholics (who would of figured having the pope would make you arrogant?). but any way the core believes who actually took time to learn and study other religions and then there own i think aren't blind. i feel i am one of those people. for instance Islam is a branch off of Christianity and the the main problem is that Muhammad said he had a revelation form god saying Jesus is not the the son of man, or even more that he never died. well we know historical that he at least died. so Islam is incorrect. making Islam's revelations from god questionable. also we all know the satanic verse where satin tricked him and that leaves us to wonder? how do we know he did not do it again threw out his life? this aside Islam is also so degrading to women and out siders (for instance no infidels near mecca), also their law the sharia is extremely intolerant and oppressive. and other claims of things like Arabic being the only language god listens to and stuff like that is a turn off for me to join it even if its right. also the contradicting thing where your not supposed to commit prostitution on earth but yet heaven is a celestial orgy with 72 women. how does that work? as for Buddhism. well I'm safe here because its all about finding your 8 noble fold path to tranquility and peace in heaven, and if i mess up ill just get reincarnated again and try over. so Buddhism is not a religion i need to focus on considering that its so open and accepting. meaning i should look to other religions first who arnt. now i know there are other religions but this was a sort of demo to show what i did to see what religion seemed right to me. and i picked Christianity why? well first of all its one of the only religions that are actually historically based. you can fallow the events and see them in history (whether you believe that they happened how the bible says it did is up to you of course). second its the only religion that combines science and religion together (besides Scientology). what i mean is that its a realty religion. that is you are supposed to go to it with reason and logic and question it. i mean you would have to have some knowledge and intelligence to come up with the proverbs in proverbs or when Solomon came up with the cut the baby in half plan to find the real mother. i mean for a feudalistic people that is pretty clever. and that makes me think will maybe these people had a intelligent reason to believe in god and most of them do. also it is a religion that teaches respect for one an other and the huge love one an other thing. as said in Corinthians 13 that explains what real Christan love is. it seems right to me. i know this is a emotional and morality factor here that can be disproved by saying you feel this is right because you live in a mainly Christan culture and blah blah blah, but if my mind feels right with it. i think its a good reason to fallow it. also when Christianity is brought to other alien cultures a lot of people turn and accept feeling too that its golden rule love ideology is right. making me feel that whole idea where we have a basic world morality that god really did put into each man. and also the last thing i think is important is that if I'm wrong, all well nothing happens. but if I'm right then i get paradise. i have every thing to gain and nothing to loose by believing in god. and of course there is more and stuff to prove Christianity, but I'm not ganna right a book here. Side: No
I wasn't planning on a landslide yes fest, but nevertheless we cannot change history. I am glad to see you are so open minded! as for Buddhism. well I'm safe here because its all about finding your 8 noble fold path to tranquility and peace in heaven, and if i mess up ill just get reincarnated again and try over. so Buddhism is not a religion i need to focus on considering that its so open and accepting. meaning i should look to other religions first who arnt. Brilliant. and also the last thing i think is important is that if I'm wrong, all well nothing happens. but if I'm right then i get paradise. i have every thing to gain and nothing to loose by believing in god. There is something to lose, with quite a numerous amount of religious freaks ( by freaks I mean obsessives ) who block out anything that seemingly says they are wrong in any way. Such as evolution, how can one walk through life ignoring what could be enlightening? Side: yes
There is something to lose, with quite a numerous amount of religious freaks ( by freaks I mean obsessives ) who block out anything that seemingly says they are wrong in any way. Such as evolution, how can one walk through life ignoring what could be enlightening? true, but then my argument was a demo of how i look at things and these are fascinating things what we should argue about later. but yes if evolution can be 100% proven, it would be interesting. Side: yes
for instance Islam is a branch off of Christianity ..... I don't think so......... Most of what you are saying I agree with. (Don't take me to court with this.) DaWolfMan, I think that you would be considered a Unitarian Universalist. I know a few people who belong to this religion, and seems quite reasonable. I won't tell you I agree with it whatsoever, but I definitely respect this. Side: No
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Well how should I know? I don't know every christian in the world. Saying that ALL Christians are closed minded is... well... CLOSED MINDED! And no, I do not go hostile when confronted by an athiest about my beliefs, and I don't know many Christians who do. I don't see how you can point your finger at Christians when atheists can not only be closed-minded, but also pretty darn rude as well (I should know, I lived with 3 for 2 and a half years). I think you need to be a little less bigoted and realise that not everyone's the same, and that both sides have flaws. Side: No
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