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All Sects Just Catholicism
Debate Score:50
Arguments:32
Total Votes:53
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Are all sects of Christianity corrupt, or just Catholicism?

I honestly don't know. I mean, throughout history, Catholics have been selling passage to heaven and shit like that. They also say don't have sex, but if you have had sex then just pray and G-d will forgive you. Well they are so freaking contradicting that it pisses me off! But I don't know anything about all the other sects of Christianity.

All Sects

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Just Catholicism

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3 points

They all say don't have sex... but if you do just pray,

the same for killing, raping, pedophilia, not using your turn signal when you see I could have gone had I known you were planning on turning, etc.

But corruption implies some overall scheme throughout the organization, most Protestants avoid the overall corruption as they are segmented, not that it doesn't exist though, just that it cannot exist on a global scale as it does with Catholicism.

At any rate, televangelists are about the biggest scam since we traded malaria ridden rugs for... pretty much the US.

Side: All Sects
JakeJ(3255) Disputed
1 point

What about the Mormons?

We don't say "don't have sex". We say get married, then have sex. Well actually, we don't tell people to do anything. That doesn't really make sense.

We say that we know how you can be happy and show people how. We can't (or think we can) force people to do anything. If you want to go have sex whenever with whoever you are free to do so, but you can't be a member of our church. So we don't limit anyones freedom.

We are pro self discipline so many people accuse us of saying: "you can't have fun!". That's not true.

Side: a lot of sects
iamdavidh(4856) Disputed
1 point

The don't have sex before marriage was assumed, and in direct response to the description. And as little as I do know about Mormons, I'm almost positive praying for forgiveness when you mess up is part of it. Could be wrong. It hardly matters though, as the general point of my comment was that the points made in the description were not exclusive to Catholics, and are indeed practiced by just about every type of Christian out there.

fyi, just about every western religions says We say that we know how you can be happy and show people how. We can't (or think we can) force people to do anything. If you want to go have sex whenever with whoever you are free to do so, but you can't be a member of our church. So we don't limit anyones freedom.

Of course religions doesn't force anyone to do anything, yours or anyone else's... unless you live in the middle east somewhere.

And of course every religion says "you can be happy, here's how" which is why the pews are littered with ex-cons, drug addicts, and post-menopausal old ladies.

Preying on the week has been a cornerstone of every religion in history.

But yours is no different in general than the other sects of Christianity in that way.

The main differences, why I think Catholicism is the subject of this debate:

1. Not allowing the leaders of church's to marry tends to attract people who don't want to get married anyway, many of which happen to be pedophiles. Other Christian faiths don't have that problem so there is less of that type of corruption.

2. It's by far the richest and most organized Church in the world. So when there is corruption, it's a whole lot bigger.

But there's plenty of corruption in the Mormon church as well Jake. Just a few months ago one of the Mormon polygamist cults was busted, and that seems to happen every couple years or so.

Side: All Sects
3 points

I'm not gonna say all sects. I mean, surely the Vatican is corrupt in many ways, and we do see those guys on TV saying if you make this guy a millionaire God will let you into Heaven.

But it's not JUST Catholicism. The way I see it, though, many sects of Christianity are not corrupt. They are for spiritual purposes.

Side: More than Catholicism
3 points

The down voting of this is exact proof on how certain people Cerin are whiny little faggots who can't seem to understand when they're wrong.

Side: All Sects
2 points

There is a certain level of corruption that is possible for any religion. I won't say that every sect of Christianity is corrupt, but I will say that there is definitely corruption in more than just Catholicism.

Side: More than Catholicism
2 points

yes,Catholicism is corrupt...but not only catholicism,there are more like...opus dei???

Side: All Sects
2 points

All sects are corrupt by definition. Because religion is corrupt by definition: we know there's a God, we know his name, we know what he wants you to do, this is how to please him, do this! It is written! Say this when this happens, give us this and the 'lord' will be much pleased with you. Above is humanities biggest con; humanities greatest recipe of corruption; humanities oldest fallacy.

Side: All Sects
2 points

I will just say the world could be a much better place without religion.

Side: All Sects
2 points

DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY CHRISTIANS SECTS OR SUBGROUPS EXISTS?

