Are Jews white people??
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Uhhh, no
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Of course, they are
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To determine if Jews are "white people." You must understand what "whiteness" is. This is NOT a skin color concept. But a concept of identity. Whiteness has always been subjective, and a nationalistic group think identity. Italians and Irish were once considered non-white. The notion of whiteness is based in "othering." The notion that some folks are better than others, and should be recognized as such. Supremacy. This is better explained in discussing what fascism is, and how it functions as a world view in a group. Fascism is an ultra-nationalistic far-right world view. Roger Griffin suggests that fascism tends to sell itself with significant appeals to "national rebirth." Demagoguery, ala appeals to people's prejudices is a heavy aspect of fascist propaganda. The world view itself models as an absolutist idea of pyramidal hierarchy (hence far-right). Where the top of said hierarchy should only belong to the ultra-nationalistic group identitarians. The biggest problem is that fascists tend to expand and contract that identity as it fits their powerbase. If you find yourself with a much bigger opposition of "brown and black people" then you might consider appealing to those with skin color that is less so, as you see yourself needing greater numbers against. Suddenly Italian and Irish are considered "White." Whiteness is not a measure of skin color, but a measure of a specific fascistic identity. --- And so, with context, we might be able to determine if Jews are white. The answer is likely not one or the other, but that some will identify and group themselves with the "white identity," while others would not. Having been integrated in those white societies for so long, it is inevitable that some would find themselves within it. The question isn't a yes or no, but "how many!?" How many Jews in the US support the narratives of white nationalists? Republicans appeal directly to those groups, and their supportive media is extremely sympathetic to the white nationalist platforms. How many Jews voted for Trump? The answer is not ZERO. There is a net positive number of Jews who believe the white identity politics and have supported that world view. But it is certainly not all of them. It's complicated... Side: Uhhh, no
Speaking as a Jew, I don't "identify" with white people - not in my ethnicity nor my color.. Hello again, ex: Let me delve a little further... As a child of the holocaust, whether fair or not, I distinguish between people who DID it, from the people who DIDN'T. White people did it.. Black people didn't. Asian people didn't. When I first meet a white person, I wonder if they're a hater. I don't wonder that when I meet a black person or an Asian.. I was business partners for 30 years with a guy. I thought he was my buddy. But, when the partnership ended, the truth came out. He hated Jews all along excon Side: Uhhh, no
'Whatever your ethnicity may be, in this life you're on a journey as an individual to discover who and what you are as a person and what you feel about yourself''. Group identity in many cases cannot be avoided, but to slavishly clamber to be associated with a particular sect or group of ideologues graphically illustrates a lack of distinctive individuality and a pronounced inferiority complex. Once you've hidden yourself in the ranks of the mindless sheepeople your personal opinion is of no consequence as what you think is nothing more than the uniform orthodoxy of The Group. Side: Uhhh, no
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Firstly I find it peculiar that as a Jew you're asking those who are mainly non-Jewish whether your ethnicity is classified as white. Secondly, the Jews are a clever, innovative, industrious people and the color of their skin doesn't add to or detract from this fact. My understanding is that Judaism is a religion and as such, anyone of any skin tone could be be Jewish. Side: Of course, they are
My understanding is that Judaism is a religion and as such, anyone of any skin tone could be be Jewish. Hello Bongo boy: As with other things, you misunderstand everything. Of course, anyone can be a Jew. It's a very welcoming religion.. Yet, there are STILL ethnic Jews such as myself.. You HAVE seen my DNA test, no? Well here goes. excon Side: Uhhh, no
The other peculiar element in your apparent obsession with being accepted as being Jewish is, why in hell do you feel anyone could give a tinker's damn about your ethnic or cultural grouping? Whilst I have replied to your bizarre blustering I am also aware that the origins of your ethnicity cannot be regarded in any way as acceptable material for a meaningful discussion. Side: Of course, they are
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anyone can be a Jew. It's a very welcoming religion. It's true. My friends wanted me to convert. I was dubious at first that they would have me since they were the "white" variety of Jews but they assured me, they let Sammy Davis Junior join, so... Anyways, in the end I didn't join because there was this issue about an operation and then the whole deal fell through. ;) Side: Uhhh, no
Hi Bongo 1, 2, & 3. It's not that you're hurt due to what I stated about your ridiculous posts of which this was a prime example, but more to do with your cringing embarrassment that they're true. No more points coming from me on this nonsensical thread. Side: Of course, they are
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Noah had three sons which later on became the three main races. Shem became the white race, Ham the black race, and Japheth the brown/yellow race. By following the descendants, Abraham was a descendant of Shem so he was white, Issac was white and Jacob was white, all of them married with women of their same family. The children of Jacob were also white people, and Judah -the tribe from whom Jews come from- was a white guy. Side: Of course, they are
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