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Are anti-depressants responsible for some mass shootings?

S.S.R.I.'s are prescribed to about 10% of Americans in order to suppress or elevate moods and emotions. Most notably for treating clinical depression. What other emotional responses are possible in some people? Suicide is listed as a possible side effect but not homicide.

https://www.naturalnews.com/039752_mass_shootings_psychiatric_drugs_antidepressants.html

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Guns have always been around in America, but not until recently has mass shootings become common. This is largely do to the corrupt pharmaceutical industry handing out mind harming substances like candy.

Eric and Dylan: paxil and other antidepressants

Elliot Rodgers: xanax

Side: Yup
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www.ssristories.com

This link points to a disturbing but fascinating database of the original printed news reports of suspected SSRI contributed violence. Butchering children, parents, friends and pets before occasionally setting a fire and committing suicide is recurrent. The question now is whether the pharmaceutical companies value profits over lives or evil acts are the intention by design.

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outlaw60(15501) Disputed
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Oh i see it has become a Big Pharma problem ! Do you Progressives lack anyone you can't blame ? LMMFAO

Side: Nope
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The evidence seems to support a strong correlation between crazed lone nuts murdering and these brain altering concoctions. In no way would I downplay the very real condition of depression, however experiencing the gamut of emotions including sadness is no doubt preferable to homicidal rage. Considering the ample evidence linking S.S.R.I.'s to murders warrants a reevaluation of depression treatment.

Side: Yup

You of course are correct. We see all the time how anti Depressants have caused suicide such as with Robin Williams, etc.

There is absolutely no reason why they might not cause violence acts with some people.

Think about it, if a drug can make you so unstable to want to kill yourself, that person could become capable of any act of killing.

Side: Yup
Mint_tea(4272) Disputed
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Wait a second. I remember reading that he had Lewy body dementia and that was the cause of it, where are you finding that it was his actual medication that caused it?

I have little doubt that some some medications alter a person's mood, to what extent really depends on the chemistry of the individual, it's pretty touch and go for doctor's and patients.

Side: Nope
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Considering the ample evidence linking S.S.R.I.'s to murders warrants a reevaluation of depression treatment.

I find it hilarious that you eagerly acknowledge "the ample evidence linking SSRIs to murders" and yet refuse to acknowledge the mountain of evidence linking guns to murders.

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JimFour7(108) Disputed
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I find it hysterical that you will not acknowledge the mountains of evidence linking murderers to murders. Or the correlation between water and drownings. Your logic is flawed. I failed to mention THE most necessary reason to have a armed citizenry....to oppose a tyranical threat to our democracy. Those poor bastards in Britain have no options.

Side: Yup
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No, people over here suffer the same sort of depression and use similar drugs but don't shoot people you know why ?

Because guns are illegal

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JimFour7(108) Disputed
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Regardless of the legality of firearms in your area my debate topic was asking if anti-depressants contribute to mass shootings. Knives and clubs kill pretty good.

My pistol is my most prized and respected possession.

You know why? Because if a drug addled lunatic with a knife threatened my life, I am much more comfortable in my marksmanship than knife fight skills.

Side: Yup
Dermot(5452) Disputed
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But anti depressants are not responsible are they access to guns are why we are talking about mass shootings.

I never heard of a mass killing with knives or clubs

You seem to live in a very violent society ever think of moving ?

Side: Nope
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Knives and clubs kill pretty good.

When you are six inches away from someone and they can't run away.

Idiot.

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cruzaders(341) Disputed
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Yeah guns are illegal so they use knifes, hammers and cars: since the beginning of the year there have been about 35 terrorism acts (attempts+ ones that succeded)in France alone and nearly none of them involved a gun heres a list:https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronologie desattentatsenFranceen2017

Side: Yup
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Yeah guns are illegal so they use knifes, hammers and cars

This is an indefensibly nonsensical argument because it can be applied to justify the legalisation of absolutely anything and everything. Well, if we don't give them tanks they are just going to shank each other with forks. Well, if we don't give everyone an attack helicopter they are just going to kill each other with cars. It is a complete fallacy because nobody actually believes the pretence it is made under: that banning guns would prevent all murders. That same false pretence is furthermore used to conclude that the best way of minimising murder is to give people better tools with which to commit murder.

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Dermot(5452) Disputed
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So can you imagine what the murder rate would be if they had guns ?

You've just deafeated your own argument ..... thank you 👌😊

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FromWithin(8239) Disputed
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No, they use Trucks, or knives, or whatever weapon is available.....................

Side: Yup
2 points

Hello Jim:

I dunno what causes people to shoot up the place.. It COULD be medication, or it COULD be that your regular un-medicated NUT wants guns, and we don't have a law that stops them..

excon

Side: Nope
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It stands to reason that a person suffering from the kinds of emotional disorders that mass shooters may suffer from would be on medication to try to address it. Correlation does not necessarily equal causation.

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JimFour7(108) Disputed
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Not necessarily, however having a clinically proven side effect of suicide certainly shows these drugs can induce violent behavior.

Side: Yup
Amarel(5070) Disputed
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True. But when someone experiences the kind of destructive emotions needed for mass shooters, and it’s out of the ordinary, they typically let people know. Often the mentally ill people who engage in mass violence are off their meds, and are prescribed meds for just that sort of thing.

Side: Nope