IN ACCORDANCE TO WIKIPEDIA 38,000 CLICK ON THE FOLLOWING LINK IF U THINK I'M LYING 2U.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_denominations

HOW DO YOU WHICH ONE IS THE MOST TRUTHFUL WHEN EACH OF THE 38,000 IS PROCLAIMING 2B THE ONE.

CHRISTIANITY IS NOT A SOLUTION TO THE WORLDS PROBLEM BUT IT VICE VERSA.

FORMER CHRISTIAN YOUTH MINISTER FINDS ISLAM TO BE THE SOLUTION TO CHRISTIANITY
Side: All Sects
2 points

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Side: All Sects
2 points

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Side: All Sects
1 point

you're all just assuming that Catholics are evil. If we're all so against sex, wouldn't that be strangely like wanting no reproduction whatsoever and wishing for the world to end? Catholics believe and doing good for others and praying often. If you have a problem with that, I suggest you get serious help.

Side: Not all sects and not catholicism

They are not "sects", they are denominations.

All of them are corrupt.

Side: All Sects
1 point

I've meet several christians that are just as extreme as the catholics. In the end, it's all Bullshit, and it's bad for ya.

Side: All Sects
1 point

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Side: All Sects

Corruption exists in all Churches; not just the Catholic Church.

Side: All Sects
0 points

Even though there has never truly been a 'scientific' survey to prove it, common sense clearly indicates, that for at least the past two thousand years, Christianity has truly been the least hypocritical, the least self-opportunistic, the least corrupt out of the all the other religions. Literally hundreds of different exotic and exciting religious sects were freely available during the pre-Christian era of the Greco-Roman Empire. In fact, numerous historians have pointed out that the success of early Christianity was mainly due to the surprising love and affection exhibited by Church members towards anyone who needed a helping held or someone to talk to about the spiritual issues that bothered them. Christian love melted the heart of many a Pagan man or woman eventually reaching into the wealthier, upper class segments of Roman society, thus helping this new Jewish-based movement in its struggle to be legalized.This finally happened after the year 313 under Emperor Constantine, the first Emperor to become Christian.

People are not stupid. Christianity has lasted for nearly 2,000 years because of it enduring ability to avoid nepotism and corruption. It's miraculous ability to reform and reorganize itself. The very premise of this argument isn't just false. The assertion that Christianity is corrupt, meaning that compared to the other modern institutions, the Church just doesn't stand up to scrutiny is nothing, but the ignorant, foolish claim of a barely-educated, snot-nosed imbecile commonly known as Yankee Doodle. Whoever created this argument is a liar and they know it.

Side: All Sects
1 point

Well do all Catholics piss you off? Or just a few? Because your description made it seem like you just don't like Catholics because of the history of the religion. And the cases you stated are not extremely common. (except the selling of indulgences... in the middle ages).

Other than that, I have nothing to say because I don't know which sects are corrupt, but I felt that your description hurt my feelings. I happen to be Catholic, but I wouldn't consider myself "corrupt" or anything. I believe in abstinence until marriage or at least true love, and guess what? I'm still a virgin and open about it!

Side: not an expert so no comment

NO! NO! NO! I am a Deciple of Christ Christian, and we don't judge. You could have raped people in the past, but as long as you wish to worship with us, participate in service, and repent, then we're fine with it.

Side: Just Catholicism
altarion(1955) Disputed
1 point

Alright. That in itself is a corruption of your religion. You argue that you must never do any of those things, then, just for the member fees, you tell people that have done those things you will be forgiven if you pray hard enough and donate enough money to the church.

Side: All Sects
mudkipz2(358) Disputed
1 point

NO! NO! NO! I am a Deciple of Christ Christian, and we don't judge. You could have raped people in the past, but as long as you wish to worship with us, participate in service, and repent, then we're fine with it.

ROFL. that reminded me of the big catholic brain wash thing obama was attacked for. why? well because hes symbol is obama.

Side: All Sects
1 point

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Side: Just Catholicism
1 point

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Side: Just Catholicism
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1 point

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Side: All Sects
1 point

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Side: Just Catholicism
1 point

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Side: Just Catholicism